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Relentlessboredomm posted:It’s loving incredible. Love comboing that with my gotta go fast armor and then try to split off at times to go knock out quick objectives. The laser dog plus a turret means you can handle a lot of the side objectives if you’re careful. That said, do not take the laser dog to a super high position with bugs below you, it’ll murder you trying to get to the bugs. An underrated thing about it is that it makes elites way easier to deal with. Most of the time you can just focus on the big threats because your dog will pick off little guys as they try and rush you. It genuinely makes things like chargers easier because you can kinda just zone in on dealing with them and only flick a bug or two off your shoulder as you do it. I really want to be the guy who carries the ammo packs but it is hard to give up the dog.
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CuddleCryptid posted:The "picking one of 10,000 Helldivers out of cryo" load in screen implies every ship has a ton of divers on it but functionally it's funny how every single diver seems to get their own ship. When one goes in and immediately gets mulched by friendly fire does the captain just throw his hat down and turn around to go home? The Helldiver IS the Captain. When Helldiver 1 dies, Helldiver 2 is defrosted and is now the Captain. Rinse and repeat until out of Helldivers.
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CuddleCryptid posted:The "picking one of 10,000 Helldivers out of cryo" load in screen implies every ship has a ton of divers on it but functionally it's funny how every single diver seems to get their own ship. When one goes in and immediately gets mulched by friendly fire does the captain just throw his hat down and turn around to go home?
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5 railgun shots drops any charger in about 15 seconds. At 20 rounds I can kill 4, and at any range and without much risk of friendly fire. It also stunlocks them. You become more of an ammo hog, but you learn to grab all the ammo lying around POIs that no one seems to grab anyway.
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The fact I've now read 5 different viable strategies to handle chargers is amazing btw. Game good.
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Elendil004 posted:Twitch Chat asking about why the game doesn't have PVP. Never change. This game has the best kind of PVP. Accidental “I was trying to help” PVP reigns supreme.
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:I've been under the impression that's essentially what validating does. No. I'd uninstall it and then also go into your Steam game directory and delete any remaining installation files as well as that AppData folder you mentioned before, and definitely look into if you have to/can uninstall the anti-cheat separately and scrub it from your system. Then reinstall and see what happens 
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Eschatos posted:Am I missing something or is the jetpack basically useless? Being able to jump 10 feet is not remotely worth the strat/backpack slot. I haven't used it yet but it seemed like it would at least be somewhat useful for jumping over chargers or getting behind enemies with weak points in the back like basically any of the robos. Edit: Shelling a pack from above with a Grenade Launcher seems like it'd be neat too. explosivo fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Feb 13, 2024 |
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The jetpack is excellent as a "oh poo poo I need to get out" option and it opens up the ability to jump on top of large buildings/rocks and make the bugs have a much harder time getting to you
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Feb 13, 2024 18:40
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Typical Pubbie posted:I've been playing since launch and haven't noticed behavior like this. Not only are the patrol spawns relentless, they're also quicker to call in reinforcements. Maybe the game has given me Super PTSD. This is a couple pages back, but you can test this any time. Go stand near a patrol, fire off a round (not at them) and then go hide. They'll move to your last position. I use this occasionally to pull patrols away from teammates who are about to be walked on.
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I wonder how soon it'll be before someone figures out a stealth solo speed run strat for high difficulties. I've run some basic solo stealth missions and it seems kinda plausible but I'm only level 10 and don't have all the tools required.
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Feb 13, 2024 18:52
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The thing about the jetpack is you can't think of it as a mobility option, it's a super dodge that occasionally gets you to places that cheese the AI.
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sure okay posted:5 railgun shots drops any charger in about 15 seconds. At 20 rounds I can kill 4, and at any range and without much risk of friendly fire. It also stunlocks them. It's good and I wish it wasn't in the game, along with the auto-cannon being a crew served weapon that's so quick to load solo that team loading it will pretty much always be suboptimal. Devs, stop undermining the core mechanics of your game! Typical Pubbie fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Feb 13, 2024 |
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So is there a way to quickly switch between weapons using the mouse scroll wheel or am I just a stupid recruit?
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Typical Pubbie posted:It's good and I wish it wasn't in the game, along with the auto-cannon being a crew served weapon that's so easy to load solo that team loading it will pretty much always be suboptimal. Devs, stop undermining the core mechanics of your game! The auto-cannon being able to be reloaded solo is kind of weird, like I appreciate them allowing it but yeah I wasn't giving it a second thought when playing with pubs because I assumed it required a second person to reload. The description of the weapon even kinda makes it sound like this is the case, so I have to wonder if that wasn't a change they made later in development or something based on player feedback.
