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Ivan Prisypkin posted:RE: Neo-space feudalism, I was listening to Yanis Varouvakis's latest book talk and his case that Amazon's business model is a new form of "technofeudalism" focused on rent-seeking over profit in a way that he argues abandons capitalism altogether for a desire to control entire markets. The concept that the old aristocracy and new money capitalists would converge isn't particularly new. It's not heavily emphasized, but the space feudalism in Dune(which absolutely influenced BT) likely grew out of corporate consolidation. The Atreides get Arrakis as a fiefdom, as well as shares of and a directorship in The One Company That Makes and Sells Everything.
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Amechwarrior posted:I've seen people that have those clear plastic organizers for stuff like screws or fishing tackle. They put 20 pairs of mini 2d6 and just shake the entire box. Just read out from 1 to whatever number you need for any cluster attacks. This is the correct way to do it in physical format.
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LaSquida posted:what app do you use for this? https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mechhitting/id911680048 Ivan Prisypkin posted:…and if you're rich, blood. So white mechs or red mechs are the cheapest to paint…  Uh, greetings, fellow Capellan.
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Ivan Prisypkin posted:RE: Neo-space feudalism, I was listening to Yanis Varouvakis's latest book talk and his case that Amazon's business model is a new form of "technofeudalism" focused on rent-seeking over profit in a way that he argues abandons capitalism altogether for a desire to control entire markets.
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I hope nobody here's actually advocating for corporate feudalism IRL. It has funny haha moments in satire and fantasy and whatever, but it's also caused very real degradation in cultures with limited access to ameliorating influences (positive social outlets not compromised by said corpos). Thread chat is getting weirdIvan Prisypkin posted:Even then are there paint factories on every planet? Without it you're conceivably stuck with what people most commonly painted barns with: linseed oil, lime, skim milk, rust, and if you're rich, blood. So white mechs or red mechs are the cheapest to paint unless you wanna spring for fancy pigments. Maybe bare corrosion-proof space-metal too. Naturally painted 'Mechs is amusing but BT at least has the sense at this point to have spelled out that worlds of a certain technology level or higher already can provide (or import, or even export) essential goods to create whatever that tech level consists of. Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Feb 17, 2024 |
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If you haven't seen it, you owe it to yourself to watch Sorry to Bother You. It is the definitive film on corporate feudalism.
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Amechwarrior posted:I've seen people that have those clear plastic organizers for stuff like screws or fishing tackle. They put 20 pairs of mini 2d6 and just shake the entire box. Just read out from 1 to whatever number you need for any cluster attacks. Yep. Guy had an organizer with 24 pairs of different-colored dice with a label on each section. It was smart, but you had to watch him because he wanted to shake it just once per turn and just count off his rolls. Nuh-unh, fucker.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:I hope nobody here's actually advocating for corporate feudalism IRL. It has funny haha moments in satire and fantasy and whatever, but it's also caused very real degradation in cultures with limited access to ameliorating influences (positive social outlets not compromised by said corpos). Thread chat is getting weird Yeah I think its completely absurd concept. don't want to derail so here's a youtube video by the guy pointing out our global economy is ominously heading that way. Thanks for recommendation!! looks good. Revvik posted:https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mechhitting/id911680048 Farmers used pigs blood! Gives a barn that deep red color. I guess if you're Capellan you make do. If it's Lyran is it blue? As for Battletech itself, I've been playing a lot of games of Hexed Alpha Strike with a simulated opponent using Brym's Opfor (fan simulated opponent like Battletech Aces). Pretty fun to just test out mechs and compositions. Here's a skirmish over some refinery/SC2 building complex between a security force and some raiders who have Clanners in tow(bondsmen? exiles? who knows?)   
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:I hope nobody here's actually advocating for corporate feudalism IRL. It has funny haha moments in satire and fantasy and whatever, but it's also caused very real degradation in cultures with limited access to ameliorating influences (positive social outlets not compromised by said corpos). Thread chat is getting weird Yeah, no one's advocating for it man, and the BattleTech setting's entire premise is that the current system all the Great Houses run under is a far cry from the heydeys of humanity, mostly because of that system. But in a thread about BT, sometimes people might make funny joke about it, or our society stupidly heading that way because individuals have a hard time seeing the big picture and how small costs in their lives lead to big benefits for all of society. I guarantee you I wouldn't be a teacher if I was hoping techno/corporate feudalism was the future. Ivan Prisypkin posted:As for Battletech itself, I've been playing a lot of games of Hexed Alpha Strike with a simulated opponent using Brym's Opfor (fan simulated opponent like Battletech Aces). Pretty fun to just test out mechs and compositions. That Black Knight is awesome. Love the bulky Black Knight from Dark Age.
