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pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


Mr. Nice! posted:

The prosecutions only started at all because Trump refused to return the documents he stole.

and again, prosecution on that should have started at least a year earlier
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-classified-documents-investigation-timeline-rcna88620

quote:

A two-year investigation
In May 2021, the National Archives began asking Trump and his staff to return all missing presidential records, according to email communications between the archives and Trump's lawyers that were later made public.

Two of Trump’s aides returned 15 boxes of records to the National Archives eight months later, in January 2022. The Archives soon determined that 14 of the boxes contained classified documents and referred their discovery to the Justice Department, the indictment says.

The FBI opened a criminal investigation in March 2022, and a grand jury issued a subpoena in May that required Trump to return all remaining classified documents in his possession, according to prosecutors.

charges not filed until june 2023. lol. if the Archives hadn't waited 8 months to get their poo poo back. if Justice hadn't waited 2 more months to start investigating. if they hadn't waited over a YEAR between subpoena and charging after noncompliance. here's what it shoulda been. Archives says 'gimme our poo poo'. 3 months later stuff is back. if it's not back, or if it (as it did) had classified stuff, Justice gets involved. that'd be august 2021. we'll give them the 2 months again for a subpoena. october 2021. act on that immediately. let's be generous and give them 6 months to figure out "oh should we get these classified docs back and maybe file charges" and another month for "hmm should we REALLY", and another month for "we're the government", june 2022. charges shoulda been filed a year earlier if anyone actually acted in a timely manner on, I dunno TS docs in the wild.

it's too late now. his stall tactics have won and we all know nothing is coming of this pre-election

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
It isn’t necessarily true that his delay will go much longer. There’s no indication that the SCOTUS will grant the stay at the moment. Lets wait another few days to a week before we make those statements.

Also we get a NY civil judgment Friday that’s going to have hundreds of millions in fines. He has to put up a bond for the full amount to appeal.

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I disagree, but not because I think the Special Counsel will succeed at preventing Trump 2: Big Mac Bugaloo from happening.

It’s because I know for a fact, truly, chaos is what reigns in the post escalator world. And we have no loving clue what chaotic bullshit will happen.

It could be chaotically good or chaotically evil, but you can bet your loving last bottle cap and .308 round that chaos reigns.

Don’t be a doomsayer, be a doomplayer!

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Mr. Nice! posted:

It isn’t necessarily true that his delay will go much longer. There’s no indication that the SCOTUS will grant the stay at the moment. Lets wait another few days to a week before we make those statements.

Also we get a NY civil judgment Friday that’s going to have hundreds of millions in fines. He has to put up a bond for the full amount to appeal.

The scrotus is over half pubbies and 100% bought and paid for, they'll do whatever benefits the 45th and increasingly probably 47th and final president of these United States.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Midjack posted:

The scrotus is over half pubbies and 100% bought and paid for, they'll do whatever benefits the 45th and increasingly probably 47th and final president of these United States.

To include giving away all their power and influence?

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



A.o.D. posted:

To include giving away all their power and influence?

If that's what their bosses tell them to do.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Midjack posted:

If that's what their bosses tell them to do.

I don't think you get the Supreme Court.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


i don't know if the current supreme court will do it, but I 100% believe a future supreme court absolutely will give up their power and influence for petty personal gain

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

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didnt clarence thomas just get exposed for doing exactly that with canadian comedian harland williams?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

pantslesswithwolves posted:

https://twitter.com/kisstheblade_/status/1757869583719924152

Oh I DEFINITELY did not have this one on my
Bingo card. :stare:

lmfao. Also thanks to some wise rear end in cspam, I've seen the pictures. I'll not be posting them (youre welcome)


JB at its worst at least did have awesome set pieces. I like the ones where they go to baku and battleship island.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Milo and POTUS posted:

JB at its worst at least did have awesome set pieces. I like the ones where they go to baku and battleship island.

it's a crime they never used the parkent solar furnace



A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

UHD posted:

i don't know if the current supreme court will do it, but I 100% believe a future supreme court absolutely will give up their power and influence for petty personal gain

I can believe that any given SCOTUS justice would sell their power and influence, but give it up completely? There's not a price you can pay for the amount of power combined with the lack of oversight they enjoy.

