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Doltos posted:Already on it baby This is the content I crave.
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Olu catching strays
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Feb 13, 2024 17:46
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The line between MHJ and Nabers is there... But it is fragile.
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Feb 13, 2024 17:54
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Doltos posted:Already on it baby This is me being shocked that Doltos isn't 55 years old with a voice engraveled by decades of cigar smoke
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Feb 13, 2024 17:59
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Yeah I'll confess that I did a double take the first time I saw a Doltos stream and he was like 20 years younger than I expected 
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Feb 13, 2024 18:13
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Dexo posted:I would take JJ in the Late First if I was a team that wanted him even if I had him as a second round grade He's gonna go top 15. Maybe top 10.
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Feb 13, 2024 18:15
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IcePhoenix posted:He's gonna go top 15. Maybe top 10. please god let him go top 10 makes it more likely Odunze/Nabers falls to 9
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Feb 13, 2024 18:18
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Dexo posted:please god let him go top 10 makes it more likely Odunze/Nabers falls to 9 I assume it would be Odunze since I think just about every mock I've seen in the last week has some combination of Caleb/Maye/Daniels/MHJ/Nabers as the top five (usually in that order but there are some curveballs)
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Feb 13, 2024 18:35
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I really like Trey Benson he's got such quick burst and just runs north. Really good receiving threat out of the backfield too. It's just the injury history that's scary.
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Feb 14, 2024 01:14
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Thinking about thicc lineman E: offensive and defensive
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Feb 14, 2024 01:38
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Thinking about thicc lineman Tyler Guyton
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Feb 14, 2024 01:41
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I want DeJean. Give me the Cornfed, sneaky athlete.
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Feb 14, 2024 01:43
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My updated list of Guys: Khristian Boyd Malik Washington Javon Baker Isaiah Davis
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Feb 14, 2024 02:09
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Cooper DeJean has all the talent in the world but he's just so inconsistent. He displays all this ability in the run game and then just completely takes plays off or doesn't fight for the tackle at all. He's got all this amazing agility at times but then he just freezes his hips and lets guys break on him constantly. Someone needs to teach him effort.
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Feb 14, 2024 05:10
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Doltos posted:I really like Trey Benson he's got such quick burst and just runs north. Really good receiving threat out of the backfield too. It's just the injury history that's scary. same. I love a few of the Florida State guys. I've already talked about Bell. Benson and Renardo Green both stand out a lot when I watch them. The LSU game is good watching for Green, it's not a perfect game from him but he mostly plasters Nabers and Brian Thomas Jr. I like Verse well enough. Not as high on the WR's or Fiske though. Fiske has a motor that's always going and he's a constant annoyance to the OL but that rarely seems to convert to anything meaningful. Speaking of, Brian Thomas Jr has some real inconsistent effort. He's capable of some impressive stuff. Rare ability for a guy his size at breaking routes and obvious top end speed. He also runs lazy routes and throws the barest token of blocks when he doesn't think the ball is coming his way. Even when he is involved in the play his blocking is often just kinda standing near a guy and hoping for the best. Sometimes he's out there blocking his rear end off or hustling 60 yards down the field. He's got it in him, but for a guy that needs to add of subtlety to his game still I'm kinda off him.
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Feb 14, 2024 14:04
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Doltos posted:Cooper DeJean has all the talent in the world but he's just so inconsistent. He displays all this ability in the run game and then just completely takes plays off or doesn't fight for the tackle at all. He's got all this amazing agility at times but then he just freezes his hips and lets guys break on him constantly. Someone needs to teach him effort. I’m not 100% sold on it being effort over him just not knowing how to read in man-match consistently. Ever since Parker moved them to base quarters and man-match, they’ve been a factory for long, slower corners that essentially are guaranteed to make nfl rosters as safeties in the worst case since they drop and break on most downs. Dejean is like dropping a guy who plays like Deangelo Hall into that where he loves to gamble and try to guess as opposed to just reacting in the structure. He’s too dynamic to coverage to not have out there since he’s a legitimate scoring threat, but you consistently have to shade your other DBs towards preparing for him to freelance. Nwankpa on that defense is a future star at safety too—consistently bailed out Dejean and others on the bad plays which is really hard to do in quarters when an outside corner isn’t supposed to have help in exchange for having a narrower zone to have to carry upfield.
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TheGreyGhost posted:I’m not 100% sold on it being effort over him just not knowing how to read in man-match consistently. Ever since Parker moved them to base quarters and man-match, they’ve been a factory for long, slower corners that essentially are guaranteed to make nfl rosters as safeties in the worst case since they drop and break on most downs. Dejean is like dropping a guy who plays like Deangelo Hall into that where he loves to gamble and try to guess as opposed to just reacting in the structure. He’s too dynamic to coverage to not have out there since he’s a legitimate scoring threat, but you consistently have to shade your other DBs towards preparing for him to freelance. Yeah they also have a guy named Jermari Harris who stands out as a way better tackler but he's old and bad injury history. There are way better tacklers across the board on that defense that actually get up into the wash and make a play while DeJean sits and watches. I don't disagree with the DeAngelo Hall comp and remember also being frustrated with how Hall would handle routes that broke away from him. Ball hawks that keep their body open to the play are great but it kills them on routes that they should be easily picking up.
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Feb 14, 2024 17:38
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With such a glut of talent from the big schools coming out at WR, are there any smaller school or under the radar guys coming out this year who'll surprise people after falling below where they normally would?
