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15 | 3.71% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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stephenthinkpad posted:China dodged a huge bullet just around time when W and the deep state was setting up the condition to increase confrontation with China, 911 happened. In the year before 2001 there was the plane collide incident and increasingly more US spy planes flying right outside of the China airspace. when 9-11 happened, the teacher that wheeled the TV in so we could watch just in time for the second plane said, in front of like 30 intro to business high school freshman, 'i bet this was the chinese' it wasn't the first or last time someone said that until word got out that it was... Well.
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Feb 12, 2024 23:04
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Chinese 9/11 hijackers
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Feb 12, 2024 23:06
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:lots of "what ifs" are just that, but this one is a near truth. the us was looking for confrontation in 2000/2001 and everything about bush's foreign policy was about a pivot to asia. don't forget the "accidental" bombing of the chinese embassy They're still trying to build up a confrontation with China and getting sidetracked by Ukraine and I/P. There must be some people in the government that are so very loving mad things keep getting in the way of their dream war against China.
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Feb 12, 2024 23:08
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Command & Conquer Generals came out in 2003.
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Feb 12, 2024 23:08
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BULBASAUR posted:In this timeline it seems that the USSR had to fall in order for the PRC to rise Yeah one of the reason the US moved so many production jobs out of the country is that the elites understand Marx and wanted to get rid of the union jobs and suppress the working class. It just so happen that most of those jobs moved to China and made it a super manufacturing state. FF mentioned TRPF which is the profit angle, suppressing the working class is motivated by the political angle. Also most of the non union (IT) jobs got outsourced to India, I don't know how to explain this one.
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Feb 12, 2024 23:09
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Phigs posted:They're still trying to build up a confrontation with China and getting sidetracked by Ukraine and I/P. There must be some people in the government that are so very loving mad things keep getting in the way of their dream war against China. 75% or more of the recent NATO conference was talking about future wars with China, a country that does not border the Atlantic ocean
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Feb 12, 2024 23:09
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slave to my cravings posted:Chinese 9/11 hijackers (nick mullen) what if mohammad atta... was chinese
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Feb 12, 2024 23:11
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stephenthinkpad posted:Yeah one of the reason the US move some much production jobs out of the country is that the elites understand Marx and wanted to get rid of the union jobs and suppress the working class. It just so happen that most of those jobs moved to China and made it a super manufacturing state. profit angle and suppressing the white collar class. even without unions, the tendency of capitalism is to crush the the labor force.
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Feb 12, 2024 23:11
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lobster shirt posted:(nick mullen) what if mohammad atta... was chinese Osama bin Laden's CIA cover name was "Tim Osman"
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Feb 12, 2024 23:12
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Phigs posted:They're still trying to build up a confrontation with China and getting sidetracked by Ukraine and I/P. There must be some people in the government that are so very loving mad things keep getting in the way of their dream war against China. 911 > 08 Financial Crisis > (there was a brief naval confrontation in 2015) > Covid > Ukraine > IP All this time people like Mearsheimer were screaming in the background. There is still a possibility that Covid was a manmade virus and got unleashed in Wuhan by the US, I am not crazy but I must say I can't rule it out. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 23:17 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 23:14
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Unless someone has virus modification technology 30-40 years ahead of everyone else in the world and nobody knows about it you can be pretty sure that COVID was not created by humans from america or china or anywhere else. Doing it undetectable just isn't really a thing. Historical Materialism isn't the only science that matters! e: oh jeez i forgot the covid thread exists, abort abort abort Flournival Dixon has issued a correction as of 23:24 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 23:19
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Let's make this thread a covid thread too
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Feb 12, 2024 23:23
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my bony fealty posted:Let's make this thread a covid thread too
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Feb 12, 2024 23:25
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comedyblissoption posted:afaik chomsky [epstein confidant] is against us escalation in ukraine and even emphasized trump's lonesome opposition to it except for pol pot, chomsky loving loved pol pot lmao
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Feb 12, 2024 23:27
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Puppy Burner posted:except for pol pot, chomsky loving loved pol pot lmao so did the US state department must be a coincidence
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Feb 12, 2024 23:28
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bedpan posted:75% or more of the recent NATO conference was talking about future wars with China, a country that does not border the Atlantic ocean Lol defensive alliance preparing for war that none of the member countries even border
