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15 | 3.71% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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A Pole accusing anyone of antisemitism is loving rich. Was it Anne Applebaum who explained the many, many, accounts of Poles drawing their fingers across their necks to Jews corralled onto box cars as some sort of gesture of sympathy?
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Feb 17, 2024 17:11
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wait till that guy reads about FDR
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Feb 17, 2024 17:13
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Ardennes posted:Yes, and it is a good question where the next crop comes from considering the limits at hand. It is a good question of where the Russians go from here. They want the Ukrainians to come to them with minimal losses, but if the Ukrainians are so weak they can't mount counter-offensives or even hold up to Verdun-style sieges, they may have to get more aggressive (which is something they don't seem to want to do). Russia is apparently re-enforcing the zaporizhzhia front maybe for another offensive later in the year. Theres nothing left around the adviika front except farmlands that wouldnt be very defensible. That leads the norther part of the front with Bakhmut (again). They've lost what they've gained in that front from the offensive but if the intent is to try and create a buffer for the only 2 other cities in the separatist areas then it would be your best bet.
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Feb 17, 2024 17:14
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Chillgamesh posted:Tank named after a big cat getting irretrievably stuck in the mud you say...? It is 1943 and the Nazi tank is stuck in the mud in Ukraine  It is 2024 and the Nazi tank is stuck in the mud in Ukraine 
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Feb 17, 2024 17:14
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Have liberals tried to explain why Ukraine marks their vehicles with white crosses, or are they just ignoring that?  It's so funny that Poland keeps providing them huge amounts of military aid. Their national heroes, ideology and even insignia is "we hate Poles!", but alas.
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Feb 17, 2024 17:16
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https://twitter.com/kobasuperfan/status/1758630795554730089?t=-n5T44ruAEwc6e5ogWb42w&s=19 I do not endorse this person's highlighting style but the material is pertinent Source is "The Soviet Partisan Movement 1941-1944"
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Feb 17, 2024 17:18
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/LiamYidDem/status/1758696392275468294?t=sTTRGHvjGOwWM1f1NkOVKA&s=19 Thank you! Someone finally said that existence of Israel is antisemitic.
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Feb 17, 2024 17:18
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РБК posted:The US Department of Justice transferred $500,000 from confiscated Russian assets to Estonia. This is the first such case.
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Feb 17, 2024 17:19
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I like Glantz, I think I have all of his books around here somewhere, so I'm obviously very conflicted about this. The guy was, admittedly, a bit of a Kremlinologist ("Russia whisperer") when he was working at the doctrine office in the 80's, but after the Soviet archives opened he seemed open to reinterpreting the USSR. I also badly want him to finish the Stumbling Colossus, Colossus Reborn trilogy with the book covering 1944-45 he's been working on for a decade. e: Gradenko, it's hardly a style to highlight the entire page! ee: I was conflicted because on first reading I thought he was denying the various German and Polish plots in the USSR, but on second reading, yeah I think Glantz was right. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 17:22 on Feb 17, 2024 |
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Feb 17, 2024 17:20
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Im really struggling to see how they can amass another "mountain of steel" for ukraine to use for another ill fated summer offensive. A lot of the equipment that was being shipped for ukraine to use was already mothballed and didnt work right, they were scrapping the bottom of the barrel already. What can they expect to get now?
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Feb 17, 2024 17:21
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Im really struggling to see how they can amass another "mountain of steel" for ukraine to use for another ill fated summer offensive. A lot of the equipment that was being shipped for ukraine to use was already mothballed and didnt work right, they were scrapping the bottom of the barrel already. What can they expect to get now? They'll get more weapons that damage the Russians in a way that the US and NATO want, but isn't to Ukraine's advantage. Striking the Black Sea Fleet is a perfect example. It's an absolutely insane waste of resources from the Ukrainian point of view, but as far as NATO is concerned is a fantastic investment. So, more missiles, drones, poo poo like that. Probably more poo poo to push various red lines, since, because of the "humiliation- as-politics" thing we've discussed EU officials particularly seem to relish that. I'm no good at psychoanalysis, but having been to von der Leyen's announcement in Canada, people really like when they do things that are of little to no military value but are flaunting that Russia can't just bomb Ramstein Air Base. I don't know how to explain it, but they are really, really, into this idea that Ukraine takes all the blows and they get to damage Russia "for free", and the more gratuitous it is, in terms of cruise missiles, cluster munitions, ISR, whatever, the more they feel like it's je ne sais quoi, important? DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 17:28 on Feb 17, 2024 |
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Feb 17, 2024 17:24
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:ee: I was conflicted because on first reading I thought he was denying the various German and Polish plots in the USSR, but on second reading, yeah I think Glantz was right. Yeah to be clear the point is that Stalin wasn't being paranoid if they really were out to get him
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Feb 17, 2024 17:24
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Flournival Dixon posted:I feel like there's such an instructive potential in the importance of anti-imperialism in any "leftist" political ideology just by looking at the american sanders/aoc/socdem bullshit division but i dunno if there's ever to be an english speaking audience to receive such a lesson. First as tragedy (WW1 with the SPD and other European "Socialist" parties) then as farce (what could barely be described as the "left" in Western political parties).
