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Science_enthusiast posted:Thanks but this is what i mean, they sort of contradict eachother. Like does it matter what company/ squad each unit is? (Outside of death company)  Obviously this doesn't matter in game, and primaris marines make it more complicated, but that's the org chart E: also that mini is great! StashAugustine fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Feb 15, 2024 |
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The only important part for Blood Angels is the appropriate helm colours for battlefield role and the black shoulders on sergeants. Company and squad is for when you really want to RP each of your dudes as Brother Fangulus, 3rd Squad, 5th Company.
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Science_enthusiast posted:Thanks but this is what i mean, they sort of contradict eachother. Like does it matter what company/ squad each unit is? (Outside of death company) Yes, everyone will laugh at you if your captains have blue helmets instead of gold ones or there's two drops on the kneepad of a sergeant. In reality, it doesn't really make a difference as most of the time no one will notice or care. It's way more loose and free form than Napoleonics. Come up with a system you like, have it make sense in a way, and do it to make you happy. Use the guides there in the codex as inspiration to make your own system that follows your own logic and is fun for you to do. You could do groupings by company as in the codex, or by general battlefield role (shock troop vs heavy weapons vs scouts etc) or whatever internal logic you have.
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Feb 15, 2024 21:13
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Yeah I guess if you wanna make it a bit more complicated give them all the same 1-2 company markings and each unit gets different knee pads E: and yeah tbc this doesn't actually matter at all, but I'm still personally mad at myself because the second models I ever painted were star wars commandos and I used the wrong color for the Correlian bloodstripe. If that doesn't bother you, go hog wild
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Science_enthusiast posted:Thanks but this is what i mean, they sort of contradict eachother. Like does it matter what company/ squad each unit is? (Outside of death company) No it’s up to you. I made my BA a custom successor chapter mentioned upthread and updated them after leaving the game for a while when I got back in with Leviathan. They wear white armour with red shoulder pads and use a mix of generic space marine, BA, and my own markings from both pre and post primaris lore depending on what I like. Nobody will care what markings you use, it’s all up to you. The funnest way imo is to pick from the standard canon markings and vary it out, so say your base tactical squads will have x markings, your jump packs y, then your bikes z bc they aren’t from your Captain’s company, they are reinforcements from the close support reserve company, or so on. Even if you want your dudes to be canon Blood Angels from the founding chapter, maybe they have different markings from some time spent somewhere else or from being in a time GW hasn’t detailed out. I prefer painting up the stock six tac/two close support/two heavy support before having any basic infantry types be from a different company, but lorewise it’s fine to have just one squad from the same company as the captain or lietenant if you even have one, then one loaned from a different battle line company, then two tw reserve company squads, and so on. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Feb 15, 2024 |
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Feb 15, 2024 21:15
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Thanks guys, im just going to pick whatever then lol- Here is my test guy: 
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They even have specific "paint whatever you want" carve outs in official chapters like the White Scars markings that are described as "so personal only the bearer knows what they mean" or Dark Angels having coded symbols and phrases that are so secret other Dark Angels might not know what they mean. There are so many Black Templars and they are so decentralized they say that individual crusades end up doing their own colour scheme and symbols over time.
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Feb 15, 2024 21:46
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They all look like space marines to me.
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I looked up how to translate cool sounding things I stole from AC Valhalla into runic script and then added those as decorations on my space wolves. I thought it would be fun to have a couple dudes like their chain swords so much that they wrote the word for "buddy" on them
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Science_enthusiast posted:Thanks but this is what i mean, they sort of contradict eachother. Like does it matter what company/ squad each unit is? (Outside of death company) It's entirely personal choice
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Science_enthusiast posted:Thanks guys, im just going to pick whatever then lol- Looks amazing! But yeah, I use reversed shoulderpad colors for my retributors even though that's not an official thing. Just a lore-neutral way to distinguish them when setting my squads up.
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protomexican posted:I know it's fire, but my eyes read it as fingers in the stereotypical Italian pose. "That's a spicy warpball!" My test armatures were all flipping me off.  (BTW I don't think I have this mastered well enough to make an effortpost about my process but the upward facing hooks were a bad idea. They should be straight out from the wrists I think.)