Although.. it's not without historical precedent.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
If they’ve come to Rachel Dolezal, the teacher shortage must be serious.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
If they’ve come to Rachel Dolezal, the porn shortage must be serious.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
You have to remember that although the scotus is conservative as gently caress, they are not necessarily trumpers with the exception of Thomas. Christian fascists? Yes. Maga? Eh.

Granting cert and overturning the DC circuit would put presidents beyond their reach. They would be ceding the court’s power to regulate the criminal actions of a person, which would be insane. Under Trump’s reasoning, Joe Biden could send a team of SF forces to kill Trump and the conservative justices, and there could be no punishment for him unless he was first impeached and removed from office.

While I can agree that delay and stall tactics are frustrating, there is an end in sight.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Mr. Nice! posted:

You have to remember that although the scotus is conservative as gently caress, they are not necessarily trumpers with the exception of Thomas. Christian fascists? Yes. Maga? Eh.

Granting cert and overturning the DC circuit would put presidents beyond their reach. They would be ceding the court’s power to regulate the criminal actions of a person, which would be insane. Under Trump’s reasoning, Joe Biden could send a team of SF forces to kill Trump and the conservative justices, and there could be no punishment for him unless he was first impeached and removed from office.

While I can agree that delay and stall tactics are frustrating, there is an end in sight.

An end of what though?

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Platystemon posted:

If they’ve come to Rachel Dolezal, the teacher shortage must be serious.

100%, just skimming her Wikipedia feels like a walking lawsuit waiting to happen, and at the very least like a slightly drama prone person with incredibly poor decision making. Especially if there were an incident where a student or other teacher sued because of something she did, during discovery the school district would get nuked for having to explain how this person passed background checks to be in a position of authority.

Wonder if it’s like Louisiana for profit prisons where if you got a pulse you’ve got a minimum wage job as the only guard in the wing.

Hyrax Attack! fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Feb 15, 2024

LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler

That Works posted:

"for quite some time" eh?

Shoggoths would be an improvement.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Well here's a curveball!

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1758142887592661045?t=chgaDutKCBgUFfBJ8G47Ww&s=19

https://www.justsecurity.org/92301/trump-fails-to-get-n-y-hush-money-case-dismissed-as-judge-gears-up-for-march-trial/

The weakest of the cases, the hush money payments to Stormy Daniels, is headed for trial in a month.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Feb 15, 2024

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

facialimpediment posted:

If they’ve come to Rachel Dolezal, the porn shortage must be serious.

It's OnlyFans, there doesn't have to be a high demand so long as the supply is enough of a narcissist.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

That Works posted:

An end of what though?

Trump's delay of the Jan 6th trial.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

Qtotonibudinibudet posted:

it's a crime they never used the parkent solar furnace





that must suck to clean

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Mr. Nice! posted:

Trump's delay of the Jan 6th trial.

The comedy of it is that the NY case was basically going to go on indefinite hold, but he stalled so much on the J6 case that there's now plenty of time for the NY case to be done and the judge is taking advantage of it.

It's also not helping that his lawyers appear to be dumb here too:

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1758161439041228916?t=zTBER4ZPz7vHzG-JOX0aZw&s=19

And his defense attorneys are still just performing for the Audience of One:

https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1758161646692802858?t=dblla_aQq1BF0DBuz7UhTg&s=19

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


facialimpediment posted:

And his defense attorneys are still just performing for the Audience of One:

https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1758161646692802858?t=dblla_aQq1BF0DBuz7UhTg&s=19

Whenever I see "strenuously object" I think of this scene from A Few Good Men

https://youtu.be/tYmI7J3NCsI?si=s3bGF8exdpeyOD1c

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
this one's funny in a very special way:

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1758188164487786510?t=D4Z2DUZRUZhBH304vremGw&s=19

Elmo got mad about the NLRB calling him on anti-union poo poo with SpaceX, so he got mad and filed a lawsuit to get the NLRB ruled unconstitutional. He filed it in SDTX to try and judge-shop and argue it was a nationwide effect to the business. A problem for him is that SpaceX is headquartered in California, incorporated in Delaware, 7/8 affected workers are based out of California, and the other is based out of Washington and supervised by California. Elmo now gets to enjoy the services of a federal district court judge based out of California.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
NY Magazine Personal Finance Columnist is convinced by a phone call that the CIA needs her to give them $50,000 in cash right away, and so drops a box of $50k through a car window. https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html

https://x.com/tomgara/status/1758176276357976154?s=20

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

mlmp08 posted:

NY Magazine Personal Finance Columnist is convinced by a phone call that the CIA needs her to give them $50,000 in cash right away, and so drops a box of $50k through a car window.