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Feb 12, 2024 23:28
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bedpan posted:so did the US state department 
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bedpan posted:so did the US state department white people are demon apes from hell, op
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Feb 12, 2024 23:30
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Realistically, the US' best window was when they still had their Cold War military equipment and manpower. Neoliberalism injected new life into them in the short term, for sure, and they were able to have their cake and eat it too for a while because enough of the stuff was left over - society wide you could say - beyond the point where it could not longer be replaced. The Matrix wasn't wrong by saying that 1999 was kind of the peak in terms of finance capital riding high while the consequences of deindustrialization were still mostly beneficial, in terms of the balance sheets, yet before the consequences came home to roost. Consider that the US was only able to produce 3 of the Seawolf class submarines out of a planned 29. In the 90's they still had tonnes of the Los Angeles class around, as well as the Sturgeon and Permit classes. That's kind of a big deal when we're talking about a naval war in the pacific. The Royal Navy was in rough shape in the 90's, but it was still recognizably a navy. Ditto the RCN, who still had the Iroquois class, St. Laurent class, Restigouche class etc. It's not just that we don't have this stuff anymore, the One Weird Trick to get rid of pesky mining, heavy industry, steel works, and shipyards and their union workforces, actually had real consequences and we can't replace any of it. e: and it's not a coincidence that the PLAN starts moving in the opposite direction at the same time and rate. Their military advances in quality and quantity are very obviously the result of the West making them the workshop of the world, giving them the tooling, experience, heavy industry and cash to build a major navy. In the 90's though, the PLAN was still a green water fleet, and Chinese shipbuilding and naval technology were alright, mostly licensed from the USSR, but not anywhere near the major western navies of the time on a quality or quantity basis. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 23:37 on Feb 12, 2024 |
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Feb 12, 2024 23:34
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I think about that line from The Matrix pretty often actually, even though I know the half dozen or so english speaking marxists in the world at the time had already made some pretty accurate called shots about how the 90s would be remembered before the movie came out. They obviously just used the date as a matter of convenience rather than based on marxist prediction of the future but they lucked into it pretty good. The end of western shipbuilding is also something I think about a lot since ansarallah started policing the red sea, simply because it is a wonderful and hilarious thing to think about.
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Feb 12, 2024 23:41
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Flournival Dixon posted:The end of western shipbuilding is also something I think about a lot since ansarallah started policing the red sea, simply because it is a wonderful and hilarious thing to think about. I like that it seamlessly coexists with that drivel about "Maritime Civilization" "The Atlantic World" etc etc
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Feb 12, 2024 23:42
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It has been depressing reading this thread lately. Without dwelling on the (numerous) mistakes of the past, optimistically*, what's the consensus on how long it will take for Ukraine to regain all territory it has lost? * Assuming Trump doesn't get reelected and NATO steps up its' game.
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Feb 12, 2024 23:50
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Officer Sandvich posted:It has been depressing reading this thread lately. Well optimistically Ukraine is fully reintegrated with Russia and all territory is regained through unification of the people and the state. It could happen in a few years best case scenario. Optimism... might not play out in reality on this one.
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Feb 12, 2024 23:52
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Frosted Flake posted:I like that it seamlessly coexists with that drivel about "Maritime Civilization" "The Atlantic World" etc etc They're so sure that rhetoric can replace ships. I think they really believe that if they say the right words enough times then global power will be restored to the (white) people that think of it as their inherent god given right.
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Feb 12, 2024 23:54
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stephenthinkpad posted:Also most of the non union (IT) jobs got outsourced to India, I don't know how to explain this one. Because despite what indian liberals say, the indian economy was beginning to grow faster by the mid 1980s with a focus on things like creating the physical infrastructure for tech jobs. When the indian economy was forced to open up by the mid 1990s there was preexisting infrastructure and the labor necessary to do computer touching.
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Feb 13, 2024 00:12
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-12/zelenskiy-plans-western-european-tour-to-lobby-for-ukraine-aid Zelenskiy Plans Western European Tour to Lobby for Ukraine Aid By Alex Wickham and Ania Nussbaum 13 February 2024 at 3:11 am SGT Volodymyr Zelenskiy is planning a tour of Western European capitals around this week’s Munich Security Conference, according to people with knowledge of the matter, as the Ukrainian president seeks military support amid the funding fight in Washington. Zelenskiy will probably visit Paris and Berlin as part of the trip, the people said, emphasizing that the plans still aren’t confirmed. The Ukrainian leader is expected to attend the annual conference in Munich, which runs Thursday to Sunday, according to the people.
