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Asterite34
May 19, 2009



Casimir Radon posted:

I can’t recall Anubis ever being depicted as a bad guy. Doesn’t really seem to get equated with Satan like Hades tends to.

He gets referred to a bunch in The Mummy Returns as a kinda vaguely satanic figure where The Rock sold his soul to him to get an invincible CGI army and also a hosed up CGI scorpion body. But he ALSO took away the OP magic powers of Imhotep before he could fight The Rock and Brendan Frasier because I guess he wanted to keep the fight sorta even? So I guess in the final assessment he's generally kinda dark but at least has a legalistic sense of fairness

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Depictions of Egyptian gods get weird by default because there's literally thousands of years of religion and mythology and storytelling around them being worshipped in all kinds of different ways under different names in different places, there's crossover with the Greek and Roman gods in lategame, and classical religion in general is often confusing to modern sensibilities because it functions very differently to what we think of as religion- indeed, quite a bit of the Old Testament rules and beliefs are specifically instructions to not treat their own god the same way they'd treat other classical gods, like invoking their name as basically a spell. (the idea of magic and religion being separate things is also actually very new, on that note)

Also still funny that the Egyptian gods already had a designated bad guy figure if you want one, either with Apep or Set, the latter in that interesting Loki-like position of the god who's always making trouble of some kind or another and is often at odds with the other gods in the stories but considered integral to it. (Of course, it's often suspected that a lot of depictions of Loki are from attempts to Christianise the myths adding a bunch of poo poo to try to make him a Satan figure)

Modern depictions are starting to get a bit smarter about it; see also Ares being the antagonist of Wonder Woman, and fitting the role way better. (The og Ares flat out has more in common with Khorne than the whole honour and glory idea we have of him, blame the Romans probably) Or just having all the Olympians be jerks, which is also fitting. There's quite a lot of stories about people messing with the gods and getting away with it if they had the moral high ground, that's basically Odysseus' whole thing. (eventually)

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Yu-Gi-Oh! as well, it's not as common but still pretty much the 'god of death=evil' treatment in trashy fantasy media.

To be fair, that wasn't the actual god, just an evil sorcerer using his name. Anubis himself is only ever vaguely mentioned in the context of the weighing of the heart and how humanity kinda sorta hosed up Big Time by using magic to emulate it so we could judge living people.

High Warlord Zog
Dec 12, 2012

Robot Style posted:

Maybe they've got a ton of uncredited script doctoring experience, so they end up on these awful movies because a good film wouldn't need their involvement.

This wouldn't surprise me. All of their films seem like things where whoever wrote them had to take a lot of notes and turn in a lot of revised scripts.

Hasturtium
May 19, 2020

And that year, for his birthday, he got six pink ping pong balls in a little pink backpack.

FlamingLiberal posted:

Wasn't Power Rangers also super loaded with bad product placement?

The color grading and aesthetic were more offensive to me, but yes. You’d have thought it was a joint venture with Krispy Kreme.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Not sure who to blame for the Madame Web script but could be Tom Rothman. He has been known to make a lot of really questionable decisions in regards to superhero movies.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Ccs posted:

Not sure who to blame for the Madame Web script but could be Tom Rothman. He has been known to make a lot of really questionable decisions in regards to superhero movies.

They could have gotten the "Giant spider shows up" guy but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Ccs posted:

Not sure who to blame for the Madame Web script but could be Tom Rothman. He has been known to make a lot of really questionable decisions in regards to superhero movies.

ive hated this man since he decided avp should be pg-13

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Grendels Dad posted:

They could have gotten the "Giant spider shows up" guy but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

He would have sexually harassed the entire cast

Monica Bellucci
Dec 14, 2022
The spider is the fiercest sexual harasser in the animal kingdom.

High Warlord Zog
Dec 12, 2012
https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1758686922376147107

The future of Sony's spidermovies they have to make to keep the IP is going to become extentions of bits people liked in Spiderverse isn't it?

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


High Warlord Zog posted:

https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1758686922376147107

The future of Sony's spidermovies they have to make to keep the IP is going to become extentions of bits people liked in Spiderverse isn't it?
That’s at least a concept I could get behind. Their track record means there’s a good chance they’d gently caress it up in execution though.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Yea but Cage would ham it the gently caress up and it would be worth it for that alone.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Invalid Validation posted:

Yea but Cage would ham it the gently caress up and it would be worth it for that alone.

Even Cage wasn't enough to save ghost rider.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Even Cage wasn't enough to save ghost rider.

No, but it would have been worse with anyone else.

