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I feel like remaining individuals is unnatural for changelings. It's not how they evolved, each individual is supposed to act as essentially a braincell in the superorganism that is the great link. They always seemed really, really eager to return to the link, like being an individual was psychologically uncomfortable for them. At least, Odo seemed super uncomfortable all the time, and he returned to the great link eventually too, presumably for good.
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Presumably he came out for long enough to get Worf a message, or at least I always assumed so.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Presumably he came out for long enough to get Worf a message, or at least I always assumed so. The line of dialogue didn't actually say that Worf's "close friend within the Link" was Odo, but it's so ridiculously obvious that Memory Alpha straight up says it was him.
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Feb 16, 2024 02:23
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Heck, the Q have a rule about not provoking the Borg. my read on that is less "the Borg could threaten the Q" and more "hey, dumbass, don't break your toys"
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Nigmaetcetera posted:I feel like remaining individuals is unnatural for changelings. It's not how they evolved, each individual is supposed to act as essentially a braincell in the superorganism that is the great link. They always seemed really, really eager to return to the link, like being an individual was psychologically uncomfortable for them. At least, Odo seemed super uncomfortable all the time, and he returned to the great link eventually too, presumably for good. if you could be loving all the time 24/7 would you say no to that?
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Feb 16, 2024 02:36
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TrashMammal posted:if you could be loving all the time 24/7 would you say no to that? realistically yes but in a work of science fiction, no.
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Dabir posted:Of course they would. They can genetically modify the dependency and the biological aspect of the brainwashing out of them, and in return they get data on super strong, super tough super soldiers who can naturally turn invisible. Plus they only live like 12 years max. If a few thousand drones turn out to be duds at least you aren't stuck with them for long.
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John Murdoch posted:The boring but sensible answer is that if the Borg met the Changelings the combination of hostility + biological incompatibility would probably convince them to give up and move on. It just wouldn't be efficient to keep trying. How would the borg ever encounter a founder? It isn't like every Vort and Jemmie know where the homeworld is. Most of them have never met a founder. If the borg happen to encounter a planet with a founder on it, the founder just turns into a squirrel and is entirely overlooked while it scampers out of scanner range. A ship is trickier since the whole thing is presumably within scanner range and the founder has to turn back into goo eventually, but even then they just order the jem to blow a hole in the hull so they can disguise themselves as a bit of debris and float away.
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Facebook Aunt posted:How would the borg ever encounter a founder? It isn't like every Vort and Jemmie know where the homeworld is. Whoa whoa with the racism, next you'll be calling the Cardies spoonheads and aww gently caress you've got me doing it now
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Spoonheads, Jemmies, Vorts, Snowsuiters, and especially the Wetnecks deserve all the hate they get.
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TrashMammal posted:if you could be loving all the time 24/7 would you say no to that? the real future Gene wanted
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Facebook Aunt posted:How would the borg ever encounter a founder? It isn't like every Vort and Jemmie know where the homeworld is. Most of them have never met a founder. If the borg happen to encounter a planet with a founder on it, the founder just turns into a squirrel and is entirely overlooked while it scampers out of scanner range. A ship is trickier since the whole thing is presumably within scanner range and the founder has to turn back into goo eventually, but even then they just order the jem to blow a hole in the hull so they can disguise themselves as a bit of debris and float away. once they find their first bucket, the chase is on
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"Hmm, what's GBS Trek up to tonight?" [list of space slurs] "Oh."
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Powered Descent posted:The line of dialogue didn't actually say that Worf's "close friend within the Link" was Odo, but it's so ridiculously obvious that Memory Alpha straight up says it was him. PIC had some weird stick up its butt with DS9 which came out with stuff like that. Makes one think that they were ordered to avoid using anything DS9-related in detail, because they sure weren't gun-shy on taking stuff from Voyager. But then again, its also possible that M'talas or PatStew just didn't know DS9 well enough so they avoided saying anything too definite about it.
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would pointy ears be a slur against vulcans or romulans?
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Der Kyhe posted:PIC had some weird stick up its butt with DS9 which came out with stuff like that. Makes one think that they were ordered to avoid using anything DS9-related in detail, because they sure weren't gun-shy on taking stuff from Voyager. Matalas was an acolyte of Brannon Braga so Voyager and Enterprise were the shows he is most familiar with, with TNG slotting in there somewhere from childhood viewing experience. So yeah DS9 was basically off away out of reach thanks to Berman and his weird mandates and poo poo.
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Feb 16, 2024 08:10
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Non Compos Mentis posted:would pointy ears be a slur against vulcans or romulans? Wow, McCoy was just a big old hella racist shithead, wasn't he?
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nine-gear crow posted:Wow, McCoy was just a big old hella racist shithead, wasn't he? Spock gave him the pass so he’s in the clear. It’s too late to revoke it after all
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Gutcruncher posted:Spock gave him the pass so he’s in the clear. It’s too late to revoke it after all Spock gave McCoy a G-word pass (the G stands for Greenblood) You don’t even need a racial slur for Klingons, just tell him he’s “without honor” and it will get the same effect.