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Typical Pubbie posted:It's good and I wish it wasn't in the game, along with the auto-cannon being a crew served weapon that's so easy to load solo that team loading it will pretty much always be suboptimal. Devs, stop undermining the core mechanics of your game! In my experience, the autocannon is pretty good solo, but it’s absolutely amazing when you have a loader with you. You literally don’t have to ever stop firing until ammo runs out. Also putting it on full auto is too much fun and should be illegal.
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explosivo posted:The auto-cannon being able to be reloaded solo is kind of weird, like I appreciate them allowing it but yeah I wasn't giving it a second thought when playing with pubs because I assumed it required a second person to reload. The description of the weapon even kinda makes it sound like this is the case, so I have to wonder if that wasn't a change they made later in development or something based on player feedback. Is it not just like the recoilless where you can absolutely run it solo, but it's much faster to reload with a buddy? Seems like a less big deal when the weapon has a magazine. explosivo posted:I haven't used it yet but it seemed like it would at least be somewhat useful for jumping over chargers or getting behind enemies with weak points in the back like basically any of the robos. Yeah but I can also just sidestep em. There's definitely not enough jump height to safely shell anything from above.
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explosivo posted:The auto-cannon being able to be reloaded solo is kind of weird, like I appreciate them allowing it but yeah I wasn't giving it a second thought when playing with pubs because I assumed it required a second person to reload. The description of the weapon even kinda makes it sound like this is the case, so I have to wonder if that wasn't a change they made later in development or something based on player feedback. One way to make team loading more attractive would be to have it so that the weapon user always carries the backpack, and anyone on the team can act as a loader by pulling clips/rounds from the shooter's backpack. Having to lug someone else's specialized ammo is too big a hurdle for most players.
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sure okay posted:5 railgun shots drops any charger in about 15 seconds. At 20 rounds I can kill 4, and at any range and without much risk of friendly fire. It also stunlocks them. Is this on higher difficulties and are you overcharging your shots? I just tried Railgunning a Suicide Mission and it felt like it took forever to body shot them to death. It was difficult for me to time overcharging but not exploding while lining up shots on limbs. Surprised I lived through this launch: https://i.imgur.com/MWzFeP5.mp4
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Typical Pubbie posted:One way to make team loading more attractive would be to have it so that the weapon user always carries the backpack, and anyone on the team can act as a loader by pulling clips/rounds from the shooter's backpack. Having to lug someone else's specialized ammo is too big a hurdle for most players. This is actually what I figured it was when I first encountered a teammate running it. Once I realized it was a pack they had to drop I kept asking them to drop it so I can help but they never did and just reloaded it themselves the whole game  Eschatos posted:Yeah but I can also just sidestep em. There's definitely not enough jump height to safely shell anything from above. Dang. I hadn't tried it yet so I wasn't totally sure about that. The GL definitely has a wide blast radius.
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Tibbeh posted:The jetpack is excellent as a "oh poo poo I need to get out" option and it opens up the ability to jump on top of large buildings/rocks and make the bugs have a much harder time getting to you I'm convinced that the jetpack is a trap. It's just not worth using your backpack slot on. I've seen it enough with pubbies, but I have a friend who beelined to it and it's definitely reducing his impact because he spent all his strategem currency on it instead of something more useful like a supply pack.
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Diephoon posted:Is this on higher difficulties and are you overcharging your shots? I just tried Railgunning a Suicide Mission and it felt like it took forever to body shot them to death. It was difficult for me to time overcharging but not exploding while lining up shots on limbs.
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Harlock posted:What's the character progression loop in the game? Accidentally kill your friends and take their unlocked weapons. Use them to find and earn medals in missions to unlock your own weapons, so someone else can accidentally kill you and take them. It’s more of a chain than a loop.
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darkroot posted:In my experience, the autocannon is pretty good solo, but it’s absolutely amazing when you have a loader with you. You literally don’t have to ever stop firing until ammo runs out. Oh it's awesome, but unless you have two ammo packs, having a loader means you're separating the gun from its ammo supply, while reducing the number of people who are firing their own weapons by 1 when you team load. It's rarely worth it and can really screw you over.
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Potato Salad posted:how quickly does it produce a kill? or does fire stagger them somehow? It doesn’t stagger them, but you can hit them from any direction and they’ll go down after using 3/4 of the magazine, 1/2 if let the DOT from the fire kill it. If doesn’t tickle your funny bone, bring a Breaker shotgun, let it charge past you, unload two magazines into the butt until it pops, you’re then good to move on because it will bleed out. Or just bring an Autocannon or rocket sentry, they’ll stun-lock a charger to death Or or bring an ARC rifle, electricity ignores armor, a good 15 shoots from it from any angle will drop it. Or or or a bring a rail gun that’s overcharged, shot will stagger it and kill it relatively easy. I’m really confused why people having such hard time dealing with Chargers, even on the higher difficulty when there are 3-4 of them.
