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Shadski posted:Class / build recommendations for controller play. I just wanna chill with my steam deck and smash/shoot/spell monsters.
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Shadski posted:Class / build recommendations for controller play. I just wanna chill with my steam deck and smash/shoot/spell monsters. Swarmblade druid and Shadow Dagger bladdancer Swarmblade is literally a 2 button build.
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Feb 15, 2024 15:29
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gnoma posted:Building around Bleed Overload and Rip Blood on Warlock or Lich should fit what you're asking for. Bleed Overload casts a spell called Rip Blood every second while its active. Rip Blood can be specced to recast itself when it kills enemies and has a subskill in its tree called Blood Splatters that deals area damage. It can be triggered via a movement skill (Transplant) and used as a spammable for single target. Hitting 25 stacks of bleed to trigger the overload is pretty easy even for a crit build, so you don't even necessarily need to scale ailment damage. Ooo the spark charges build looks right up my alley. Thanks!
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Feb 15, 2024 16:24
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My general impression/opinoins of the classes and masteries for anyone who cares, hopefully this might help someone narrow it down. I haven't played them all but I'm an altoholic so I've levelled a bunch into mid monos at least Sentinel: I don't like this class for any of the masteries because it has the same problem as barb in D4 in that you have three mandatory buff spells across all the viable builds. Chief among these is volatile reversal, which resets your mana, health, and buffs to what they were two seconds before. I hate snapshotting mechanics. Still, there are some very powerful builds here. Rogue: Shadowdagger blade master is strong as hell. It's mobile, and you leave vortexes of death that just melt content. I've barely played any marksman but unless you just have to play a bow class I don't see any reason to roll MM over blademaster. SDBM was also my fastest and easiest leveling experience. Mage: As it stands, roll runemaster or nothing. Spellblade is consistently an underperforming class and sorceror is just a shittier runemaster. Runemaster is such an interesting, unique (and strong) class that it behooves you to pick this mastery over the others Acolyte: Lots of variety for necro, but some of the most powerful builds require you to cast spells on your minions, which isn't possible with a controller. Better than a D4 minion necro, anyway. (I'm not a huge fan of minion builds in general so) Lich is going to depend on how much you like using a long cooldown at low life as most builds are built around Death Seal (which gives you more power the less health you have) and a 20s CD Reaper Form. As you get later it's easier to maintain uptime (not sure if you can ever get to 100% though) but in the early goings you're spending half the time as a weak caster running away from guys while you wait for your Reaper form to come off CD. Primalist: Shaman is a joke, the mastery needs a complete overhaul. Beastmaster isn't as bad but it isn't good either. Druid is a very strong class, but the top builds play extremely similar to a D4 pulverize druid. I've not played any of the two new classes so I'm going to roll one of those (and then the other shortly after probably) but given how far ahead of the other classes Runemaster is, I'm expecting that these two masteries will be the standouts in their class at launch.
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Feb 15, 2024 16:41
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zoux posted:Primalist: Shaman is a joke, the mastery needs a complete overhaul. Beastmaster isn't as bad but it isn't good either. Druid is a very strong class, but the top builds play extremely similar to a D4 pulverize druid. Speaking which, there was a dev blog yesterday about reworking Tempest Strike and replacing Ice Thorns with a new skill that's basically the lightning bolts that Shamans like to summon with everything else, thus allowing them to be upgraded through a skill tree. I guess it's implied that other classes and skills will be getting minor reworks for 1.0. Clarste fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Feb 15, 2024 |
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Feb 15, 2024 16:58
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Clarste posted:Speaking which, there was a dev blog today about reworking Tempest Strike and replacing Ice Thorns with a new skill that's basically the lightning bolts that Shamans like to summon with everything else, thus allowing them to be upgraded through a skill tree. They’ve been saying there is like 60 pages of patch notes for 1.0 so I imagine a decent chunk of those are rebalancing.
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Feb 15, 2024 17:22
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I'm still picking away at the POE league, but I picked this up in anticipation of the launch next week. Are there, like, guilds or global chat channels that everyone is using? The game seems super neat.
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Feb 15, 2024 18:40
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Spellblade is good. The ward on hit and defensive layers it gets make it very tanky and every skill you'd use on it handles 500+ corruption and T4 bosses fine. You can also trade away defenses for glass cannon Shatter Strike and get super fast boss kills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUfbJl2q39U It's an older mastery so doesn't have a lot of bugs and overtuned stuff like Runemaster, but is very solid. I've taken multiple versions to end game and can recommend it if you want a flashy melee with teleport that can no sell 95% of boss attacks.
