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RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Who wants to join me in the greatest gaming heist of all time

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Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


only if i get to be carmen sandiego

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

there's no Constitution videogame so we're going to steal Consortium

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

ninjoatse.cx posted:

A whole bunch of assassin's creed games are on sale on steam. Which ones are good and don't have long lovely openings. I never made it to the gameplay loop in syndicate and AC3 because I couldn't give a gently caress about whatever slow walking story they were trying to jam down my throat.

My idiot take is that Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla are the best of the franchise. Mirage is the latest AC and is pretty good too.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Of the originals, Ezio is the best character and AC2 and Brotherhood were fun but pretty aged now. Black Flag's sailing stuff was so much fun to play that they spent 10 years developing a game that was much worse and also embezzled from the Singaporean Government in the process.

Of the "modern" AC games, Origin was a very cool change of pace and Bayek was very cool, but I prefer Odyssey because Kassandra is the best character for all AC games including Ezio.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Jerusalem posted:

Of the originals, Ezio is the best character and AC2 and Brotherhood were fun but pretty aged now. Black Flag's sailing stuff was so much fun to play that they spent 10 years developing a game that was much worse and also embezzled from the Singaporean Government in the process.

Of the "modern" AC games, Origin was a very cool change of pace and Bayek was very cool, but I prefer Odyssey because Kassandra is the best character for all AC games including Ezio.

this is pretty much how i feel about it. AC2/Bro kinda rough to go back to now but i think they're still worth playing

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

Embracer is certainly working hard to make the video games industry history!

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

I do not give a flying gently caress about Disco Elysium and am sick of people debating it, but holy poo poo you should all read that interview no matter who you are.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

"The motherfuckers in sailing shoes and bowties" is a good term for management

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
So we got Embracer with Saudi Arabia and then there is Ubi with the Singapore government. I feel like I'm missing something where "make video games" mixes with "government deals".

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Saudi Arabia is just throwing money everywhere so that isn’t suprising. They are always looking for a piece of every pie.

No idea about Singapore

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Both countries appear to be ran by dipshit idiots.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆
videogames are a massive industry making hundreds of billions per year
the singaporean government just had a lot of money in their sovereign wealth fund and needed somewhere to invest it and hey it's "easy" to spend a few hundred mil on a single video game and get a nice return as long as your wealth fund's investment manager is an idiot who doesn't understand risk or volatility. or i guess if you have enough billions all sitting in different diversified investments maybe you're cool with the volatility

the saudis's videogame investment was much smarter because instead of putting all their eggs in one basket they were just buying up broad parts of an industry, they didn't wanna bet on one game they just wanted a slice of the huge games-industry revenue

and yeah saudis have billions and billions of dollars in oil money that they need to invest somewhere, they can't just reinvest it in making more/better oil obviously (hi opec) so they end up grasping around for anywhere that has decent returns and enough capacity to actually take their massive stacks of cash as an investment

RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Feb 17, 2024

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."
Mohammed bin Salman seems like he might game. Probably has a 4090.

e:

quote:

When Baier asked HRH about what activities he does to blow off steam, and what he has fun doing, HRH said with a smile, “Video games. Since I was a kid, I love it.” He even said video games help him disconnect from reality.

Wow he's just like me

NoEyedSquareGuy fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Feb 17, 2024

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


Leal posted:

So we got Embracer with Saudi Arabia and then there is Ubi with the Singapore government. I feel like I'm missing something where "make video games" mixes with "government deals".

remember curt schilling and rhode island lol

bobthenameless
Jun 20, 2005

there's been some success stories i think? wasn't Fez (partially?) funded by canada?

i also think ive seen some game recently - maybe a nextfest title? - call out funding from a government/grant too

certainly not million dollar deals but sometimes it might work out

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock
There are tons of indie games that get part of their budget from government art grants. But it’s generally only a fraction of the dev costs.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."
Shapez 2 is being partially funded by the German Federal Ministry of Economic Affairs and Climate Action

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

Some EU studios get by with the help of subsidies and/or grants.

I remember looking into one very buggy game and discovering that the studio was stuck in a vicious cycle where they could get a grant every year, but only for a new game or major expansion.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Putting dodge on an analog trigger without giving the player the option to remap that is some loving serial killer poo poo.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Leal posted:

I feel like I'm missing something where "make video games" mixes with "government deals".

Let me tell you the story of Kingdoms of Amalur and 38 Studios.

Efb, :negative:

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


As a Rhode Islander, I always feel compelled to correct people on this whenever it comes up, since it is apparently a rather long-lived myth. Kingdoms of Amalur did not "bankrupt the state of Rhode Island." Kingdoms of Amalur was a separate IP bought and folded into 38 Studios when it was nearing the end of its development. The game that led to studio collapse was an unfinished, never released MMO codenamed Project Copernicus.

Orv
May 4, 2011
So did Project Copernicus bankrupt Rhode Island?

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


We'll always have mob money to bail us out.

