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I just did a solo ICBM mission on Extreme. When I got to the missile silo there were a bunch of bots scattered around the base. Instead of shooting them, I tried to see if I could Solid Snake the place by sneaking up behind each bot and meleeing them on my way to the terminal, and holy poo poo, it actually works. Killing a bot with melee won't alert nearby bots unless they actually see you do it. I was able to launch the missile without firing a shot.
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Yea those escort missions gotta be bugged. Like the spawn rate for new dropships is 1.5 instead of 0.5 or something like that.
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Feb 16, 2024 04:36
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JBP posted:They're going to drop you a mech omg you're right, this is all on purpose 
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Feb 16, 2024 04:45
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How did mechs work in the first game? Will be bummed if lvl 20+ gameplay devolves into everyone just gets into a mech
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Feb 16, 2024 04:46
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Endgame in HD1 was just sprinting everywhere, mechs were a liability. In this game I bet they would still be a liability unless they give every mech the nuclear eject from TF2.
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Feb 16, 2024 04:49
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Banjo Bones posted:How did mechs work in the first game? Will be bummed if lvl 20+ gameplay devolves into everyone just gets into a mech Mechs let you be surrounded and overwhelmed, I imagine it will be the same in this, so one dude in a mech and three keeping him alive.
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Feb 16, 2024 04:58
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Plus they were one and done, so you call down at the beginning and if you lose it you shrug and move on
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Feb 16, 2024 05:00
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Bruc posted:How are people going about taking out the cannon towers on the large bot bases? I know there are weakspots and I have no problem actually killing them but they seem to have crazy range and can track you at full speed without a problem so we end up dying to them a whole lot before actually getting an angle on them or in range for a strike of some kind. A orbital rail cannon strike also one shots them. Typical Pubbie posted:I just did a solo ICBM mission on Extreme. When I got to the missile silo there were a bunch of bots scattered around the base. Instead of shooting them, I tried to see if I could Solid Snake the place by sneaking up behind each bot and meleeing them on my way to the terminal, and holy poo poo, it actually works. Killing a bot with melee won't alert nearby bots unless they actually see you do it. I was able to launch the missile without firing a shot. You can also use smoke strikes to get in to take down the t-800 cqc style too. Smoke strikes can also take out fabricators and kinda nests. Havent tried it much against bug holes.
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Feb 16, 2024 05:20
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Typical Pubbie posted:I just did a solo ICBM mission on Extreme. When I got to the missile silo there were a bunch of bots scattered around the base. Instead of shooting them, I tried to see if I could Solid Snake the place by sneaking up behind each bot and meleeing them on my way to the terminal, and holy poo poo, it actually works. Killing a bot with melee won't alert nearby bots unless they actually see you do it. I was able to launch the missile without firing a shot. It does seem like the smart way to play is to try and be stealthy avoiding patrols and preparing your assaults ahead of time by calling down your traps and guns and artillery strikes to alpha strike everything before it can fight back and get the objectives done before you get swarmed and the frantic chaos begins where you make a run for it, but good luck trying to do that without communication with rando's and people trying to kill every unalerted patrol.
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Feb 16, 2024 05:47
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But what if I like killing things and barely scraping by to the evac???
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Feb 16, 2024 05:51
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If you haven't done one of the Protect Democracy missions where you have to raise 3 flags in different camps, you should at least once. The flag pole raises by itself, slowly, with a tinny speaker playing DEMOCRATIC music. At the end you get little sparklers 
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Feb 16, 2024 05:52
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:It does seem like the smart way to play is to try and be stealthy avoiding patrols and preparing your assaults ahead of time by calling down your traps and guns and artillery strikes to alpha strike everything before it can fight back and get the objectives done before you get swarmed and the frantic chaos begins where you make a run for it, but good luck trying to do that without communication with rando's and people trying to kill every unalerted patrol. In HD1 there was a radar Strategem that was practically mandatory on higher difficulties to ensure you didn't accidentally set off patrols and get overwhelmed. I know some of the armors in HD2 offer radar around your ping and I think there's a stratagem that gives you some sight as well. But yeah at higher levels you're trying to minimize combat as much as possible to prevent things from getting too hairy. Actually now that I think about it, do the smoke Strategems let you break aggro? In HD1 once enemies spotted you they'd track you all the way across the map.
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Feb 16, 2024 05:54
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I feel bad for the Starship Troopers game now. It was fun and I enjoyed it but man, Helldivers 2 is just better in every way
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I had my first extraction bug recently where the dropship said that it had landed, but didn't put the door down, I think because it was trying to land on a big corpse. It looked as though it was moving verrry slowly towards the ground. It took off without any of us and showed the extraction cutscene, but the mission was still a success. Regarding the defence event, I'm pretty sure it's way harder than usual because it's a sneak attack. We are meant to be caught unaware and dealing with more than expected. People are saying "Hey this isn't the same as the difficulty level I usually play, something must be broken!" but I think it has its own mission modifiers on top of that difficulty like extra enemy drop ships.
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Feb 16, 2024 06:04
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(wizened butler) Why do we fall, Helldiver? So we can fall again.
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Feb 16, 2024 06:11
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Jawnycat posted:
I unfortunately didn't think to take a screenshot but I managed to kill our entire team the first time we found an unexploded hellbomb. 22K friendly fire.
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Feb 16, 2024 06:23
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:
Sadly, I think its the same here 
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Feb 16, 2024 06:26
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On difficulty 4 I can normally take out a big charger from in front with one mag of the grenade launcher, I think. Today I played difficulty 3 and had a mission to kill two charger boss bugs. Those guys needed at least three or four clips each. Are the bugs that are marked as mission objectives, a lot tougher? Also someone online said that the eagle cluster bomb is great and still destroys objectives, even though the text said it can't. It really doesn't! It did maybe one out of six times. I like the eagle 500kg bomb and orbital strike, what are other great attack stratagems?