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Feb 15, 2024 19:04
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Yeah Shatter Strike Spellblade is pretty fun and there are easy to acquire set items that really get you started so you don't have to worry too much about item hunting to get things rolling.
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Feb 15, 2024 19:14
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If they rework Tempest Strike to something vaguely useful I'm gonna start Primalist immediately
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Feb 15, 2024 19:50
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Having just gotten a shaman through the campaign, like, just now, I do like the idea of the screen being full of lightning bolts, forever.
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Feb 15, 2024 20:38
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They better not touch Earthquake!!! except to make it look COOLER.
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Feb 15, 2024 20:42
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What's the better smite on hammer hit class, Void Knight or Paladin? I've played the Paladin version before, started with holy trail lance, switched to bleed hammer until i got idols, then facerolled with the smite idols.
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Feb 15, 2024 20:51
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Paladin has the higher floor, Void Knight has the higher ceiling. Void Knight has better late game uniques like Ravenous Void, Bulwark of the Last Abyss, and Anchor of Oblivion and because you scale with vitality you get tankier. Paladin has a lot of baseline defenses that make the transition into empowered monoliths easier but because you're scaling mana with Devotion you lose out on vitality prefixes on the chest and helm and don't have similar high value legendary items to shoot for. Nova Hammers is stronger on Paladin though, due to that build having a harder time capping crit and scaling the same on either mastery.
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Feb 15, 2024 22:03
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gnoma posted:Paladin has the higher floor, Void Knight has the higher ceiling. Void Knight has better late game uniques like Ravenous Void, Bulwark of the Last Abyss, and Anchor of Oblivion and because you scale with vitality you get tankier. Paladin has a lot of baseline defenses that make the transition into empowered monoliths easier but because you're scaling mana with Devotion you lose out on vitality prefixes on the chest and helm and don't have similar high value legendary items to shoot for. I was thinking of leveling as the autobomber Void knight build and transition to the smite on hammer build. Is that a terrible plan?
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Feb 15, 2024 22:27
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That will work well.
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Feb 15, 2024 22:58
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The Locator posted:D4 just went on sale on Steam for 40% off. Still over $40, but I might cave in and finally buy it to play through the campaign. Not sure how long it will be before it gets cheaper than that. Good news - D4 will be on Gamepass soon - https://twitter.com/XboxGamePassPC/status/1758219989239423043 The person who posted this to Reddit said it's coming March 28th, but I don't know where they got that date from.
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Feb 16, 2024 16:24
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still not worth that price
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Feb 16, 2024 16:26
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Sab669 posted:Good news - D4 will be on Gamepass soon - It came directly from the head of Xbox, Phil Spencer. But also its in the tweet you just shared. :P
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Feb 16, 2024 16:39
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Oh haha, I just clicked to the last few seconds of the video assuming it'd be like a "fade to black with the date after the actual clip" thing. The campaign is definitely worth $15 IMO.
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Feb 16, 2024 16:51
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Yeah, D4's single-player campaign is fine. Definitely not $70 fine, but worth a playthrough if you have Gamepass already. All the fundamental problems only really become apparent in the endgame. The game's engine has some surprising limitations, and the endgame structure seems to go out of its way to accentuate those limits.
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Feb 16, 2024 18:26
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Oh, so that's why they added a 65$ horse skin to Diablo 4?
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Feb 16, 2024 18:49
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The entire games balance is centered around the cash shop and seasonal battle pass. So it completely ruins the flow and pacing of the game. There's no way to fix it unless the cash shop and battle passes are removed. The game has to be played a certain way in order to inflate player engagement and play hours. Its why the damage output of the classes is so low and enemies are such huge health sponges. Can't have players finishing the seasonal content too quickly.
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Feb 16, 2024 18:51
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I said come in! posted:The entire games balance is centered around the cash shop and seasonal battle pass. So it completely ruins the flow and pacing of the game. There's no way to fix it unless the cash shop and battle passes are removed. The game has to be played a certain way in order to inflate player engagement and play hours. Its why the damage output of the classes is so low and enemies are such huge health sponges. Can't have players finishing the seasonal content too quickly.  players are insanely powerful and smashing everything is expected D4 needs some serious endgame love and the itemization revamp that's supposedly coming next season, but not being able to kill everything in sight with a quickness is not one of its core issues by any stretch
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Feb 16, 2024 18:54
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I said come in! posted:The entire games balance is centered around the cash shop and seasonal battle pass. So it completely ruins the flow and pacing of the game. There's no way to fix it unless the cash shop and battle passes are removed. The game has to be played a certain way in order to inflate player engagement and play hours. Its why the damage output of the classes is so low and enemies are such huge health sponges. Can't have players finishing the seasonal content too quickly. I really don't like d4 because the itemization is a trash fire and there's no loot filter, but thus post is like completely incorrect lol.