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Feb 17, 2024 17:34
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:What the gently caress is this? lol, I just saw they have a trailer for the Korean War after they finish up with WW2. It's gonna be terrible. I've also noticed since 2022 they've removed the USSR's flag from the background of allied flags. Edit: poo poo, sorry for the double post.
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Feb 17, 2024 17:36
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Blaisedell posted:yeah, and there are lots of other things they could have been doing other than pointlessly fighting in a hopeless war. Why would an Irishman be fighting in the great war except on Easter?
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Feb 17, 2024 17:41
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I know it's been harped on over and over but I still can't wrap my head around Russia taking seven times as many casualties while outnumbering the Ukrainians 10 to 1 and the AFU having massive artillery shortages I guess the brave defenders of Ukraine are simply that powerful
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Feb 17, 2024 17:41
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I feel like interwar Poland has really skated on a tonne of poo poo. Reading those books last year that persecution of the Jews was massively ramping up throughout the 1930's feels like reading the Epstein thread - in the sense that I can see the contours of something, but I have no idea what it is. The same goes for books that allude to - but never state - the extent of Polish military and intelligence preparations against the USSR, the purpose of British photorecon flights over the USSR that fell into German hands, what the Little Entente was for if France told it to stand down against Germany etc. Britain and France's Central European allies defecting to become the Axis minors has never been thoroughly explained because there are like a half dozen books on Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria in WW2, and pretty much none (in English) on the interwar years. Mussolini was preposing the Stresa Front and Little Entente be combined in 1935, in which case any Germany aggression, even the Anschluss and remilitarization of the Rhineland, seem like they would end there and then.   But Poland? Poland was definitely up to something. They annexed part of Czechoslovakia, and seem to have given some sort of assurances to the Germans they wouldn't intervene. They were definitely running all sorts of intelligence operations throughout the region. Their rearmament was half in secret, including weird episodes like stealing plans from France to produce unlicensed military equipment.  When Slovak and Hungarian forces clashed, I seem to recall Germany asked Poland for support if it got out of hand. I don't know, there is so much of liberal history I've yet to excise about the interwar years, it does make learning these various parts in isolation feel like a tinfoil hat, red string thing. How else are you supposed to make sense of things like the British arming Franco through Gibraltar? Czechoslovakia not being a thriving democratic society at all? Poland being a military dictatorship that was escalating in persecuting the Jews? There's no one book that's like "here's why the entire history of the antiwar years was fabricated, actually Britain and France cared exclusively about anticommunism", so, like reading Chaos or Aberration in the Heartland of the Real, there's just the contour of something. VoicesCanBe posted:I know it's been harped on over and over but I still can't wrap my head around Russia taking seven times as many casualties while outnumbering the Ukrainians 10 to 1 and the AFU having massive artillery shortages A reason you know it's bullshit (and everyone important knows it's bullshit) is that it would be so unprecedented in military history that people would be frantically researching a development that revolutionary. Small arms inflicting more casualties than crew served weapons by that amount has not happened since about 1870, so you would expect a military revolution as dramatic in the opposite direction, as militaries gave up their field guns and machine guns, and theorists developed new tactics to take advantage of the infantry rifle as the premiere weapons system. I'm not bullshitting. I can dig up my books on 1865, 1866 and 1871 about how rapidly everyone reacted to casualty figures caused by new weapons that it completely transformed war. The Boer War led to high velocity field guns going from a bit of an oddity to one of the most common weapons in major armies overnight. The Russo-Japanese War led just about every military that could afford to buying machine guns as quickly as they could. Doesn't it stand to reason that the opposite would be true as well? If what the Ukrainians are saying is true, and people believe it's true, we should see the return of 20 man infantry sections mostly armed with rifles, volley sights on rifles, etc. because that's how you would react, sensibly, to small arms inflicting so favourable an exchange. The Ukrainians are mostly on foot, so we should see other militaries drop their AFVs, since they're plainly obsolete. Entire field artillery battalions should be converting to FPV drones*, if they are not just as good as, but better than artillery, as has been reported for the past three weeks or so. *4 RCA doesn't count, that was just because they needed something to do after AAA/SAMs were obsolete in 1991. It's just exhausting, really, seeing people fall for the same line over and over. Because we know crew served weapons, mostly artillery, inflicts 90% of casualties and has for 130 years. We know who had more crew served weapons, mostly artillery, and we know how much more. Even accounting for attacking prepared positions, which KORA does, btw, we know the degree to which weapons neutralize the defender's advantage and can estimate what the relative casualties are. Anything else requires you to believe in idk metaphysics. The inherent, unmeasurable, superiority of the Ukrainians or inferiority of the Russians, or magic, basically, is the only way you can figure out how a defender armed primarily with 5.45mm small arms with an effective range of 300m could inflict greater casualties on an enemy with superior numbers of weapons with greater casualty producing effects across all ranges. It's the weekend so I can't actually gently caress around with it, but I'm positive you couldn't get KORA to produce those results at all, you would have to do something like tweak it so your troops were literally superhuman. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 17:59 on Feb 17, 2024 |