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Do you think Andorian slurs for other species is always about skin colour and did they panic a little when they met Bolians?
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Kibayasu posted:Do you think Andorian slurs for other species is always about skin colour and did they panic a little when they met Bolians? Andorians are cobalt blue and Bolians are an inferior disgusting cerulean blue
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nine-gear crow posted:"Hmm, what's GBS Trek up to tonight?" *roused from being face down in his desk, roddenberryishly* MnAAHHHHh, the Irish!
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Kibayasu posted:Do you think Andorian slurs for other species is always about skin colour and did they panic a little when they met Bolians? Didn’t Shran call Mayweather “pinkskin” once and he was all “EXCUSE me???” e: Also, it’s been shown that Andorians have a range of skin colors, too, from bright blue to pale blue, white, even greenish. Same with Bolians.
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they probably have a derogatory term for races without head dealies
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I like to think Andorians judge each other by the size of their antennae.
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The Borg are no threat to Q, but his dumbass kid... His dumbass kid doesn't know anything, he might just stand there like an idiot and a drone tubules him in the neck from behind, game over
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Yeah not sure what the borg could do to the Q. I think the warning was more just because messing with the borg could cause them to do a bunch of stuff that they wouldn't of otherwise of done, and suddenly hundreds of civilizations are assimilated that wouldn't of been. Not a threat to the Q, just a sort of rear end in a top hat thing to do.
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Did Trek ever show a way/means to control Q? Some kind of "trans warp subspace interdimensional shield", or some such?
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The Borg didn't try to assimilate the founders because they were co-conspirators on the whole Picard Secret Cybernetic Cum Master Plan.
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redshirt posted:Did Trek ever show a way/means to control Q? Some kind of "trans warp subspace interdimensional shield", or some such? Besides that "El-Aurians can shake a bottle to make Q show up"-trick, none. They do hint that Q powers do not work on El-Aurians that well, or attacking them affects also the Q continuum so they are stuck with each other, but it doesn't go beyond that.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:How confusing is it to the Ferengi that the federation's flagship is named after capitalism Ferengi definitely think we’re galaxy class junkie dipshits that hosed up capitalism so bad we almost ended all life on our planet, and space socialism is like our AA that we won’t shut up about.
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Der Kyhe posted:Besides that "El-Aurians can shake a bottle to make Q show up"-trick, none. Yeah wisely I don't think they ever go into what the exact deal is between El-Aurians and the Q, but as El-Aurians also seem to be able to sense things changing with timelines and such they clearly have something going on. Other than that, I think only other beings that can change reality would be of any threat to the Q. The never go into how Q's powers work but it never seems like any shields/subspace whatnot would have any affect on them. That still stuff in the universe which they can just change whenever they want.
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dr_rat posted:Yeah not sure what the borg could do to the Q. I think the warning was more just because messing with the borg could cause them to do a bunch of stuff that they wouldn't of otherwise of done, and suddenly hundreds of civilizations are assimilated that wouldn't of been. Not a threat to the Q, just a sort of rear end in a top hat thing to do. According to Picard Season 2, the Borg assimilated the knowledge of how to summon a Q using an alcohol bottle
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Actual Satan posted:According to Picard Season 2, the Borg assimilated the knowledge of how to summon a Q using an alcohol bottle That was obviously Q just just messing with everyone to make people think that Picard season 2 actually existed.
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dr_rat posted:That was obviously Q just just messing with everyone to make people think that Picard season 2 actually existed. 
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Klingons discover Starfleet Academy's psych test for the first time. "In the name of Kahless, that's messed up. Why can't they just hit them with pain sticks like civilised beings?"
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Was watching Enterprise when T'Pol's rear end is shown on screen, mid-late S3 right before she and Trip furthered Vulcan-Human relations. Caught me by surprise as I don't remember seeing any butt in ST before. S3 is interesting because it does have a lot bad episodes but the ones that stick closely with the find the Xindi and stop the superweapon are for the most part solid. Shran shows up which is always good.
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I really dislike the ways they treated Jeri Ryan and Jolene Blalock, costume wise. It was completely unnecessary! Heterosexual males will objectify any attractive woman, you don’t have to put them in skintight catsuits that restrict their breathing! We’re horrible on our own!
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Nigmaetcetera posted:I really dislike the ways they treated Jeri Ryan and Jolene Blalock, costume wise. It was completely unnecessary! Heterosexual males will objectify any attractive woman, you don’t have to put them in skintight catsuits that restrict their breathing! We’re horrible on our own! If you want something damning, there's MULTIPLE "Bad Future" episodes where T'Pol is in Starfleet and has a proper uniform. She does not have a uniform when she actually joins Starfleet. Also Linda Park gets objectified just as much. The episode on the derelict Klingon ship has her and Jolene just peeling off layers over time for no reason other than objectification. Or losing her top after the vent crawl.
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