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AndrewP posted:A good chunk of my playtime with this game has been messing around with the lighting, it feels like a full generation ahead. I don’t know how they pulled off ray traced GI at 60fps on this generation while nobody else can seemingly even sniff it My hunch is, on top of some talented programmers who did some custom stuff, their engine might only do the kind of lighting that would affect the game's narrower types of visuals, one that wouldn't look right being used to run the lighting in Cyberpunk's Night City or anything else that isn't a post-apocalyptic winter hellscape.
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Raytraced GI can be accumulated over many frames so there's no real need for it to have a big impact on framerate. The tradeoff is that the bounced lighting can lag behind a few frames (you can see it if you turn on a light in a pitch dark room and the light "floods in" over a few frames before stabilizing). The biggest advantage Metro has that few other games do is that the enhanced edition is truly next-gen only and requires raytracing, even on PC, which means they could completely redo the game's diffuse lighting to be entirely based on RTGI, instead of just being an additional pass that happens on top of the rasterized light pipeline. And yeah, being largely lit by natural light and smaller localized light-sources definitely makes a difference.
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webmeister posted:Pretty sure everyone who can will buy GTA VI on console and then again a year later when it comes out for pc Surely the potential market for a PC port is actually larger than for Xbox, if not at this point then definitely in a year. T2's commitment to this bit is just kind of silly at this point.
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Ah yes, the bit of developing your extremely ambitious game for an exact set of hardware and then only when you’ve got that development complete do you bother with sorting out all the various PC compatibility issues. Hilarious bit. Those guys at Rockstar are real jokesters.
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they shouldnt put it out on pc at all
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Quantum of Phallus posted:they shouldnt put it out on pc at all They should exclusively put it out on Mac.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:they shouldnt put it out on pc at all
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Can't wait to play that on Switch
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Xbox stays winning. Btw what kinda suicide pact we making for the future of Xbox announcement?
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Their pop culture DLC has been really great. I am very curious to see the flight characteristics they've made up for that thing... Also, does Arrakis have different gravity than earth?
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i love how the announcement is going to be in a podcast.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:i love how the announcement is going to be in a podcast. Probably because there's no actual announcement.
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"We're committed to the Xbox brand while also exploring the option of releasing some of our games on more platforms to ensure that everyone can experience the joy of playing our games. That initiative starts today where our award winning Tango Gameworks developed titled Hi-Fi Rush is now available for players on Nintendo Switch and Sony Playstation. Goodbye"
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They're annoucing that nintendo and sony have hired them to make it so their cloud saves dont suck rear end
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:Their pop culture DLC has been really great. The book says "nine-tenths of a G", but in-setting Earth is a distant memory so who knows if a "G" in Dune is Earth gravity.
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American McGay posted:"We're committed to the Xbox brand while also exploring the option of releasing some of our games on more platforms to ensure that everyone can experience the joy of playing our games. That initiative starts today where our award winning Tango Gameworks developed titled Hi-Fi Rush is now available for players on Nintendo Switch and Sony Playstation. Goodbye" Definitely, but gamers are gonna gamer and the Xbox brand will crater even if that's all that's announced. It's too late to save Timdog.
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American McGay posted:"We're committed to the Xbox brand while also exploring the option of releasing some of our games on more platforms to ensure that everyone can experience the joy of playing our games. That initiative starts today where our award winning Tango Gameworks developed titled Hi-Fi Rush is now available for players on Nintendo Switch and Sony Playstation. Goodbye"
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People would probably freak out more if you said their gamer score had been changed to have a 3 or a 7 at the end.
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They will absolutely say games releasing on other platforms will be on a case by case basis. Just like how Xbox will only put games on PC on a case by case basis.
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MorningMoon posted:They will absolutely say games releasing on other platforms will be on a case by case basis. Just like how Xbox will only put games on PC on a case by case basis. Those cases of Microsoft releasing games on PC being "every time", of course, they just haven't retroactively released a few from the early Xbox One days.
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MorningMoon posted:They will absolutely say games releasing on other platforms will be on a case by case basis. Just like how Xbox will only put games on PC on a case by case basis.
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Snacksmaniac posted:They're annoucing that nintendo and sony have hired them to make it so their cloud saves dont suck rear end I'd do a standing ovation if that was the case
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American McGay posted:"We're committed to the Xbox brand while also exploring the option of releasing some of our games on more platforms to ensure that everyone can experience the joy of playing our games. That initiative starts today where our award winning Tango Gameworks developed titled Hi-Fi Rush is now available for players on Nintendo Switch and Sony Playstation. Goodbye" Timdog died for this??
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American McGay posted:Ah yes, the bit of developing your extremely ambitious game for an exact set of hardware and then only when you’ve got that development complete do you bother with sorting out all the various PC compatibility issues. They have unlimited money and everyone else seems to manage to do it with less.
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ColdPie posted:Timdog died for this?? Build your house on sand and get owned - Jesus
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SCheeseman posted:They have unlimited money and everyone else seems to manage to do it with less. I think it's not so much a money thing as it is a code/game complexity thing, they probably have a ridiculous pre-launch testing timeline as-is with only three major hardware variations to worry about, and opening up to PC increases that considerably in a way that might not be workable for their workflow/anticipated launch timeline. The lead time also gives them a chance to see what issues crop up at launch and incorporate those into PC version changes in a more controlled way since it's a year or two off or whatever. Also makes things a lot harder to datamine which Rockstar's had enough issues with lately with all the leaks.
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Rockstar's PC ports are always dogshit at launch so I dunno what good the year delay does. I bought GTA4 on PC at launch and everything was invisible no matter what I did. I couldn't see streets or buildings, just a bunch of floating cars. I never ended up playing it until like 8 years later. And on top of that the Social Club counted as playtime for Steam so GTA4 is still one of my top played games ever which irrationally annoys the poo poo out of me.
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Red Dead 2 was alright
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American McGay posted:People would probably freak out more if you said their gamer score had been changed to have a 3 or a 7 at the end. There's been some dark jokes in this thread but you've taken it too far here
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Volte posted:Rockstar's PC ports are always dogshit at launch so I dunno what good the year delay does. I bought GTA4 on PC at launch and everything was invisible no matter what I did. I couldn't see streets or buildings, just a bunch of floating cars. I never ended up playing it until like 8 years later.
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hatty posted:Red Dead 2 was alright https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/13/20963263/red-dead-redemption-2-pc-problems-rockstar-games-apology-fix-nvidia
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I had no issues with Red Dead 2, and GTAV on PC when they released.
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Volte posted:Rockstar's PC ports are always dogshit at launch so I dunno what good the year delay does. I bought GTA4 on PC at launch and everything was invisible no matter what I did. I couldn't see streets or buildings, just a bunch of floating cars. I never ended up playing it until like 8 years later. And on top of that the Social Club counted as playtime for Steam so GTA4 is still one of my top played games ever which irrationally annoys the poo poo out of me. GTA4 was extremely ambitious on PC, you kind of needed a quad core CPU at a time when even dual-core CPUs were widely seen as the more reasonable purchase. It was one of those peculiarities because the 360 had three cores and the PS3's core situation is a weirdly ambitious one (something like 7 usable cores but they're split by type of task), but PCs typically only had single or dual core machines (quad cores were available but very expensive and largely not beneficial for PC gaming). It's also allegedly why the first Dead Rising didn't get a PC port until much later, apparently the original 360 game was very heavily core-reliant, like one core was dedicated to the large amount of zombie AI and stuff like that.
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The only games pc should have are minesweeper and solitaire. Anything more is wasted on those dweebs.
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If loving Neptunia is the first franchise to bail I swear to god
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