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darkroot posted:In my experience, the autocannon is pretty good solo, but it’s absolutely amazing when you have a loader with you. You literally don’t have to ever stop firing until ammo runs out.
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Another thing mobility > armor protection. Light is the way to go.
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Back Hack posted:It doesn’t stagger them, but you can hit them from any direction and they’ll go down after using 3/4 of the magazine, 1/2 if let the DOT from the fire kill it. how are you getting the time to use 1/2 - 3/4 of a magazine or 15 shots with a charged arc rifle or 2 full magazines on a single charger on helldive? there are so many bugs swarming at all times that the extra health and precision required to drop chargers just isn't practical, sure you can shoot off their leg and then gun it down - except you just got whacked by the other 30 bugs after you fired at its leg, and that's if a small one didn't mr president the rocket, and now you're trying to find which of the multiple chargers had its armor removed if you did hit it we stay alive with mobility, killing everything hasn't been practical - every now and then you'll get a brief lull (typically after everyone has just hard dumped bombardment and killed everything in the area), but generally it's just a constant running fight while 2-3 bile titans and 3 chargers and the rest of the swarm chases you around the map - god forbid there's stalkers, mortar bugs or spitters mixed in there too the issue isn't 'I don't understand how to kill chargers' it's 'chargers are disproportionately tough and disruptive relative to everything else on the field' so typically they just kind of... stay alive while we're dealing with the swarm or the bile titans or the spitters or the stalkers, all of which will loving murder you if you don't give them your full attention also please give me some kind of medal for my uncanny ability to throw impact grenades under chargers and completely miss them (I guess that qualifies as hitbox porn but it's less funny when you're getting rammed  )
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Back Hack posted:Another thing mobility > armor protection. Light is the way to go. Unless you're doing a defense mission, then heavy isn't so bad!
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victrix posted:the issue isn't 'I don't understand how to kill chargers' it's 'chargers are disproportionately tough and disruptive relative to everything else on the field' e: The equivalent unit for bots is the Hulk. But Hulks spawn alone, and are slow enough that you can just lead them around a corner and ditch them if you want. Chargers come in packs and will chase you across the face of the loving planet. megane fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Feb 13, 2024 |
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Typical Pubbie posted:Oh it's awesome, but unless you have two ammo packs, having a loader means you're separating the gun from its ammo supply, while reducing the number of people who are firing their own weapons by 1 when you team load. It's rarely worth it and can really screw you over.
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some real commie talk in here. if super earth wanted the chargers to be easier to deal with, they would've been bred weaker.
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A lot of the natural assumptions people have about weapon balance break down on higher difficulties. You just don't have time to fiddle with stuff when "bot reinforcement" means 6 drop ships are landing on top of you on an already crowded objective, and a giant wall cannon located in a completely different base has somehow aggro'd your squad and is killing you from a mile away. "Helldivers, you have 10 minutes remaining!" Typical Pubbie fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Feb 13, 2024 |
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hosed up that there's no achievement for killing a charger with your drop pod. You kill me? My clone kills YOU!
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megane posted:Chargers are just way too numerous for what they are. You don't put 3 of the same puzzle miniboss in every fight. The necessity to fit massive amounts of anti-armor into every single build, always, to the point where anything that doesn't punch through the heaviest armor in the game feels like a waste of a slot, was a big annoyance in HD1, and it seems like HD2 is the same way. Once you start targeting legs they're way less threatening. Strip the arm mag dump an smg and down it goes. Edit: to be clear i mean that really only one teammate needs anti armor so long as the rest know to focus the broken spots.
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megane posted:Chargers are just way too numerous for what they are. You don't put 3 of the same puzzle miniboss in every fight. The necessity to fit massive amounts of anti-armor into every single build, always, to the point where anything that doesn't punch through the heaviest armor in the game feels like a waste of a slot, was a big annoyance in HD1, and it seems like HD2 is the same way. You could also just make them charge through a minefield - it's one of the cheapest strategems and can be bought at a very low level. As it turns out, chargers are not terribly well-armored on their underside! Although in my experience with public players, minefields are often much more dangerous to the team than to the enemy...
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I've accepted my role as the opposite - I'm the garbage man. I take out the trash. I run with cluster bombs, a stalwart at 1150rpm, the laser guard dog (which I have nicknamed "the cornballer"), and the 500kg bomb or orbital laser. I'm the guy that gets 400 kills and the biggest thing I've killed is a stalker.
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