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Feb 17, 2024 17:41
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Feb 17, 2024 17:57
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Chillgamesh posted:I've just sat here typing and deleting a million dumbass replies to this but nothing I can think of encapsulates how moronically suicidal this is. evergreen post
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Feb 17, 2024 17:59
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:
I read this first part and was about to respond with the second part until i read you already wrote it. They literally just think Ukrainians have racial superiority bonus where it's like one space marine equals a platoon of regular guys, they're not approaching it like a science or even like something that requires evidence for beliefs in the first place. That all got thrown out when history ended I guess. Flournival Dixon has issued a correction as of 18:04 on Feb 17, 2024 |
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Feb 17, 2024 18:01
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FF I can’t properly link it now, but in response to your last post look up Stewart Lee’s bit about “well you can prove anything with facts”.
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Feb 17, 2024 18:04
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Flournival Dixon posted:I read this first part and was about to respond with the second part until i read you already wrote it. It's one of those things where I worry a bit. If they're just gassing up the Ukrainians to be a cost effective method of containing Russia, sure. Feed into their belief that they belong to a racially and culturally superior west. If this is just propaganda for western domestic consumption, yeah I get it. Plucky Ukraine, Marvel movies, loving whatever. The danger is if anyone important actually believes this sort of thing, because then we could get in real trouble. Idk, did they really believe the ARVN and ANA were doing great, or did they just want us to believe it? There's a pretty big difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRfnag9nAso lmao
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Feb 17, 2024 18:05
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I think only the most dead-ender NAFOs believe the 10-to-1 casualty ratio line anymore. It seems like the mainline position among the pro-Ukraine side is that the counteroffensive failed because Syrsky's doomed defense of Bakhmut hollowed out the AFU, despite the line at the time being that Russia was bleeding itself white attacking the city. Plus there's a widespread acknowledgement that Ukraine is woefully short on infantry, which can obviously only happen one way.
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Feb 17, 2024 18:09
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:It's one of those things where I worry a bit. If they're just gassing up the Ukrainians to be a cost effective method of containing Russia, sure. Feed into their belief that they belong to a racially and culturally superior west. If this is just propaganda for western domestic consumption, yeah I get it. Plucky Ukraine, Marvel movies, loving whatever. I wonder if the important people even have beliefs on the small scale, it feels to me like they just memorized all the rules of the Whether or not a single ukrainian can take out a dozen artillery positions by himself is a problem for the propaganda department.
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Feb 17, 2024 18:09
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Flournival Dixon posted:I read this first part and was about to respond with the second part until i read you already wrote it. It's just white supremacy, same as it always was, and Russians don't qualify for the "in-group"
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Feb 17, 2024 18:12
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Even the needle being threaded here by both the journalist and the professor at the UK's defence college is... incomprehensible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCAfm5Vq9c4
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Feb 17, 2024 18:15
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Even the needle being threaded here by both the journalist and the professor at the UK's defence college is... incomprehensible. It's so interesting to see rhetorical objects like this being produced for an audience that I feel just doesn't really care enough to think that hard about it in the first place. I know the Serious Understander class of people kinda require this framing for their Serious Well Informed Beliefs about the world but it's just getting so obvious and convoluted and targeted toward what feels like an ever-dwindling in-group. If this video is meant as a tool or weapon for these types of people to use as evidence in an argument or to convince someone who's feeling skeptical about this whole proxy war then I fear it might go unused in favor of accusations of paid russian disinformation agency or whatever. e: does anyone know if it's grammatically correct to use the word "agency" in regards to "the property of being an agent of a state" Flournival Dixon has issued a correction as of 18:33 on Feb 17, 2024 |
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Feb 17, 2024 18:23
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:It's one of those things where I worry a bit. If they're just gassing up the Ukrainians to be a cost effective method of containing Russia, sure. Feed into their belief that they belong to a racially and culturally superior west. If this is just propaganda for western domestic consumption, yeah I get it. Plucky Ukraine, Marvel movies, loving whatever. I think many of them do actually believe it. Remember the entire premise of the 2023 offensive was that Russian soldiers were cowardly orks who would run at the first sign of superior NATO armored vehicles If this didn't happen there literally wasn't a Plan B. So when it didn't happen...