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Feb 14, 2024 23:35
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BlindSite posted:With such a glut of talent from the big schools coming out at WR, are there any smaller school or under the radar guys coming out this year who'll surprise people after falling below where they normally would? Holy Cross is the only one I watched for C.J. Hanson and Jalen Coker. Coker is a good high pointer and big body threat plus he looks pretty athletic and C.J. Hanson is a zone blocking guard that looks solid too. There's some decent angles of them in the Boston College game but everything else is bad D2 sideline angle.
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Feb 15, 2024 00:08
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Who are the cornerback prospects who are most likely going on Day 2? I have a feeling that the Giants will be looking to add to the secondary given that Adoree’ Jackson will be leaving in free agency. No clue as to what Shane Bowen will want in a CB but it would nice to know Day 2 OLB and edge players would also be nice to know about. I appreciate the tape watchers in this thread
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https://x.com/TheDestinAdams/status/1757868993900089413
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Propaganda: North Korea tier
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Feb 15, 2024 02:52
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BlindSite posted:With such a glut of talent from the big schools coming out at WR, are there any smaller school or under the radar guys coming out this year who'll surprise people after falling below where they normally would? Malik Washington
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does anyone else remember when, around the same time before the draft as now, a bunch of teams supposedly were super high on Brett Smith from Wyoming
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Feb 15, 2024 04:19
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Calling smoke screen
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I still just don't see JJ going before the 3rd. Also thanks for the recs for the small school guys to look into.
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Feb 15, 2024 05:03
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What are your personal weird rules of thumb for scouting/the draft? I've been really into basketball prospect scouting and I have a handful of principles that are sacred to me, but most don't know about or just don't care about them. Do you guys have any personal tests you use, or weirdly specific lines you won't cross?
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BlindSite posted:I still just don't see JJ going before the 3rd. I would be shocked if JJ didn't go in the 1st round. Like Legitimately shocked. I think the top 10 thing is blowing smoke obviously, maybe like the Chargers/Falcons/Bears trying to bait teams into trading up for him or something dumb. But I do see some team taking him if he does fall into the 20s.
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Dexo posted:I would be shocked if JJ didn't go in the 1st round. I could see him going in the first round whether he's deserving of it or not, but I think if he slips past 20 he's slipping to day 2. The Steelers are pretty much the last team in the order who could draft him without creating major friction in the locker room - even teams looking to trade up for him can probably afford to wait for the second round.
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Black Lighter posted:I could see him going in the first round whether he's deserving of it or not, but I think if he slips past 20 he's slipping to day 2. The Steelers are pretty much the last team in the order who could draft him without creating major friction in the locker room - even teams looking to trade up for him can probably afford to wait for the second round. JJ is someone who if I was willing to take him in the early parts of Day 2, I would try to trade up into Day 1 to take him, since I'd plan on burning one year, and would want the 5th year option. Also you could probably try and finesse a trade back and pick him if it does look like he's falling that far. I mean Rams at 19 make a decent amount of sense. Arizona if I squint, could probably get away with it. Although they have so many other needs I wouldn't do it Seahawks perhaps. Buccaneers maybe if something weird happens with Baker. Pending Free Agency, or other aggressive trades I really don't see him falling past the Vikings/Saints/Oakland/Broncos Dexo fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Feb 15, 2024 |
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Dexo posted:JJ is someone who if I was willing to take him in the early parts of Day 2, I would try to trade up into Day 1 to take him, since I'd plan on burning one year, and would want the 5th year option. QBs don’t go in the second half of the 1st round all that often and when they do they’re pretty invariably a bad pick. I think most teams prefer to take a flyer on a guy in round 2 or 3 once they’ve already missed out on the top tier prospects. Teams are desperate but 2022 showed that they won’t take a guy in the first just to take a guy, they have to actually like their tape and see 1st round value. I think the relatively poor performance of the 2021 class is also going to carry weight here. Who is lining up to take the next Mac Jones?
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0.000001% chance that Arizona or LA (Rams) draft JJ. Arizona has Kyler who is very good and also young-ish. They have extra draft capital and an opportunity to get one of the best wr prospects in recent history. They are in a prime position to really boost their offensive talent in one offseason. Rams made the playoffs with a roster full of UDFAs and late rounders. Matt Stafford still has it. Matt was playing at an elite level and his only issue is health. Their main offensive issue is offensive line and this draft is chock full of talent. Both teams have great qbs, both teams have decent draft capital, and both teams are expected to have a lot of free agency cap space. JJ ain’t going to either of them.
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I could maybe yeah see the Bucs taking JJ. Maybe.
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Two of the last 3 were hits, you've got Pickett in '22, then Love in '20 and Lamar in '18. If we expand the cutoff to be unkind to ourselves, you add in Mac Jones and Dwayne Haskins as 15th picks in '21 and '19 though. However before that it's a true wasteland, with a sea of suck until you go back to Flacco in '08. So really, maybe only the Packers and Ravens should pick QB's in the 2nd half of the first.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:I could maybe yeah see the Bucs taking JJ. Maybe. The Bucs would make sense. So would the Cowboys if they didn't trade for Lance last year. I think the market for McCarthy is pretty limited because he'd need everything to go right. That makes me half jokingly suggest SF!
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Quinton Mitchell is gonna be really, really good.
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Unless the Rams know going into the draft that Stafford is retiring after next year, burning a mid-first on McCarthy would be borderline organizational malpractice
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Ornery and Hornery posted:0.000001% chance that Arizona or LA (Rams) draft JJ. Rams would be a Stafford succession plan.
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Dexo posted:Rams would be a Stafford succession plan. Yeah, that'd actually make a lot of sense and would probably be to his benefit. Learning under both Stafford and Sean McVay seems like an ideal landing.
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BlindSite posted:I still just don't see JJ going before the 3rd. Seattle ESPN radio is already manufacturing consent for JJ at 16. I personally would hate it for the start of the post Pete era
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