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Yeah, no one's advocating for it man, and the BattleTech setting's entire premise is that the current system all the Great Houses run under is a far cry from the heydeys of humanity, mostly because of that system. But in a thread about BT, sometimes people might make funny joke about it, or our society stupidly heading that way because individuals have a hard time seeing the big picture and how small costs in their lives lead to big benefits for all of society. Yeah, much like social-generals, there's hilarity to be found in distance and particular cases, but nothing we would want to live next to.
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Ivan Prisypkin posted:and if you're rich, blood. Or if you’re a reaver! 
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I struggle to keep all the targeting rules in my head, and sometimes make mistakes adding things up, so I've been working on building my own GATORB-aid. Still not done, I want to adjust the design so it curls less, I should have painted the word BATTLETECH black, and I want to keep this same form factor but make the cutouts bigger for larger dice, so maybe shrink the font? But shrinking the text will make it harder to paint the text. It's good enough for my next games, at least.
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Looks good, though the "Adjacent -2" should probably be moved down under "Prone +1" to be less misleading. Since the -2 is prone AND adjacent, after all.
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Whats the scariest mech to face out of these? Berserker-C3 (MASC w/TSM) , Caesar-5D (4/5(7) hardened armor w/TSM), Charger-C (5/8(13), MASC/Supercharger) Looking for a scary distraction carnifex type to take point with the rest of this lance- Banshee 3Q Sagittaire 10X Exterminator 7X
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Why is the Exterminator in this lance? The BV from that is better off spent on two pointmen, instead of one.
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Probably the Berserker. Unless your opponent has seen a Charger C before, they'll discount it because it's a charger; and a 70 tonner just isn't as intimidating as a 100 tonner.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Probably the Berserker. Unless your opponent has seen a Charger C before, they'll discount it because it's a charger; and a 70 tonner just isn't as intimidating as a 100 tonner. 80 tonner. Also 80 tonners max out engines at 400 XL/XXLs, so they're the maximum tonnage possible to do the most physical weapon damage, without relying on speed boosters to break even on AMM vs. TMM. Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Feb 22, 2024 |
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A charger is going to make you stand on a hill so that it can't charge you. A Berserker doesn't care that you're on a hill.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:80 tonner. Also 80 tonners max out engines at 400 XL/XXLs, so they're the maximum tonnage possible to do the most physical weapon damage, without relying on speed boosters to break even on AMM vs. TMM.
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That Charger in particular will probably go under the radar until you hit the gas and put 40 points of damage into something your opponent thought was safe, and then it will be the most hunted mech on he table.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:80 tonner. Also 80 tonners max out engines at 400 XL/XXLs, so they're the maximum tonnage possible to do the most physical weapon damage, without relying on speed boosters to break even on AMM vs. TMM. I was talking about the Caesar in the second bit.
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Strobe posted:That Charger in particular will probably go under the radar until you hit the gas and put 40 points of damage into something your opponent thought was safe, and then it will be the most hunted mech on he table. I'm really happy I have an old metal one to field as it someday. "Nobody wants the charger from this lot, it's a bad mech", indeed.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Why is the Exterminator in this lance? The BV from that is better off spent on two pointmen, instead of one. It seemed good. I love VSPLs. Don't have the BV to replace it with 2 of anything other than lights Berserker I figured is the safe option. 100 tonner that can run 8 and kick you for 40. Charger I've never used, but it seems scary. Ferro-lam, runs 13(!), heavy medium lasers. The Caesar also has TSM, talons, and hardened armor. Runs 7 but can kick you for 42(?) with TSM (7 * 2) for kick * 2 for TSM, * 1.5 for Talon ? Plus clan spec weapons. ERPPC + HAG20 Saint Celestine fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Feb 22, 2024 |
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That Exterminator has one of the most elegant heat curves I've ever had the pleasure of puzzling out, it's a really cool mech.