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Feb 13, 2024 00:32
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slave to my cravings posted:Chinese 9/11 hijackers here's what mohamed atta would look like if he was black or chinese
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Feb 13, 2024 00:32
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Officer Sandvich posted:It has been depressing reading this thread lately. If Putin establishes a single oblast encompassing all of pre-war Ukraine it could happen in a year maybe KomradeX posted:Lol defensive alliance preparing for war that none of the member countries even border The best defense is a good offense !!!
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Feb 13, 2024 00:35
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Lostconfused posted:Command & Conquer Generals came out in 2003. C&C Renegades one of the best online games ever.
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https://x.com/starsandstripes/status/1757152597712970123?s=20
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Feb 13, 2024 00:57
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lmao the smear is that he was trained under a functional military power i guess shame on the post-stalin soviets for producing a man who would fight for nazis, even if it is 30+ years after the end of the socialist state anways I try to avoid credulously posting nonsense i see on twitter as if it means something but i'm sleep deprived and confused, what the hell is this about : https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/1756917812801806406 what the gently caress is a 30km long train supposed to even be, is any of this real, his bio just makes it seem like a guy who liked to independently investigate goofy Oryx poo poo and post about how wrong it was
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Feb 13, 2024 01:09
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i believe in the 30km long train
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Feb 13, 2024 01:10
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i want the train to be as long as the border of the state itself all states should be able to build a train that long, in a continuous circuit able to move anything and anyone anywhere else along the edge of the state just to show the power of your own productive force to humanity and god and whoever else may see
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Feb 13, 2024 01:12
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Flournival Dixon posted:lmao the smear is that he was trained under a functional military power i guess the train is 100% real, I've talked to people that have seen it as for what it is for? wouldn't you like to know  **apparently it was first observed being assembled at some point back in the early fall of 2023. Pro Ukrainian twitter accounts seem to think that it's purpose was to act as an obstruction to some sort of Ukrainian attack through the area south of Donetsk. I guess an immobile series of train cars stretching over the horizon would be impossible for armored vehicles to circumvent as Ukraine doesn't have anything that could displace it. Starsfan has issued a correction as of 01:22 on Feb 13, 2024 |
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Feb 13, 2024 01:19
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Flournival Dixon posted:what the gently caress is a 30km long train supposed to even be, is any of this real, his bio just makes it seem like a guy who liked to independently investigate goofy Oryx poo poo and post about how wrong it was https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-11-2024 Russian forces appear to have constructed a 30-kilometer-long barrier dubbed the “tsar train” in occupied Donetsk Oblast, possibly to serve as a defensive line against future Ukrainian assaults. Satellite imagery dated May 10, 2023, and February 6 and 10, 2024 shows that Russian forces constructed a long line of train cars stretching from occupied Olenivka (south of Donetsk City) to Volnovakha (southeast of Vuhledar and north of Mariupol) over the past nine months.[5] A Ukrainian source reported on February 11 that Russian forces have assembled more than 2,100 freight cars into a 30-kilometer-long train.[6] The source reported that Russian forces began assembling the train in July 2023 and suggested that Russian forces intend to use the train as a defensive line against future Ukrainian assaults.[7] The railway line between Olenivka and Volnovakha is roughly six kilometers from ISW’s current assessed frontline southeast of Novomykhailivka at its closest point and is in an area of the front that was relatively inactive when Russian forces reportedly began construction.[8] Russian forces have recently made marginal territorial gains in this area.[9] The Russians could have assembled the train for other purposes as well.
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Feb 13, 2024 01:21
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bedpan posted:Mobilization was supposed to be the turning point to his destruction, not the turning point to Ukraine's destruction! Not fair! The oracle Boris Johnson tells Zelensky: If you reject Minsk 2, a powerful slavic nation will be destroyed!
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Feb 13, 2024 01:26
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Officer Sandvich posted:It has been depressing reading this thread lately. Trying really hard to imagine the kind of westerner who still needs slava vibes or they get sadbrained
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Feb 13, 2024 01:28
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The Star Fox 64 train is real
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fizziester posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-12/zelenskiy-plans-western-european-tour-to-lobby-for-ukraine-aid Last time he did this it ended with that picture of him going goblin mode while all the other euro leaders had their backs on him
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https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/12/kaliningrad-governor-blames-immanuel-kant-for-ukraine-war-a84046 Kaliningrad Governor Blames Immanuel Kant for Ukraine War quote:
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