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Synesthesian Fetish posted:If he loses his NJ properties what happens to Ivana's remains? I'm assuming they come with the property. It'd be funny if registering a property as a cemetery offers it some protections against seizure.
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BrigadierSensible posted:An actual lol is that Trump is yet to throw his lawyers under the bus yet, The big thing I've come to believe about Trump is that he grew up in a white collar mob boss household, and has no idea what laws and crime actually are. Fred taught him to do as the lawyer says, which mostly means shutting up when told to shut up, and occasionally paying an insultingly small settlement while admitting no guilt if you've done something egregious enough that they can't magic it away entirely. He does not understand that this isn't actually how the law works, that he inherited an entire infrastructure designed to shield him from the consequences of his own actions, and he thought he had found a big brain genius loophole when he stopped paying the expensive lawyers who told him not to do the things he wanted to do, and replaced them with idiot sycophants. He still follows the advice of his lawyers, who, as he understands it, are the actual arbiters of law. That's why he keeps making constant affirmations of "presidential records act," "ironclad disclaimer clause," "perfect phone call," et cetera et cetera, because those are things lawyers told him. Anyone who accuses him of wrongdoing must be either unaware or maliciously disregarding the law in service of an ulterior motive. The thought that his lawyers could be fallible or incompetent would upend his entire worldview. If he ever turns on them, it will be because he thinks they're deliberaly sabotaging him, not because he's burned all his competent mob lawyers and can only afford the clown car selection.
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 13:04 |
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BrigadierSensible posted:We all laugh at Tiffany for being the forgotten child of his least favorite wife. Lol, she married an actual billionaire-in-waiting, she's parachuted herself far far away from all the Trump dirt
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:Just tamping down on expectations on how hosed Trump is here or what this would mean for the RNC. well stop it
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 13:12 |
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dr_rat posted:Nope, this is all state stuff. Presidents can only pardon Federal crimes. ok cool
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 13:15 |
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:Just tamping down on expectations on how hosed Trump is here or what this would mean for the RNC.
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dr_rat posted:Nope, this is all state stuff. Presidents can only pardon Federal crimes.
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-trump-raise-the-settlement comments continue to entertain.$333 donor posted:Donald Trump is the only hope for the human race. Say no to the reptilians! Vote human, vote Trump! and one person used $5 to say gently caress trump, which is entertaining but obviously the wrong place to put money 5$ donor (Ivan Moore) posted:I paid $5 for the privilege of saying that Donald Trump is a conman, a serial sexual abuser and an insurrectionist scumbag. All of you who seriously contribute money to this man are brainwashed cult members. Trump is a danger to democracy and this country. which incited (lol) other 5$ donor posted:Ivan Moore is the perfect example of how brainwashed people really are in this country. Donald Trump is the greatest President ever, period. His accomplishments while being harassed at every turn speak volumes for his character and commitment to the American people. Thank you. Proud to say I support Donald Trump! notwithoutmyanus fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Feb 17, 2024 |
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Fabulousity posted:If she divorces does she get to keep the Secret Service detail tail? If she divorces him she will move to the UK or EU. I am pretty sure she is sick of this country.
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Raged posted:If she divorces him she will move to the UK or EU. I am pretty sure she is sick of this country. Pretty sure no one will care, other than hoping that if that happens she takes donald for everything he has left before she goes.
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 13:31 |
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https://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-addresses-2-billion-given-saudis-1869757 "Are we really still doing this?" Kushner said during a live interview at the Axios BFD summit in Miami when he was asked if he believed that the Saudi crown prince was responsible for the killing. "I know the person who I dealt with. I think he's a visionary leader. I think what he's done in that region is transformational," he said. What a piece of human garbage. Imagine responding in exasperation to a request to justify doing business with someone who had a journalist murdered, while in the same breath praising the individual that orchestrated the murder.
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 13:39 |
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What's half of nothing?
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 13:41 |
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withoutclass posted:What's half of nothing? He can still be stuck with child support for the rest of his life.
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 13:47 |
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notwithoutmyanus posted:https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-trump-raise-the-settlement comments continue to entertain. you have to be a special kind of stupid to give money to "elena cardone" because trust her she will give it to trump but im here for it because they are gonna take the money away from don don
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 13:49 |
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he's on the hook for half a billion dollars and we haven't even really started his four criminal trials yet
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 13:51 |
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greazeball posted:he's on the hook for half a billion dollars and we haven't even really started his four criminal trials yet Do you mean his indictments on 91 charges?
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 13:59 |
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greazeball posted:he's on the hook for half a billion dollars and we haven't even really started his four criminal trials yet It really is incredible what we are in for in the LOL department this year
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Cat Hassler posted:Pay to the order of…Iron Balls McGinty…one dollar and NINE CENTS! Thank you for this
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:08 |
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If you don't bankrupt yourself for Trump, Jesus will teabag you in heaven
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:17 |
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crusty posted:Useful info from a NY lawyer with expertise in this realm:
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:19 |
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:He raised more than $700 million in 2020. You keep saying this, but given how widely the political landscape in the US has changed in the last four years or so, you might as well be saying "He raised more than $700 million in 1920". Four years is several lifetimes ago in politics, and I don't think anyone who's been paying attention would disagree that the US political landscape has had some colossal sea changes during that time. Raising that kind of scratch isn't necessarily a given for him anymore.
