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outhole surfer posted:ohio is a solid conversation terminator what in the bluegrass hell is going on over here
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lord fifth posted:offer get they just sent me the number and it's ... low. less than i made last summer and less than i would make at the company ive currently signed to. but the work lines up slightly better with my interests and goals for my career gotta think about this one. i certainly dont think it's worth trying to minmax compensation for an internship, though
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internship money is comparatively very low to what you're going to be making later in your career yeah, the resume-impact and career alignment are going to be way more important. as long as they've got your housing covered I'd go w/ what's in your gut.
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CarForumPoster posted:it could just be small talk to find common ground, shared experiences there's a lot of regular small talk stuff that you should not ask about in a job interview, though. people talk about kids all the time but an interviewer can't ask about anything that might be getting a signal on if someone's planning on taking parental leave, for instance KidDynamite posted:those were my thoughts as well. mention it in a friendly way if they become my coworker. 
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GenJoe posted:internship money is comparatively very low to what you're going to be making later in your career yeah, the resume-impact and career alignment are going to be way more important. as long as they've got your housing covered I'd go w/ what's in your gut. yeah. also im pretty sure the place ive signed to previously isn't actually profitable and is just running on their incredible stock performance (and therefore they have no 401k match). they've also been a meme for probably about a decade and a half now .... compared to working for a company that prints money and doesn't lay off
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Feb 16, 2024 21:20
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GenJoe posted:internship money is comparatively very low to what you're going to be making later in your career yeah, the resume-impact and career alignment are going to be way more important. as long as they've got your housing covered I'd go w/ what's in your gut. 
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well it looks like i helped hire my new soon to be coworker. he seems nice. its been 2 years since i last worked with another developer so hopefully things work out.
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Feb 16, 2024 21:24
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lord fifth posted:they just sent me the number and it's ... low. less than i made last summer and less than i would make at the company ive currently signed to. but the work lines up slightly better with my interests and goals for my career
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Feb 16, 2024 21:29
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lord fifth posted:compared to working for a company that prints money and doesn't lay off they definitely lay off. not a thousands like other places but they did layoffs last year.
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Feb 16, 2024 21:34
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FMguru posted:san diego is famous for having bay area cost of living but omaha salaries what we are saying LF is rent an apartment in tijuana
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Feb 16, 2024 21:48
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lord fifth posted:they just sent me the number and it's ... low. less than i made last summer and less than i would make at the company ive currently signed to. but the work lines up slightly better with my interests and goals for my career you're in a position where it is for sure hard to push for a bigger number, but you should at least *try* to push. gather some info on cost of living and use that as a motivation, more for yourself than it is for them, if you prefer.
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Feb 16, 2024 22:35
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my recruiter was adamant that this is the very top of the pay range and i should be very happy. but i'll push back a little more since i really like the opportunity compared to what i have lined up (worlds most dunked on database company)
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Feb 16, 2024 22:58
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lord fifth posted:my recruiter was adamant that this is the very top of the pay range and i should be very happy. but i'll push back a little more since i really like the opportunity compared to what i have lined up (worlds most dunked on database company) that is real good opsec as you'd have to keep specifying for a very long time before i have any idea what company that is
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Feb 16, 2024 23:01
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mongo or oracle. i bet, based upon lord fifth's unerring gift for finding internships with human scum, it's oracle actually now that i actually read it maybe it's mongo, oracle fuckin prints
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Feb 16, 2024 23:02
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lord fifth posted:my recruiter was adamant that this is the very top of the pay range and i should be very happy. but i'll push back a little more since i really like the opportunity compared to what i have lined up (worlds most dunked on database company) do not work for oracle or mongodb. do try san diego, it's Good
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gently caress, apparently i alone am the person who does not know the dunking hierarchy of db companies. otoh i am aware of rather many but have somehow never touched either oracle or mongodb
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Feb 16, 2024 23:07
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bob dobbs is dead posted:mongo or oracle. i bet, based upon lord fifth's unerring gift for finding internships with human scum, it's oracle idk i've met some ex-oracle engineers who werent getting paid much
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Feb 16, 2024 23:10
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i retired a service that ran mongo once and that's the only time i've touched it. about as good a thing as you can do with any tech tbh
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Feb 16, 2024 23:12
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Truman Peyote posted:i retired a service that ran mongo once and that's the only time i've touched it. about as good a thing as you can do with any tech tbh same and agreed the service I retired had both mongo AND redis AND mysql in some sort of hosed up data daisychain
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yeah it’s either oracle or mongo. as someone who started their career with oracle: it’s a fine place to cut your teeth as long as you don’t get some weird stockholm syndrome attachment to them. you’ll want to be leaving that place after a couple years for greener pastures
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to clear my name i would like it to be known that never in my life have i considered applying for a job at oracle corporation
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Feb 16, 2024 23:30
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lord fifth posted:to clear my name i would like it to be known that never in my life have i considered applying for a job at oracle corporation oh. oh no. this is the wrong denial in this context.