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Feb 16, 2024 18:59
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The cosmetics are grossly over priced and the game is just not very well designed. But I don't really see a connection between the two besides they're both bad.
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Feb 16, 2024 19:30
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Shadski posted:Class / build recommendations for controller play. I just wanna chill with my steam deck and smash/shoot/spell monsters. Spin to win and hammerdin both play pretty well on controller as you'd expect, I have probably 20 hours between the two, all logged on Steam Deck before bed.
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Feb 16, 2024 20:10
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 Why does description for this ability talks about "chance to be cast" when it's actually picks the element in the exact same order every time? EDIT: Oh nevermind, the actual damage is different every time, but the runes that it grants for the Runic Invocation is always in the same order. https://streamable.com/54uo5t Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Feb 16, 2024 |
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Feb 16, 2024 20:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOh9eEHA8Ng Raxxanterax made a complete beginners guide, for those who are just getting to know the game
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Feb 16, 2024 20:50
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New trailer thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddvY964TCoQ
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Feb 16, 2024 20:58
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Sab669 posted:Good news - D4 will be on Gamepass soon - That would require I have Gamepass. 
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Feb 16, 2024 22:04
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 I have no qualms with subbing for a month to functionally rent a game I want to play but know I will never want to play a second time.
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Feb 16, 2024 22:23
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As an old man pc gamer superiority type, I did finally decide to get an xbox a few months ago and try game pass. It's....really pretty awesome. My family all like to play games for a little bit, so it gives them a lot of variety to gently caress around with things, without having to buy of bunch of stuff to only play for 4-5 hours. Then I can play stuff on my PC too, and even on my phone using a backbone controller adapter thing (via streaming from the xbox, or cloud gaming if I don't have it installed - cloud gaming isn't perfect though). Been plenty of stuff (mainly shooters) that I've been checking out, that I couldn't be arsed to buy. Not trying to shill for game pass, but as someone who never bothers with consoles other than Nintendo, jumping in recently made me really dig the service.
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Feb 16, 2024 22:29
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Gamepass is fine, D4 is the thing that sucks Been enjoying playing runemaster so far, only lvl30 but it's been a lot of fun electrocuting anything and everything
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Feb 16, 2024 22:36
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No point in playing Diablo IV either way no matter what, when a superior ARPG comes out of early access in 5 days.
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Feb 16, 2024 22:42
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I mean yea LE is the better game overall, but D4 does have the best/coolest campaign of any ARPG [which as I said on the other page is an extremely low bar]... Plus not like it'll be taken off Gamepass, so can just play it down the line if one really wants to experience it.
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Feb 16, 2024 22:43
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New dev blog about Healing Hands skill tree. To be honest, I have to wonder if they're going too far almost? The skill itself is completely unrecognizable.
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Feb 16, 2024 22:45
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Clarste posted:New dev blog about Healing Hands skill tree. To be honest, I have to wonder if they're going too far almost? The skill itself is completely unrecognizable. What does this have to do with Diablo 4
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Feb 16, 2024 22:46
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Sab669 posted:I mean yea LE is the better game overall, but D4 does have the best/coolest campaign of any ARPG [which as I said on the other page is an extremely low bar]... Plus not like it'll be taken off Gamepass, so can just play it down the line if one really wants to experience it. starting to think u have incredibly poor arpg taste
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I really hope they release new league mechanics and blatantly rip off the atlas tree from POE. I think one of the biggest thing that gives POE legs is the ability to tune what you enjoy by adjusting mechanics while trying to find the best ways to make money. For the money to be exciting though, they need chase items to save up for. The bear bones of this game is fantastic, I cannot wait to see what the devs continue to add to the game. Hopefully the end game grows while the customization options continue to increase alongside it. Might look into this cool Warlock Build. Build looks fun and I like to roleplay as Fairuza Balk from "The Craft" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWCV74mGCnU Cool DangerDongs fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Feb 16, 2024 |
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