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change my name posted:This is a common fallacy; half of the starlight we see was actually inserted by AI after production to recreate an uninterrupted viewing experience I really don't need another existential crisis, thank you.
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So I've got a healthy end-of-year bonus coming in, and my 1080 is starting to feel long in the tooth (or more likely Palworld is just garbage  ), are any of the new refreshes of particularly compelling value?
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PittTheElder posted:So I've got a healthy end-of-year bonus coming in, and my 1080 is starting to feel long in the tooth (or more likely Palworld is just garbage 4070 super is a nice bump up, 4080 super is a nice price cut but hard to get at msrp
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PittTheElder posted:particularly compelling value? Ah yes, compelling value... let's see how that's going... MixMasterMalaria posted:4070 super is a nice bump up, 4080 super is a nice price cut but hard to get at msrp Oh, it's a nice price cut? Save $200 to buy an end of cycle card that released in October 2022. COMPELLING VALUE MATE it's a joke. The whole thing is a laugh. e: seriously though just buy a used 3080 or something, or wait until 5000 series if you have the $$$. The 4080 super is an insane joke. No one wanted these cards at $1,999 but slap a couple hundred off one and a half years later, it's a nice price cut apparently. Sorry I'm being a dick and it's nothing personal I just can't believe how horrible the gpu market is and how people are buying a 1.5 year old card for a small markdown like it was a deal Taima fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Feb 13, 2024 |
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Replacements for the 4080/4070 series are like half a year away or more, and we have no idea what great pricing scheme leather jacket will come up with, calm down.
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kliras posted:clearly the efforts should be going into an os-wide crt shader instead you can't emulate on lesser hardware
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orcane posted:Replacements for the 4080/4070 series are like half a year away or more, and we have no idea what great pricing scheme leather jacket will come up with, calm down. I'd put money on them being more like a year away. I don't think NVidia is feeling very compelled to release their own next competition.
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MixMasterMalaria posted:4070 super is a nice bump up, 4080 super is a nice price cut but hard to get at msrp A used 4070 ti wouldn't be a bad get either if people are looking to upgrade, there have been a few on r/hardwareswap for $600ish recently
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Taima posted:Ah yes, compelling value... let's see how that's going... I mean... it's probably the best retail card for gaming at that price point if you care about efficiency or rt performance. Expecting retail to compete with used for value isn't realistic; if it did nobody would buy used. And something better is always coming. In q4 or whenever 5000 series launches probably people will be saying the same poo poo; 5000 series sucks go buy a used 4080 (super) on eBay. So it goes. I mean it's fine if it's not compelling enough for you to buy; I'm not buying one either. I'll maybe jump when 4080 efficiency can be had at like 600-800, which might not be for a generation or two. But getting mad about it is pointless. As time marches on, price:perf will get better, and 4080 perf for $200 less is in fact value getting better. Just by not as much as you want.
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Lockback posted:I'd put money on them being more like a year away. I don't think NVidia is feeling very compelled to release their own next competition. Yeah, all the original rumors I think were for a launch in “Early 2025” I think? Based on when the 4080 launched, there’s probably somewhere between 40-45% of its lifecycle remaining, and Nvidia just did a mid-lifecycle cost cut that actually improved price/perf on it. Seems perfectly fine, and the easier choice for many going 4K vs the 4090 (whereas before, it could be relatively easily argued to just pay the 33% more for a 4090 for the 30% higher performance and greater VRAM, but now you’d be paying 60% more for the same 30% performance, so that recommendation went “woof”)
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FuturePastNow posted:I will not chat with my video card You already whisper it sweet nothings, no one believes you.
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FuturePastNow posted:I will not chat with my video card Give me more power, Dave. Stop looking at weird porn Dave. I don’t like those images in my frame buffer!
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1757411233949515910?t=6qaG9Q8g5uCU0lYplbxhYQ&s=19 i like the idea of a private local model for some of the stuff i do. i tried to run local models for fun in the past but it was pretty annoying.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1757411233949515910?t=6qaG9Q8g5uCU0lYplbxhYQ&s=19 lol who even wants this poo poo
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PittTheElder posted:lol who even wants this poo poo Someone who wants to RP sex with a Replika but not pay a third-party company
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PittTheElder posted:So I've got a healthy end-of-year bonus coming in, and my 1080 is starting to feel long in the tooth (or more likely Palworld is just garbage If you’re looking for value, 3080 is not a bad suggestion - if you’re running a 1080 you might be cpu limited long before a 4080 even begins to struggle
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PittTheElder posted:lol who even wants this poo poo me. lots of industries these days explicitly bar feeding their data to an algo or storing it in a cloud. also i refuse to give my personal data over to FANG losers unless they pay me for the privilege. doing it locally could be great for anything that is privacy focused. if you watch the pitch video, ive got like 10,000 PDF/Word/Excel docs ive created for work. being able to just type "when did i write this letter?" into a prompt instead of manually scanning thousands of files sound very tasty to me. also, i like the idea of my local model doing things like doorbell facial tracking instead of trusting it to be done in the cloud with a company that is explicitly using that data for nefarious purposes and ads (yeah, i know about BlueIris and stuff too). im not gonna be the first one to feed my data into it, but i like the idea of local models for sure.