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Feb 17, 2024 18:26
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Well, like, they describe Soviet artillery as crude, when... you know it crushed entire German army groups. They all think it was 100% done wit human waves because that's wat the nazis said.
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Feb 17, 2024 18:34
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I hope I can post this here, since it is somewhat related: the other day I met a friend that is rather "active" when it comes to the current gazza conflict. Basically posting constantly about it, going to demonstrations etc which is totally understandable. But when we talked he suddenly brought in some topics about the ukraine conflict. In his view the western world provoked russia, the Ukraine government doesn't want a peace treaty and Putin is not as mad, since he would have destroyed Ukraine way more. This rang some alarm bells in my head, thats why i have some questions here: is it true that russia is not as aggressive as it could be (e.g. in Destroying cities)? I once heard in the beginning of the war that the russia Military was not as well equipped and ready as it was believed and that in general almost no army in the world is always 100% ready in all military fields (air force, navy, ground forces etc). My second question might be even more off topic. Are the russian social media bots/troll farms also involved in the gazza conflict in the sense, that they try to take it to push such theories?
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Feb 17, 2024 18:35
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Officer Sandvich posted:This rang some alarm bells in my head, thats why i have some questions here: is it true that russia is not as aggressive as it could be (e.g. in Destroying cities)? lol I am so curious what answer they get.
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Feb 17, 2024 18:37
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:It's one of those things where I worry a bit. If they're just gassing up the Ukrainians to be a cost effective method of containing Russia, sure. Feed into their belief that they belong to a racially and culturally superior west. If this is just propaganda for western domestic consumption, yeah I get it. Plucky Ukraine, Marvel movies, loving whatever. the US government absolutely believed the ARVN were still holding their own right up to the moment they completely collapsed, which is why the final evacuation from Saigon was so ad-hoc and chaotic in Afghanistan I think the delusion at play was mostly that everyone assumed the US would just never leave, and so it didn't matter that neither the Afghan government nor military actually existed in any meaningful sense Mister Bates has issued a correction as of 18:45 on Feb 17, 2024 |
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Feb 17, 2024 18:41
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/LiamYidDem/status/1758696392275468294?t=sTTRGHvjGOwWM1f1NkOVKA&s=19 Hundreds of thousands of ethnic groups? I didn't know the USSR was that diverse
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Feb 17, 2024 18:54
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:lol I am so curious what answer they get. quote:Russia still is just as brutal as the were at the start of the war - it's just that you aren't hearing it as much because Russia hasn't made any massive territorial gains since the first few months of the war that would allow them to rape and murder civilians, and because the news cycle right now is focused on what's happening on Israel and Palestine. quote:Your friend is correct in exactly one aspect, that Russia still could have warcrimed even harder, but that is like saying they only killed and raped 70% of what they could. It could be worse, sure, but that isn't really the gotcha anyone should ever try to go for. Israel certainly have them beat in speedrunning the crimes against humanity department, but that has more to do with the disparity in military power. quote:There's a fine tradition of westerners who support Palestine harassing random Ukrainians online and plastering "what about Palestine" under every post about Ukraine.
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Feb 17, 2024 18:55
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Oh, they are using "ethnic" as an adjective. That's... not a red flag
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Feb 17, 2024 18:55
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Zaluzhnyi got out just in time.
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It's extremely simple: Pilsudski was just Horthy except he was in Germany's way
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Feb 17, 2024 19:07
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Officer Sandvich posted:The Ukrainian government not wanting a peace deal at the moment is 100% understandable, since any treaty they could reach right now would a) make them permanently lose large parts of their country b) still lead to another war of Russian aggression once they rebuilt their army. Oh, okay then. What's the plan?
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Flournival Dixon posted:
quote:At the disproportionate rate of kills from the Ukrainians, it wouldn't have to be equal. They are smarter, more capable, more effective, more creative, and more determined. They could easily win with less than their foe. This is not a secret, but the West always finds a way to keep it from happening.
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supersnowman posted:They are smarter, more capable, more effective, more creative, and more determined. Strangely all things that can't be quantified. Weird.
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