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Feb 16, 2024 23:31
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oracle folks I've met usually get paid quite well on initial offer and then never get anything more than a 0.5% raise while they are there. ymmv etc.
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Trimson Grondag 3 posted:oracle folks I've met usually get paid quite well on initial offer and then never get anything more than a 0.5% raise while they are there. ymmv etc. yyup
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lord fifth posted:to clear my name i would like it to be known that never in my life have i considered applying for a job at oracle corporation qualcomm is just as bad
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good thing i have also never in my life applied to qualcomm 
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lord fifth posted:my recruiter was adamant that this is the very top of the pay range and i should be very happy. but i'll push back a little more since i really like the opportunity compared to what i have lined up (worlds most dunked on database company) all recruiters lie constantly about this stuff. once i countered an offer at like 4% higher and the guy was like "aw jeez i've never heard of us doing anything like that, i'll see what i can do i guess, but don't hold your breath..."
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rotor posted:idk i've met some ex-oracle engineers who werent getting paid much yeah they weren't in the cost generation centers (legal)
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raminasi posted:all recruiters lie constantly about this stuff. once i countered an offer at like 4% higher and the guy was like "aw jeez i've never heard of us doing anything like that, i'll see what i can do i guess, but don't hold your breath..."
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commission things, the most important thing is dealflow, not the strong commission on each deal. easier and better to get 3 5k-commission deals done than squeeze 1 5k-commision deal to 7k. if this is against the corp's interests peeps will do accelerators and poo poo like that but it's not in this case
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rotor posted:same and agreed we got a big ol bloated java web app using kafka postgres scylla redis and cassandra  thank god i dont gotta touch that thing
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post hole digger posted:we got a big ol bloated java web app using kafka postgres scylla redis and cassandra wow
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post hole digger posted:we got a big ol bloated java web app using kafka postgres scylla redis and cassandra I'm going to edge in on ellie's territory for a moment to recommend that you fake your death and move to belize
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post hole digger posted:we got a big ol bloated java web app using kafka postgres scylla redis and cassandra i bet the guys that came up with your architecture are big brained geniuses
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for an internship position at a FAANG i think you're going to have absoluetly zero leverage negotiating an internship salary
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lord fifth posted:they just sent me the number and it's ... low. less than i made last summer and less than i would make at the company ive currently signed to. but the work lines up slightly better with my interests and goals for my career always take the loving money lol
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why work? for the pay
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PokeJoe posted:always take the loving money lol this is for an internship. the money directly coming out of it is completely insignificant compared to the lifetime earning's of one's career, which may be greatly impacted by the work content and company of the internships one chose.
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also wrt to maximizing pay over all else: in the best case you're going to be spending something like 40% of your work week at your job. taking one that has interesting problems, lets you use good tooling, has good coworkers, etc are all things that are probably worth some monetary value for your mental well-being.
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I thought filthy boy was moving to a real job but regardless even a well paying internship will support your confidence to tell a low-ball offer to suck eggs
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