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hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

I like working from home because my last job was lifting heavy poo poo in the heat

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docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Working remotely isn't suitable for every person (or for every job, obviously) while being a great boon to some people (and some jobs) and that's why workplaces should be flexible but that's too milquetoast an opinion for the arguing thread so I'll just say I am never ever going back to two-hour bus commutes and you can't make me.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

hawowanlawow posted:

I like working from home because my last job was lifting heavy poo poo in the heat

Both my jobs are lifting heavy poo poo in the frozen beard cold and will be the same but in the heat shortly.

This is why I couldn’t stand working from home tbh. Work is work. I like work mode and gently caress you I’m off mode being nice and separate. I like being physically tired and sitting in my goon chair taunting at my foes in TF2 in a completely different environment from where I work, to blow off steam, ya know?

Same reason when my jobs were bouncing between godawful restaurant gigs, I was one of these guys



E: I think I’m associating wfh with office gigs in general, where office or home you’re technically 9-5 but expected to be on top of email/call/etc 24/7 and gently caress that am I on the clock? No? Piss off.

Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 15:44 on Feb 16, 2024

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

JollyBoyJohn posted:

I like working from home because I can start early, crack on and be on the videogames by 2pm

They let you use crack at work?!?


Remote work is for office drones who don't do real work. Rather they send emails, edit excel documents, and look at porn or memes all day.

And are paid more than people doing real work, until soon they will all be replaced by AI, which is more efficient at email, porn and memes, and doesn't need to be paid.

The people doing real work will have their jobs until AI learns how to control bodies, at which point having a job becomes irrelevant anyway.

Ommin
Apr 5, 2006
I like to watch CinemaSins and Honest Trailers for all the movies I'm curious about but don't want to watch. It's like Cliff's Notes with commentary notes to use in conversation to "prove you watched it."
Milquetoast opinion: I just noticed and do not care for the little arrow things in the forum quotes. I guess it's to minimize quotes? Any way, change is bad. Grrr.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

doverhog posted:

They let you use crack at work?!?


Remote work is for office drones who don't do real work. Rather they send emails, edit excel documents, and look at porn or memes all day.

And are paid more than people doing real work, until soon they will all be replaced by AI, which is more efficient at email, porn and memes, and doesn't need to be paid.

The people doing real work will have their jobs until AI learns how to control bodies, at which point having a job becomes irrelevant anyway.

spoken like a chump

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
It's good you chastised me for my entirely serious post, well done li'l' champ.

doverhog has a new favorite as of 16:22 on Feb 16, 2024

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

and I'll do it again if you don't watch your rear end nerd

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Phu fact: not tryna be manly man man workin tough jobs to own lame office drones, just legit my jobs are mechanic and military reserve, and being home shitposting and gaming with my family warms my heart and I’d legit probably lose my mind if this computer chair with a cat wiggling at me and a computer and my phone was also my job space. I really don’t get the appeal.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
I like working from home but I'm a bougie upper middle class office DINK and I have a nice home office on the third floor of my house that's only used for storage, the guest room, and my office so I just see that floor as 'work'. Makes it easy to separate it from the normal day to day. I also have a lot of local friends that WFH or work near enough to me that I can grab lunch/coffee/a beer easily so I don't miss the social aspect of an office.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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I work answering calls, but I can do that from home and it means I save money on fuel and wear in the car, so that is good!

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Work from home seems like hell and work from home likers kinda make me worried for their home life

While I don't necessarily worry about the lives of people who prefer working from home, I personally despise working from home and would only do it if it were a requirement. If I had a "flexible" job with a company that had an office, I would be in the office whenever I could.

Ommin posted:

Milquetoast opinion: I just noticed and do not care for the little arrow things in the forum quotes. I guess it's to minimize quotes? Any way, change is bad. Grrr.

Ugh, what the gently caress? Yeah, no, that's not for me either.

5TonsOfFlax
Aug 31, 2001
Working from an office wouldn't be so bad except for the commute, and the fact that every single company I've worked for in the last 15 years has moved to open office plans where it's impossible to concentrate.

There's 0 chance I'm spending an extra 2 hours dedicated to getting to/from my job, while also being subjected to every imbecile around chewing with their mouth open on the provided snacks which are loving CornNuts™ for some reason.