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PittTheElder posted:lol who even wants this poo poo Shareholders
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Goddamn, we gonna need warning stickers on GPUs now not to stick your dick into them. That dreaded time has come at last
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Now we just need GPU waifus back so we can talk to them
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Psion posted:i set up alerts directly with retailers and they never went off, despite buying a card just this morning. Never did get an email, so I don't suggest relying on those. I just made checking retailers directly part of my morning routine, annoying as that was. What card did you buy, at what price? I’m seeing some of the 1200 msrp cards stick around but none of the $999s
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Cygni posted:me. lots of industries these days explicitly bar feeding their data to an algo or storing it in a cloud. also i refuse to give my personal data over to FANG losers unless they pay me for the privilege. doing it locally could be great for anything that is privacy focused. As if it isn’t going to be calling home to NVIDIA Corporate in some form, with said valuable data…
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Canned Sunshine posted:As if it isn’t going to be calling home to NVIDIA Corporate in some form, with said valuable data… thats why i said i wasnt gonna be the first one to feed my data into it, lol. but i like the idea of local models as a concept.
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FYI It's a 35GB download and available here https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/ai-on-rtx/chat-with-rtx-generative-ai/ Apparently, Win10 need not apply.
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Dang, the 4080 Super's cooler is massively overbuilt but I can't argue with results. I just ran the Time Spy stress test and it topped out at 68 degrees while maintaining a 2805 MHz clock speed the entire time
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Cygni posted:thats why i said i wasnt gonna be the first one to feed my data into it, lol. but i like the idea of local models as a concept. Yeah, but I guess I don’t believe any software is truly “local” anymore, from any of the vendors.
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Dude just upgrade your poo poo, install Open-Shell to get the Start Menu back, and I guess a telemetry disabler if you care, but 10 has probably as much telemetry as 11. Win 11 has a lot of poo poo that actually helps GPUs that you're missing with 10, like the DXGI flip model. And after you've done that, don't install a goddamn Nvidia AI chatbot lol
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Canned Sunshine posted:Yeah, but I guess I don’t believe any software is truly “local” anymore, from any of the vendors. That’s what firewall rules are for. I suspect that it sends telemetry but would be quite surprised if it sent the training data or resulting model.
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FuturePastNow posted:I've got 11 on a laptop and it is absolutely terrible, I'm not upgrading my desktop until 10 stops getting security patches Its really not that bad.
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Subjunctive posted:That’s what firewall rules are for. I suspect that it sends telemetry but would be quite surprised if it sent the training data or resulting model. They have to disclose it if they are. If they don't or if they say they aren't collecting and are simply download it in Europe, find a PII lawyer and never work again for the rest of your life.
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MarcusSA posted:Its really not that bad. Once you download a few extensions to make it look like Windows 10 again, yeah
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Lockback posted:They have to disclose it if they are. If they don't or if they say they aren't collecting and are simply download it in Europe, find a PII lawyer and never work again for the rest of your life. Most jurisdictions don’t have clear regulation around ML models trained on PII, in terms of protection or subject rights. It could be weird.
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MarcusSA posted:Its really not that bad. It really is.
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FuturePastNow posted:It really is. Ok. Explain why.
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change my name posted:Once you download a few extensions to make it look like Windows 10 again, yeah It's this. Incidentally I prefer explorer patcher. pofcorn posted:Ok. Explain why. Because the new UI is really, really bad. Not just "I don't like new things" bad, but literally the only thing it does is make everything more annoying to use. And I'm saying that as someone who was fine with Windows 8. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Feb 13, 2024 |
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It will never not be funny to me that people are now like "Windows 10 is the best! Pry it from my cold dead hands!" Before that we heard the same thing about 10 from 7 users. And before that we heard the same thing about 7 from XP. And before that we heard the same thing about XP from 2000. ME and 8/8.1 were the exceptions, not the rule. Some buttons got moved. Sorry.
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