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Saint Celestine posted:It seemed good. I love VSPLs. Don't have the BV to replace it with 2 of anything other than lights Strobe posted:That Exterminator has one of the most elegant heat curves I've ever had the pleasure of puzzling out, it's a really cool mech. Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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Saint Celestine posted:It seemed good. I love VSPLs. Don't have the BV to replace it with 2 of anything other than lights Correct calculation for the CES-5D's Talons is 70/5 Kick = 14, 14 * 2 TSM = 28, 28 * 1.5 Talon = 42 points, and that math can be done in any order since there's no addition/subtraction. The problem with that variant is that Hardened Armor gives you a disadvantage with +1 Piloting, which affects kicks and missed kicks of course, but more importantly affects 4/5 pilots needing a 7 to not fall on 20+ points of damage. For clarity, Hardened Armor causes this PSR at 20 points of damage, regardless of how many full armor circles are actually removed. Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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I thought that similar to Small Cockpits, the Hardened Armor +1 piloting skill target modifier only applied to actual PSRs (to stay standing and avoid damage and such) and not melee attacks. Is that not so?
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Correct calculation for the CES-5D's Talons is 70/5 Kick = 14, 14 * 2 TSM = 28, 28 * 1.5 Talon = 42 points, and that math can be done in any order since there's no addition/subtraction. Ok that puts things into perspective a bit. I didn't realize it was 20 points of damage before the hardened armor. Bumping the piloting up makes it like a 4k BV mech. Will probably go with the berserker then.
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Yeah I don't know if the Caesar is actually worth the BV but it certainly is spectacular. I wasn't disappointed when I've taken it a couple of times. A lot of 'mechs just plain aren't going to have legs after it kicks them. edit: The original TSG-9H Ti Ts'ang is probably a better value as a TSM 'mech, at less than two-thirds the BV. It's far easier to reach and maintain 9 heat and is faster, although the hatchet doesn't hurt as badly as the talons. BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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Are there any canonical training Mechs in the IS besides the Chameleon and Crockett? Trying to make a full 5000BV lance
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Saint Celestine posted:Ok that puts things into perspective a bit. I didn't realize it was 20 points of damage before the hardened armor. Bumping the piloting up makes it like a 4k BV mech. Will probably go with the berserker then. No, it is definitely 20 pips removed. https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=33515.msg1415839#msg1415839
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GD_American posted:Are there any canonical training Mechs in the IS besides the Chameleon and Crockett? Trying to make a full 5000BV lance Pretty sure I've heard of the Stinger being used as a trainer, though the other bugmechs are also prolific enough to serve as a babby mechwarrior's first ride.
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Strobe posted:No, it is definitely 20 pips removed. BattleMaster posted:I thought that similar to Small Cockpits, the Hardened Armor +1 piloting skill target modifier only applied to actual PSRs (to stay standing and avoid damage and such) and not melee attacks. Is that not so? I think the equipment that really gives Piloting bonuses conditionally are AES in arms and AES in legs. Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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MegaMek doesn't apply Small Cockpit or Hardened Armor's penalty to melee attacks, giving these 5 piloting skill pilots kick targets of 3.  I get that MegaMek isn't always the arbiter of what is correct or not, but I am pretty confident it is handlnig this correct - things that apply penalties to piloting skill rolls affect only piloting skill rolls and not melee attacks. Melee attacks use the piloting skill as a base target number, but they are not themselves piloting skill rolls.
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Here's the actual rule from TW: The +1 to piloting skill rolls for Small Cockpits is in the PSR table:  And the thing is, not a single one of the items in that table apply to physical attacks. The small cockpit modifier does not show up in the attack modifier table, which is where the things that apply to attacks, including physical attacks, are presented. So small cockpits do not affect physical attacks. I am certain from the wording of Hardened Armor's rules that it works the same way:  edit: Also looks like Ghost Targets is just piloting skill +3 with no other modifiers: 
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Entire page of this thread has me being wrong 5 times in the past day. I am sorry for ever posting, you can safely add me to your ignore listStrobe posted:That Exterminator has one of the most elegant heat curves I've ever had the pleasure of puzzling out, it's a really cool mech.
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GD_American posted:Are there any canonical training Mechs in the IS besides the Chameleon and Crockett? Trying to make a full 5000BV lance The Valkyrie is used for training in the AFFS, partly because they are absolutely everywhere in that army so training them in one is a good head start. Coventry had training Hauptmanns from CMW, one of the feathers in their cap was that they were the first academy to make sure their graduates were all familiar with driving and working on Omnis.
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