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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It wasn’t that long ago that a family could have the father work a 40 hour a week job (at the office) while the mother stayed home and took care of the household and they could afford a decent-sized house, insurance, vehicle and have enough to comfortably raise children and go on vacation. Then liberals and tech jobs started complaining about the “commute” and “work/life balance” and now we see the complete hellhole that middle America has become. Coincidental?

I’ll let you draw your own conclusions

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

phuo: people who "don't get" other people's personal opinions and preferences are, at best, deeply incurious

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

oldpainless posted:

It wasn’t that long ago that a family could have the father work a 40 hour a week job (at the office) while the mother stayed home and took care of the household and they could afford a decent-sized house, insurance, vehicle and have enough to comfortably raise children and go on vacation. Then liberals and tech jobs started complaining about the “commute” and “work/life balance” and now we see the complete hellhole that middle America has become. Coincidental?

I’ll let you draw your own conclusions

Invest in NFTs and crypto bro, stop being a slave.

Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

Cutest tumor in all of Oncology!
I hate crypto because I hate freedom itself.

alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Work from home seems like hell and work from home likers kinda make me worried for their home life

Also applies to home gym havers

Home is where I man my posting and gaming battlestation and escape work. I do not want it here. Taking the bus to and from work and the gym is a nice chill transition. Keep work out of home.

Also having toddler twins and a newborn is work, I ain’t answering emails or calls here gently caress you bossman. I’ll maybe read work texts but respond? lol

The one place I worked at had a 2 hour commute, so I was losing 4 hours out of every day standing up in a crowded train able to do gently caress all. Literally an entire day's (plus 4 hours) worth of time stolen from my week. Week after week.

e: lol u got a week probe as i posted this. rippp

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

My pho is that the quote collapse button should probably be collapsed by default otherwise it kind of defeats the point.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Runa posted:

My pho is that the quote collapse button should probably be collapsed by default otherwise it kind of defeats the point.

It’s mainly for people quoting obnoxiously big images or huge amounts of text.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Gripweed posted:

It’s mainly for people quoting obnoxiously big images or huge amounts of text.

Yeah, but if you have to scroll around a big quote to get to the triangle it's actually the same amount of effort as leaving the big quote uncollapsed

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Runa posted:

Yeah, but if you have to scroll around a big quote to get to the triangle it's actually the same amount of effort as leaving the big quote uncollapsed

but the triangle is at the top of the quote? So if you see it's a big quote you can just hit the triangle before you scroll. Like this

mawarannahr posted:

Really don't mind if you sit this one out.

My words but a whisper - your deafness a SHOUT.

I may make you feel but I can't make you think.

Your sperm's in the gutter - your love's in the sink.

So you ride yourselves over the fields and

you make all your animal deals and

your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.

And the sand-castle virtues are all swept away in

the tidal destruction

the moral melee.

The elastic retreat rings the close of play as the last wave uncovers

the newfangled way.

But your new shoes are worn at the heels and

your suntan does rapidly peel and

your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.

And the love that I feel is so far away:

I'm a bad dream that I just had today - and you

shake your head and

say it's a shame.

Spin me back down the years and the days of my youth.

Draw the lace and black curtains and shut out the whole truth.

Spin me down the long ages: let them sing the song.

See there! A son is born - and we pronounce him fit to fight.

There are black-heads on his shoulders, and he pees himself in the
night.

We'll

make a man of him

put him to trade

teach him

to play Monopoly and

to sing in the rain.

The Poet and the painter casting shadows on the water

as the sun plays on the infantry returning from the sea.

The do-er and the thinker: no allowance for the other

as the failing light illuminates the mercenary's creed.

The home fire burning: the kettle almost boiling

but the master of the house is far away.

The horses stamping - their warm breath clouding

in the sharp and frosty morning of the day.

And the poet lifts his pen while the soldier sheaths his sword.

And the youngest of the family is moving with authority.

Building castles by the sea, he dares the tardy tide to wash them all
aside.

The cattle quietly grazing at the grass down by the river

where the swelling mountain water moves onward to the sea:

the builder of the castles renews the age-old purpose

and contemplates the milking girl whose offer is his need.

The young men of the household have

all gone into service and

are not to be expected for a year.

The innocent young master - thoughts moving ever faster

has formed the plan to change the man he seems.

And the poet sheaths his pen while the soldier lifts his sword.

And the oldest of the family is moving with authority.

Coming from across the sea, he challenges the son who puts him to the
run.

What do you do when

the old man's gone - do you want to be him? And

your real self sings the song.

Do you want to free him?