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Feb 16, 2024 06:26
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I promise I'm trying not to TK, people just like to rush objectives while I struggle to put in Kombat Kodes
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Feb 16, 2024 06:26
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Internet Explorer posted:But what if I like killing things and barely scraping by to the evac??? There is an achievement/trophy in it for you if you can do it with no time left.
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Feb 16, 2024 06:28
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RBA Starblade posted:I feel bad for the Starship Troopers game now. It was fun and I enjoyed it but man, Helldivers 2 is just better in every way They both thankfully do their own thing and are very different games. I like that Starship Troopers has base building and 16 player co-op, but yeah it’s a much smaller, less funded game, and in early access. It doesnt stand a chance.
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Feb 16, 2024 06:30
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i didn't know about the event and blind joined a 8 diff defend and lmfao
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Feb 16, 2024 06:30
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Internet Explorer posted:But what if I like killing things and barely scraping by to the evac??? Yeah I don't really care what the meta is, I like shooting and scrambling and killing the enemies of managed democracy. I'm not gonna alert random patrols for no reason but I am gonna go running into objectives and get a good scrap going most times. Which is kind of the downside of the hardest difficulties, they push you towards stealth which I don't think is all that fun.
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Feb 16, 2024 06:39
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Managed a bunch of medium difficulty evac missions tonight, they're not too bad as long as you have a lot of mortar sentries going and everyone is mashing the button so you can extract as soon as possible. Anything above medium seemed borderline impossible to me though.
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Feb 16, 2024 06:41
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I'm actually clearing those evac missions pretty consistently now on the higher difficulties, the trick is to just ignore enemies and stand by the buttons inbetween smoke drops you can get to like 30 people before the hulks start dropping
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Feb 16, 2024 06:42
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Really want to start evacing people ASAP, ahve people head to the buttons and start slamming immediately. Bring a few recoillless rifles or EATs to take down the first few dropships to keep things manageable for a bit.
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redreader posted:I like the eagle 500kg bomb and orbital strike, what are other great attack stratagems? Eagle missile pods, they aren't as bombastic as the strafe but they are going to actively target poo poo that matters and that makes them far less likely to kill someone you care about. Combined you can take care of most things, be it large buildings or key enemies.
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Feb 16, 2024 06:47
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Are Bile Spewers just not spawning for anyone else? I ran probably 20 different combinations of missions, difficulties, and planets through to at least one objective and not a single one spawned for me anywhere.
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Feb 16, 2024 06:49
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Autocannon is BiS for a lot of poo poo but has anyone tried the Penetrator AR + Stalwart LMG combo? I just want a change of pace, though I'd understand if we're still too early and deep in the launch month balance swamp.
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Feb 16, 2024 06:50
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Been killing bile spewers like a champion and not getting any credit rip
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Banjo Bones posted:How did mechs work in the first game? Will be bummed if lvl 20+ gameplay devolves into everyone just gets into a mech They moved (and thus aimed) slowly. They were very vulnerable to getting surrounded. They were susceptible to giving and receiving friendly fire since they had massively destructive weapons and moved really slowly, unable to get out of way of calldowns. The were pretty balanced IMO and they had their uses. However they really dropped off in the hardest difficulties since you generally wanted to be stealthy and constantly on the move and the mechs were just far too slow to keep up.
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toasterwarrior posted:Autocannon is BiS for a lot of poo poo but has anyone tried the Penetrator AR + Stalwart LMG combo? I just want a change of pace, though I'd understand if we're still too early and deep in the launch month balance swamp.
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redreader posted:On difficulty 4 I can normally take out a big charger from in front with one mag of the grenade launcher, I think. Today I played difficulty 3 and had a mission to kill two charger boss bugs. Those guys needed at least three or four clips each. Are the bugs that are marked as mission objectives, a lot tougher? It depends on the objective. It'll close bug holes for sure. Also no, the mission targets aren't harder.
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Huh. Turns out 4 mortar turrets on one person is the correct strategy for a bot defense mission.
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If this game didn't kick so much rear end it would just be a horribly broken piece of poo poo where nothing works half the time, but I love doing my part and spreading managed democracy Had my first really nasty frame drop earlier on the one rainy bug planet, but my party all died and bailed at the time so I just closed out. Also got stuck in the conveyor thing where you come in after joining a party
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1stGear posted:Huh. Turns out 4 mortar turrets on one person is the correct strategy for a bot defense mission. Throw four 380s at once and use the hug emote
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According to some people the 4 stratagems on one loadout is a UI exploit so it should probably get fixed. Can't speak for the people with 999+ research samples. I guess feel free to report them in the name of Managed Democracy.
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victrix posted:iirc the game director said the intent is all the primaries have some kind of niche and are roughly similar in power, I don't think any of them are intended to be wildly better than the others (ymmv of course), depending on the opponent type/mission type/your loadout I've found that the explosive AR, which was unjustly maligned ITT earlier, is great against bots and the medium elite bugs, which the normal AR struggles with. So this does seem to hold true at least in this limited case study.
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:I've found that the explosive AR, which was unjustly maligned ITT earlier, is great against bots and the medium elite bugs, which the normal AR struggles with. So this does seem to hold true at least in this limited case study. Doesn't the explosive AR, in addition to requiring money to buy, have less mags as a tradeoff? I mean obviously the solution is hump around an ammo backpack and a solid sidearm but still. Honestly I wouldn't know. I've barely unlocked the initial DMR.
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