Nefarious 2.0
Apr 22, 2008

Offense is overrated anyway.

Orv posted:

So did Project Copernicus bankrupt Rhode Island?

yes. it also put ketchup in curt schilling's sock

Orv
May 4, 2011

Nefarious 2.0 posted:

yes. it also put ketchup in curt schilling's sock

Good

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


bobthenameless posted:

there's been some success stories i think? wasn't Fez (partially?) funded by canada?

accidentally comedic example

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Mohammed bin Salman seems like he might game. Probably has a 4090.

e:

Wow he's just like me

He must have some Neo-Geo MVS cabinets.



I also have heard he plays a mean Medic in Team Fortress 2.

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Feb 17, 2024

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

ymgve posted:

There are tons of indie games that get part of their budget from government art grants. But it’s generally only a fraction of the dev costs.
Australia does that too.
https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/funding-and-support/online/games/games-production-fund
https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/funding-and-support/online/games/emerging-gamemakers-fund

Diets and Deities folks tried out during Demo Fest is one.

There's state level funding too, like Untitled Goose Game, that used Film Victoria.
I don't know if Hollow Knight had any gov funding.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Leal posted:

So we got Embracer with Saudi Arabia and then there is Ubi with the Singapore government. I feel like I'm missing something where "make video games" mixes with "government deals".

Disturbing reports of Larian being involved with the Flemish government

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

exquisite tea posted:

As a Rhode Islander, I always feel compelled to correct people on this whenever it comes up, since it is apparently a rather long-lived myth. Kingdoms of Amalur did not "bankrupt the state of Rhode Island." Kingdoms of Amalur was a separate IP bought and folded into 38 Studios when it was nearing the end of its development. The game that led to studio collapse was an unfinished, never released MMO codenamed Project Copernicus.

OK but it was still stupid to offer him seventy five loving million to move his studio to release a random rear end game

WarEternal
Dec 26, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Fruits of the sea posted:

Some EU studios get by with the help of subsidies and/or grants.

I remember looking into one very buggy game and discovering that the studio was stuck in a vicious cycle where they could get a grant every year, but only for a new game or major expansion.

Don't all the Montreal-based studios take some form of subsidy from Quebec?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Yeah, I think this is actually common almost everywhere outside of the US and maybe Japan? I wasn't kidding earlier, I'm pretty sure Larian has received subsidies and grants from the Flemish and/or Belgian governments at various points in the past.

However, that still seems different from becoming entangled with a foreign government, especially a shady one like Saudi Arabia's

lih
May 15, 2013

Just a friendly reminder of what it looks like.

We'll do punctuation later.

Croccers posted:

Australia does that too.
https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/funding-and-support/online/games/games-production-fund
https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/funding-and-support/online/games/emerging-gamemakers-fund

Diets and Deities folks tried out during Demo Fest is one.

There's state level funding too, like Untitled Goose Game, that used Film Victoria.
I don't know if Hollow Knight had any gov funding.

hollow knight didn't get any government funding but silksong probably is since their state brought in a bunch of tax incentives & grants for game developers in the years since hollow knight came out

Snackmar
Feb 23, 2005

I'M PROGRAMMED TO LOVE THIS CHOCOLATY CAKE... MY CIRCUITS LIGHT UP FOR THAT FUDGY ICING.
Ontario has Ontario Creates (formerly the Ontario Media Development Corporation) for games and film etc. Many indie studios in Toronto apply for one of their funding streams. My partner and I received a grant from them several years ago - you submit detailed business plans, a budget spreadsheet, etc

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

ninjoatse.cx posted:

A whole bunch of assassin's creed games are on sale on steam. Which ones are good and don't have long lovely openings. I never made it to the gameplay loop in syndicate and AC3 because I couldn't give a gently caress about whatever slow walking story they were trying to jam down my throat.

Black Flag is cheap and very chill fun. Unfortunately it has a pretty long intro from what I can remember, and the constant escort and tailing missions suck.

Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, is “Content: The Game.” It’s… Pretty good content though! It’s a nice light 8 out of 10 experience for hours upon hours upon hours upon hours.

Assassin’s Creed Valhalla is more of the same as Odyssey.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
Is either of the Odyssey DLC good?

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Automata 10 Pack posted:

Black Flag is cheap and very chill fun. Unfortunately it has a pretty long intro from what I can remember, and the constant escort and tailing missions suck.


Yeah I've played about an hour of the Black Flag intro three or four times. I really must just dedicate a few hours to ploughing through it so I can get to the cool pirate poo poo.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Azran posted:

Is either of the Odyssey DLC good?

You want the one about Atlantis, not the one about bloodlines or whatever it is, IIRC

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Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Azran posted:

Is either of the Odyssey DLC good?

There's one where you go to Atlantis, one where you got to Elysium (heaven) and one where you go to Hades (hell). They're all... alright, but by the time you get to them you've been playing for like 100 hours and the DLCs add another uh 40 maybe.

I didn't hate them and I didn't regret playing through them, but I was really going through the motions playing them.

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