No one to help you get up steam

and the whirlpool turns you `way off-beam.

LATER.

I've come down from the upper class to mend your rotten ways.

My father was a man-of-power whom everyone obeyed.

So come on all you criminals!

I've got to put you straight just like I did with my old man

twenty years too late.

Your bread and water's going cold.

Your hair is too short and neat.

I'll judge you all and make drat sure that no-one judges me.

You curl your toes in fun as you smile at everyone - you meet the stares.

You're unaware that your doings aren't done.

And you laugh most ruthlessly as you tell us what not to be.

But how are we supposed to see where we should run?

I see you shuffle in the courtroom with

your rings upon your fingers and

your downy little sidies and

your silver-buckle shoes.

Playing at the hard case, you follow the example of the comic-paper
idol

who lets you bend the rules.

So!

Come on ye childhood heroes!

Won't you rise up from the pages of your comic-books

your super crooks

and show us all the way.

Well! Make your will and testament. Won't you?

Join your local government.

We'll have Superman for president

let Robin save the day.

You put your bet on number one and it comes up every time.

The other kids have all backed down and they put you first in line.

And so you finally ask yourself just how big you are

and take your place in a wiser world of bigger motor cars.

And you wonder who to call on.

So! Where the hell was Biggles when you needed him last Saturday?

And where were all the sportsmen who always pulled you though?

They're all resting down in Cornwall

writing up their memoirs for a paper-back edition

of the Boy Scout Manual.

LATER.

See there! A man born - and we pronounce him fit for peace.

There's a load lifted from his shoulders with the discovery of his
disease.

We'll

take the child from him

put it to the test

teach it

to be a wise man

how to fool the rest.

QUOTE

We will be geared to the average rather than the exceptional

God is an overwhelming responsibility

we walked through the maternity ward and saw 218 babies wearing nylons

cats are on the upgrade

upgrade? Hipgrave. Oh, Mac.

LATER

In the clear white circles of morning wonder,

I take my place with the lord of the hills.

And the blue-eyed soldiers stand slightly discoloured (in neat little
rows)

sporting canvas frills.

With their jock-straps pinching, they slouch to attention,

while queueing for sarnies at the office canteen.

Saying -- how's your granny and

good old Ernie: he coughed up a tenner on a premium bond win.

The legends (worded in the ancient tribal hymn) lie cradled

in the seagull's call.

And all the promises they made are ground beneath the sadist's fall.

The poet and the wise man stand behind the gun,

and signal for the crack of dawn.

Light the sun.

Do you believe in the day? Do you?

Believe in the day! The Dawn Creation of the Kings has begun.

Soft Venus (lonely maiden) brings the ageless one.

Do you believe in the day?

The fading hero has returned to the night - and fully pregnant with
the day,

wise men endorse the poet's sight.

Do you believe in the day? Do you? Believe in the day!

Let me tell you the tales of your life of

your love and the cut of the knife

the tireless oppression

the wisdom instilled

the desire to kill or be killed.

Let me sing of the losers who lie in the street as the last bus goes
by.

The pavements ar empty: the gutters run red - while the fool

toasts his god in the sky.

So come all ye young men who are building castles!

Kindly state the time of the year and join your voices in a hellish
chorus.

Mark the precise nature of your fear.

Let me help you pick up your dead as the sins of the father are fed

with

the blood of the fools and

the thoughts of the wise and

from the pan under your bed.

Let me make you a present of song as

the wise man breaks wind and is gone while

the fool with the hour-glass is cooking his goose and

the nursery rhyme winds along.

So! Come all ye young men who are building castles!

Kindly state the time of the year and join your voices in a hellish
chorus.

Mark the precise nature of your fear.

See! The summer lightning casts its bolts upon you

and the hour of judgement draweth near.

Would you be

the fool stood in his suit of armour or

the wiser man who rushes clear.

So! Come on ye childhood heroes!

Won't your rise up from the pages of your comic-books

your super-crooks and

show us all the way.

Well! Make your will and testament.

Won't you? Join your local government.

We'll have Superman for president

let Robin save the day.

So! Where the hell was Biggles when you needed him last Saturday?

And where were all the sportsmen who always pulled you through?

They're all resting down in Cornwall - writing up their memoirs

for a paper-back edition of the Boy Scout Manual.