Laughed like hell at this edit:

https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1758190924822147292?t=O89RcZ1FautMXSn8X9lWGQ&s=19

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019



So, would that could as a super-early or super-late abortion?

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





mlmp08 posted:

NY Magazine Former Personal Finance Columnist

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Robert Facepalmer posted:

So, would that could as a super-early or super-late abortion?

It would only count as late stage abortion had he aimed for his head

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

facialimpediment posted:

Elmo got mad about the NLRB calling him on anti-union poo poo with SpaceX, so he got mad and filed a lawsuit to get the NLRB ruled unconstitutional. He filed it in SDTX to try and judge-shop and argue it was a nationwide effect to the business. A problem for him is that SpaceX is headquartered in California, incorporated in Delaware, 7/8 affected workers are based out of California

He reportedly just got the corporation transferred to Texas, not that it matters for this case.

Steezo
Jun 16, 2003
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!


ElMaligno posted:

It would only count as late stage abortion had he aimed for his head

You mean the other one right?

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

mlmp08 posted:

NY Magazine Personal Finance Columnist is convinced by a phone call that the CIA needs her to give them $50,000 in cash right away, and so drops a box of $50k through a car window. https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html

https://x.com/tomgara/status/1758176276357976154?s=20

Holy cow wow. It’s nuts how common that is getting, & how absurd the schemes seem in hindsight. I’ve read about multiple ones where at several stages a bank representative directly asks the person “is someone telling you to cash out this account?” or even had a person tasked with preventing fraud try to tell them they are likely being ripped off but they’re so far down the rabbit hole it doesn’t work.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Not that the Biden impeachment probe was leading to anything of consequence, but the underlying shady source just got popped for lying to the FBI

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1758246226447737249?t=0ComNWsar_j1_uA485oO5Q&s=19

This was basically the basis for the FBI FD-1023 they used as the smoking gun for the inquiry. It won't matter, but still funny.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Feb 15, 2024

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Holy cow wow. It’s nuts how common that is getting, & how absurd the schemes seem in hindsight. I’ve read about multiple ones where at several stages a bank representative directly asks the person “is someone telling you to cash out this account?” or even had a person tasked with preventing fraud try to tell them they are likely being ripped off but they’re so far down the rabbit hole it doesn’t work.

much like the placards on gift card racks saying "if the fbi is trying to have you pay them with itunes cards, you are being scammed"

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Zamujasa posted:

much like the placards on gift card racks saying "if the fbi is trying to have you pay them with itunes cards, you are being scammed"

Yeah it’s bad. One elderly relative only evaded being hacked because he kept trying to open a remote access prompt on his iPhone despite the frustrated scammer trying to walk him through doing so on his laptop, and it went on long enough his wife asked who he was talking to and then to hang up.

Thankful the folk most vulnerable to this have listened to me so far when I’ve told them the IRS or Amazon or whatever do not call asking for money & if they didn’t initiate the call to hang up, & if their computer is flashing that it has a virus to not touch anything & set it aside & call me and I will help.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

facialimpediment posted:

Not that the Biden impeachment probe was leading to anything of consequence, but the underlying shady source just got popped for lying to the FBI

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1758246226447737249?t=0ComNWsar_j1_uA485oO5Q&s=19

This was basically the basis for the FBI FD-1023 they used as the smoking gun for the inquiry. It won't matter, but still funny.

that just means their tryin to sylance him

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
damnit Comedy Central how do you not have the single best Nora from Queens clip on Youtube (Grandma handling phone scammers)

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
In a rare bit of good news, Greece is the newest country to legalize gay marriage.

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Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
Going back to their ancient roots, I see.

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