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Science_enthusiast posted:Thanks guys, im just going to pick whatever then lol- Very dope. Man I want to see someone's 100% lore accurate Blood Angels now.
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Cease to Hope posted:My test armatures were all flipping me off. You should probably have a small ball of greenstuff attached to the head and hands via the armature wire to act as a body for the flames before sculpting the actual flames on top of it. I find it quite hard to sculpt something which has both volume and a lot of texture (like flames) in a single go - the underlying volume gets distorted too much as you push and pull for the texture. I assume you're going for the 'burning marine' look like from that HH art?
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Z the IVth posted:You should probably have a small ball of greenstuff attached to the head and hands via the armature wire to act as a body for the flames before sculpting the actual flames on top of it. I find it quite hard to sculpt something which has both volume and a lot of texture (like flames) in a single go - the underlying volume gets distorted too much as you push and pull for the texture. This is actually the opposite of the evolution of my process! For these first guys, I started with a putty bead "head" and built the flames around it. The newer guys, who I'm quite happy with, were sculpted from a single sphere applied directly to the armature. I'm now sculpting the flames as chunky wisps, which I weave together, reshape a little with tools, then add a few more smaller details. I'm not sure what 30K art you're talking about. I don't think I was emulating anything in particular, not consciously. The main thing was looking at Deadly Print models and thinking, "Huh. Maybe I could learn to do that myself."
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Windowshopping between events during a visit to an equally nerdy friend (sadly, not a goon) and I noticed the "Generic Space Marine" patrol seems to have just ten guys plus two officers and a knee mortar. This seems kind of crappy compared to the other Space Marine chapter combat patrols, which also seem to be chock full of these new "Primaris" guys. Is the generic Space Marine one just the newbie trap option or something?
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Some combat patrol boxes are worse than others, sometimes a lot. Games-workshop has the excuse of "all combat patrols are balanced for the game format, and isn't that what really counts?" So yeah.
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The thing is Combat Patrols are more balanced monetarily on GW's side than any real game balance as much as they might pretend to. And the Space Marine Combat Patrol isn't even that particularly great value since for the same price you could get the 40k Starter + terminator librarian for the same marines and (most of) a tyranid combat patrol.
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Dark Angels are losing their super good Combat Patrol in favour of a super crappy Combat Patrol soon too.
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I and my LGS get GW stuff via a third party shipping out of the UAE, no one wants to ship to Kazakhstan, so I havent looked at the new and improved shithole of an official online store in a while. I checked to see if the space marine combat patrol was that bad, and learned that the in stock things to ship here are italian-codex deathwing boxes and japanese necron codexes. If anyone wants to pay scalper prices plus shipping for those hit me up
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darnon posted:The thing is Combat Patrols are more balanced monetarily on GW's side than any real game balance as much as they might pretend to. And the Space Marine Combat Patrol isn't even that particularly great value since for the same price you could get the 40k Starter + terminator librarian for the same marines and (most of) a tyranid combat patrol.
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Decided to do a bit of kitbashing and use up some resin bits, and build myself an Emperor's Spears Kill Team! (I want to find a Fragstorm Grenade Launcher off someone who did their Aggressors as Flamers, so I can mount that on the backpack of the far right guy and give him an Auto Bolt Rifle.)  Assault Intercessor Seargant (Plasma Pistol) Assault Intercessor Grenadier Assault Intercessor (Purity Seals, the Eviscerator big boy) Intercessor with Auto Bolt Rifle & Combat Blade (General skirmisher) Intercessor with Bolt Rifle, Vengeance Scope & Reclusiam Bolts (Sniper) Intercessor Gunner with Bolt Rifle, Aux Grenade Launcher (HWG) Shockeh fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Feb 16, 2024 |
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Cease to Hope posted:This is actually the opposite of the evolution of my process! For these first guys, I started with a putty bead "head" and built the flames around it. The newer guys, who I'm quite happy with, were sculpted from a single sphere applied directly to the armature. I'm now sculpting the flames as chunky wisps, which I weave together, reshape a little with tools, then add a few more smaller details.  This fella.