OF COURSE

So you ride yourselves over the fields and

you make all your animal deals and

your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Gripweed posted:

but the triangle is at the top of the quote? So if you see it's a big quote you can just hit the triangle before you scroll. Like this

I guess it depends on from where in the page you're catching up on, like if I'm coming in at a "last seen post" after the big quote.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

alexandriao posted:


e: lol u got a week probe as i posted this. rippp


I don't understand why he'd get reported or probed for this. It's funny more than anything else.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club

Gripweed posted:

but the triangle is at the top of the quote? So if you see it's a big quote you can just hit the triangle before you scroll. Like this

That's my favorite song :)

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
My unpopular opinion is that a lot of WFH advocates really take for granted the sheer number of people who simply cannot take that option in order to make the WFH person capable of being a recluse. While I think it's good for a lot of reasons to let people work from home if it's feasible in their job, it also trades one person's in-person labor for another somewhere along the infrastructure.

It can also create divisive situations within various businesses and bureaucracies where some jobs can work from home (Admins, tech support, clerks/secretaries/etc) while others simply can't (janitors, repair techs, drivers, warehouse workers, medical staff, etc).

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
It creates a divisive situation in my house where my wife has to sometimes be out from 8am till 10pm at night while I literally stay in bed till 3pm 5 days a week

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

Panfilo posted:

While I think it's good for a lot of reasons to let people work from home if it's feasible in their job, it also trades one person's in-person labor for another somewhere along the infrastructure.

Can you elaborate on this? How does, like, an accountant working from home make someone else have to do more in-person somewhere else? Or am I misunderstanding what you mean?

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

I think more people should WFM so I'm not stuck in rush hour traffic for an hour+ every workday

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Runa posted:

I think more people should WFM so I'm not stuck in rush hour traffic for an hour+ every workday

Spent a moment wondering what the gently caress Witch from Mercury had to do with traffic.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

docbeard posted:

Working remotely isn't suitable for every person (or for every job, obviously) while being a great boon to some people (and some jobs) and that's why workplaces should be flexible but that's too milquetoast an opinion for the arguing thread so I'll just say I am never ever going back to two-hour bus commutes and you can't make me.

Yeah I definitely think flexibility is key

Even prior to covid my medical condition caused doctors to recommend I spend as much time working from home as possible. But I will admit it I kind of liked being in office at time and didn't mind just ignoring the doctor's order since I changed jobs and no one asked for a release at any point. Like honestly it was even easier to work less onsite because people just assume if you're there you're working, and have a lot less expectations for off hour work. And I'll be real if I went to lunch for an hour instead of a half hour, I never felt remotely guilty.

Post covid though, things changed a lot. And not just out of disease avoidance. I got REALLY GOOD at doing my job remotely and it became harder and harder to ever justify going in. I also noticed that my health got DRAMATICALLY better; it turns out the doctor had the right idea after all, go figure; it improved so much I just had a very hard time justifying putting myself in an in office situation again. It did suck that people thought I then worked 24/7, that I felt a lot more like I had to justify my paycheck and that there was a lot more bleed of work into my day to day time, but it ended up being way better overall.

Now in an extended job hunt I'm long past the point where I can reply for remote only and just have to try to get anything. And like I have to think one of the reasons I can't find work is when I go to an interview for an onsite job like in the back of my mind the dread of working in person influences me and causes me to bomb the interviews, when interviewing used to be a primary skill. I just wish that this all wasn't such a hot button issue for people and that it was easier to find a flexible job.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Work From Home should absolutely be readily available for everyone who can (medically or because of the nature of their job) do it.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Pharmacies should have free samples like Costco.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Gripweed posted:

Pharmacies should have free samples like Costco.

They'd be torn apart by addicts.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Byzantine posted:

They'd be torn apart by addicts.

Fine, how about like at ice cream parlors, they have all the medicine in trays behind a glass counter and you can ask for a taste.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

a pharmacy operating on Turkish Ice Cream Stand rules

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Going in to the pharmacy every day, pretending to look at your options for a couple minutes before asking for a taste of the anti-androgens like always, the pharmacist who is visibly tired of your poo poo hands it over, and you leave without buying anything.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Gripweed posted:

Fine, how about like at ice cream parlors, they have all the medicine in trays behind a glass counter and you can ask for a taste.

They would be torn apart by addicts.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
At least locally a lot of the low income care for people without insurance is based on the distribution, or re-distribution of samples, for what it’s worth.

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Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Byzantine posted:

They would be torn apart by addicts.

I just don’t think addicts go that nuts over nitroglycerin and spiranolactone.

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