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:22 |
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kw0134 posted:Everything can be phased to give it a federal question gloss, but it's still a state question turd under it all and SCOTUS wouldn't want to touch it. This is clearly a Third amendment issue. If trump is forced to sell apartments it possible a solider could end up staying in it, thus being quartered in it without consent of the current owner, Mr Trump. The only way to avoid this possibility is completely nullifying the judgment your honors!!!
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:27 |
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kw0134 posted:This is technically correct (the best kind of correct) with SCOTUS but so laughably unlikely that to say it's a Hail Mary vastly overstates it, because Hail Mary passes work often enough to be worth trying. You're right, but you know he's gonna try it...
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:31 |
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crusty posted:You're right, but you know he's gonna try it... Well he doesn't have much to lose, and I assume the lawyers will be up for trying any long shot as long as they're paid in advance.
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:34 |
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Can’t TRUMP just write a check to himself for $450 million dollars? Then the money is in the check and not in the bank anymore, so the court and creditors don’t get it for judgment and he (TRUMP) gets to keep his money?
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Sydney Bottocks posted:You keep saying this, but given how widely the political landscape in the US has changed in the last four years or so, you might as well be saying "He raised more than $700 million in 1920". Four years is several lifetimes ago in politics, and I don't think anyone who's been paying attention would disagree that the US political landscape has had some colossal sea changes during that time. Raising that kind of scratch isn't necessarily a given for him anymore. EDIT: Chief McHeath posted:Can’t TRUMP just write a check to himself for $450 million dollars? Then the money is in the check and not in the bank anymore, so the court and creditors don’t get it for judgment and he (TRUMP) gets to keep his money? Sombrerotron fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Feb 17, 2024 |
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Huff po released a fantastic article answering the questions most people have about Trump https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-debt-legal-losses_n_65d03728e4b0f7fbe7b2c04e Some highlights How much does Trump owe: quote:Between Friday’s ruling and the two judgments in Carroll’s case, Trump would be on the hook for about $542 million in legal judgments. How quickly does Trump have to pay? quote:Trump has already deposited $5 million owed to Carroll for the first defamation case into a court-controlled account, along with an additional $500,000 in interest required by New York law. Carroll will not have access to the funds until the appeals process plays out. Can he or his businesses declare bankruptcy? quote:Under the judge’s ruling Friday, Trump would still be liable to pay even if the Trump Organization declares bankruptcy. If Trump personally declared bankruptcy, the enforcement of the judgment against him would be paused. But political commenters say such a drastic step is unlikely. What if Trump simply refuses to pay the money? quote:Legally, Trump would face the same consequences as any American refusing to pay a legal judgment, including the possibility of having his assets seized and his wages garnished.
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:36 |
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Sombrerotron posted:I would also guess that the bulk of that sum came from really wealthy donors, who at this point may not be too inclined anymore to invest heavily in Trump (especially if it's just to directly pay off his debts, rather than fund his campaign). He’s going to be the republican nominee, he’s going to get that money. There isn’t another choice for them to move to
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:36 |
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I made a handy graphic to help explain what's going on right now
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:37 |
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Wow, an actual "Sir!" - I didn't know those actually existed in the wild.
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:38 |
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Chief McHeath posted:Can’t TRUMP just write a check to himself for $450 million dollars? Then the money is in the check and not in the bank anymore, so the court and creditors don’t get it for judgment and he (TRUMP) gets to keep his money?
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:39 |
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has anyone said "lol" yet?
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:40 |
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crusty posted:You're right, but you know he's gonna try it...
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:43 |
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LOL https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1758664719559430333?s=20
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Three Olives posted:https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1758676216490381375 Didn’t Trump already call her a loser and tell her law firm they’re done? I could have sworn he already kicked her to the curb
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:45 |
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Trump could make history by having his presidential salary garnished.
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:47 |
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Also, regarding a Trump personal bankruptcy: I mentioned it before but even if he files, that's not a guarantee that the judgements from either the fraud or defamation cases can be discharged through a personal bankruptcy. Bankruptcy courts generally do not like it when people file with an obvious intent to avoid paying creditors; the idea is that if you file, you do so because you literally have no money to pay them, not because you want to use the bankruptcy court to avoid paying them. Trump would literally set his dumb adult sons on fire before ever admitting that he doesn't have the money to pay those debts, which he would have to do as part of a bankruptcy filing (and which would also be a matter of public record, to boot). Also, there are exceptions to what debts can be considered eligible for discharge in a personal bankruptcy. This includes things like student loans, money owed to the IRS, and (relevant to Trump's situation here) court-ordered judgements where damages were awarded because either a crime was committed, or there was an obvious and deliberate attempt to cause some form of harm to the other party (whether to their person, or to their reputation and public image). That would pretty much cover both the judgements from the fraud case and the defamation case. tl;dr: filing for personal bankruptcy isn't necessarily a "Get Out of
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# ? Feb 17, 2024 14:48 |
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GoFundMe has an interesting rule about what you cannot use it for https://www.gofundme.com/c/terms 9. the legal defense of alleged financial and violent crimes; This should be fun!
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Frank Frank posted:Didn’t Trump already call her a loser and tell her law firm they’re done? I could have sworn he already kicked her to the curb I think there was a faked Truth Social post to that effect.
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