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Z the IVth posted:
oh, neat! nope, nothing that complicated. just figured flame was more interesting than dust and flamers. plus the egyptian sarcophagus TS look does absolutely nothing for me.
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Eej posted:They even have specific "paint whatever you want" carve outs in official chapters like the White Scars markings that are described as "so personal only the bearer knows what they mean" or Dark Angels having coded symbols and phrases that are so secret other Dark Angels might not know what they mean. There are so many Black Templars and they are so decentralized they say that individual crusades end up doing their own colour scheme and symbols over time. There are also campaign specific armor schemes. Like for the Badab War some chapters had custom schemes. So you can say "these are my Ultramarines in the urban camo scheme they used while storming the gates of Getoffmydick Secundus in M40.20"
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If you google "Bantax Campaign" literally all the website and image search results are one guy posting his entire mustard coloured Blood Angels army piece by piece on reddit. You too can own an entire phrase on google if you try hard enough.
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Let none forget the Fighting Tigers of Veda https://fightingtigersofveda.com/2022/08/the-fighting-tigers-of-veda-overview/  e: they seem to have left behind the cringey power-armour tiddies and and WHFB horse tail topknots, but kept the radical tiger stripes I'm taking notes on for my future EC Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Feb 16, 2024 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Let none forget the Fighting Tigers of Veda quote:In closing, I must address a long-standing fallacy pertaining to the Fighting Tigers of Veda: namely, that the Chapter includes “female Space Marines.” This is, of course, impossible, as it is well known that all Adeptus Astartes must be male, because the geneseed zygotes used to transform recruits from ordinary humans into Space Marines are keyed to male hormones and genetic structure. lmao
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Wasn't it Doc Thunder who famously had the massive marine boobs?
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Ayup, and even some Shock Troopers too. No idea if they ever went beyond the WIP stage or not.
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quote:In closing, I must address a long-standing fallacy pertaining to the Fighting Tigers of Veda: namely, that the Chapter includes “female Space Marines.” This is, of course, impossible, as it is well known that all Adeptus Astartes must be male, because the geneseed zygotes used to transform recruits from ordinary humans into Space Marines are keyed to male hormones and genetic structure. Reads like something someone who secretly has an entire Chapter of Female Space Marines would say.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Let none forget the Fighting Tigers of Veda When I clicked through to that blog I assumed based on how it looked that it must be quite old. I was surprised to see that it is only a few years old, I would not have imagined it being from this decade, or perhaps even this century.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:When I clicked through to that blog I assumed based on how it looked that it must be quite old. I was surprised to see that it is only a few years old, I would not have imagined it being from this decade, or perhaps even this century. It's been around for a hot minute but looks like the author revamped it at aome point. I kinda want to do something similar for my own forces one day, but I've yet to take the plunge
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Let none forget the Fighting Tigers of Veda absolute psychopath, pairing goblin green base rims with static grass.
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moths posted:Wasn't it Doc Thunder who famously had the massive marine boobs? Oh god that name gives me flashbacks, it was def Doc Thunder who did the horse tail topknot marines right? Also to be clear I am not knocking the 110% fully dudes and dudes only Fighting Tigers, they rock. They def used to have Mark XX Bikini Plate though.
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I have a memory of this marine with dual pony tails on a modified Khorne Berserker helmet and these absolutely massive transhuman tits. That has to be Doc T.
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Somewhat happy with my first Plasmancer.  Still seeing mistakes but I promised myself I wouldn’t play again until I paint my 2k list and at this point I need to pick up the pace a bit.
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Shockeh posted:(I want to find a Fragstorm Grenade Launcher off someone who did their Aggressors as Flamers, so I can mount that on the backpack of the far right guy and give him an Auto Bolt Rifle.) Quoting myself, but if anyone has one of these, I will happily buy it off you, give you goonlove(tm), and it's such a tiny piece with no breakable bits it'll just go in an envelope.
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moths posted:I have a memory of this marine with dual pony tails on a modified Khorne Berserker helmet and these absolutely massive transhuman tits.  Venture forth, if you have the courage
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