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


I've heard he might be doing a voiceover thing of older Spider-Man Noir

There was a Silk series in development too but everyone but the showrunner got fired and will be replaced. These shows will air on Amazon Prime

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

High Warlord Zog posted:

https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1758686922376147107

The future of Sony's spidermovies they have to make to keep the IP is going to become extentions of bits people liked in Spiderverse isn't it?

I mean, they're doing worse already so might as well take stuff from actual good movies.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
Power Rangers starts strong and finishes strong. The problem is the middle, which grinds to an absolute halt and takes way too loving long. It's about ten minutes woth of plot stretched out and the cast aren't given enough character stuff to make it interesting.

Zero One posted:

High Evolutionary.

Is the high evolutionary supposed to be an example of a strong villain that you're please they were able to introduce?

BodyMassageMachine posted:

This is just Patton Oswalt’s citizen filibuster from Parks and Rec (which was oddly prescient considering how the Star Wars and Marvel stuff has all unfolded):

https://youtu.be/5BBhNkywMJY?feature=shared

Edit: While I’m very over the Marvel movies/superhero stuff in general, the Fantastic Four cast is great so I may give it a chance. Ebon Moss-Bachrach was excellent in The Bear, happy he’s getting a good payday even if he’s mostly just voice acting.

The casts are pretty much always good. Look at the insane talent behind aggressively mediocre poo poo like Black Panther or Shang Chi or the Captain America show. Full of up and comers, established talent and elder statesmen and women of acting. All in the service of forgettable 'content'.

Zero One posted:

High Evolutionary.

Is the high evolutionary supposed to be an example of a strong villain that you're please they were able to introduce?

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Madame web: “spider noir we need you for the spider verse initiative”

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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High Evolutionary owns. He’s just evil. Has no And you want to see him get hosed up.

So good

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Tars Tarkas posted:

There was a Silk series in development too but everyone but the showrunner got fired and will be replaced. These shows will air on Amazon Prime

Feel like if everyone but the showrunner got fired it may of been the showrunner who was the issue.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

Snowman_McK posted:


Is the high evolutionary supposed to be an example of a strong villain that you're please they were able to introduce?

Yes.

Snowman_McK posted:


Is the high evolutionary supposed to be an example of a strong villain that you're please they were able to introduce?

Absolutely yes.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The High Evolutionary wasn't even half as hard to deal with as the massive humanitarian catastrophe left in his wake.

Actually I rather like how they take a more realistic approach to that kind of character; what kind of person creates- and destroys- entire species and civilizations on a whim, messes around with sentient beings to see what would happen and considers himself the architect of the apex of evolution? A mix between Mengele and Musk, that's what, with the obvious god complex, and also just because he's a talented scientist doesn't mean he can actually do all the work himself, hence why he's got an entire space megacorporation actually making money for him and experts, scientists and specialists who round out his skillset... but he clearly hates giving anyone else any credit, hence the biggest grudge he has against Rocket is him being smarter.

Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Feb 18, 2024

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

dr_rat posted:

Feel like if everyone but the showrunner got fired it may of been the showrunner who was the issue.

Amazon has been itching it shut that specific writers room down since the strike, possibly since they acquired MGM since this was originally an MGM show, to the point where there was some sort of legal drama over it.

Angela Kang, the showrunner, is actually quite good and fairly respected in the industry IIRC. She's certainly the only person who's ever been able to draw blood from the stone that is The Walking Dead.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Even Cage wasn't enough to save ghost rider.

Spirit of Vengeance was very fun and insane

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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It’s disappointing and awful thanks to a bad script they had to use and a pg13 rating

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I'm not sure why a Ghost Rider movie would need to be an R, he's not Blade

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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It should’ve been crank level insane.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



Like, what is added to an R-rated Ghost Rider movie that would have made it better? Ghost Rider saying "gently caress"? Ghost Rider gorily chopping people's heads off? Ghost Rider sex scene?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Asterite34 posted:

Like, what is added to an R-rated Ghost Rider movie that would have made it better? Ghost Rider saying "gently caress"? Ghost Rider gorily chopping people's heads off? Ghost Rider sex scene?

All of that, yeah

Come And See
Sep 15, 2008

We're all awash in a sea of blood, and the least we can do is wave to each other.


So... Drive Angry?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Asterite34 posted:

Like, what is added to an R-rated Ghost Rider movie that would have made it better? Ghost Rider saying "gently caress"? Ghost Rider gorily chopping people's heads off? Ghost Rider sex scene?
Crank but with a flaming skull

vegetables
Mar 10, 2012

I don’t know anything about Ghost Rider, but as an outsider it seems very obvious that a man with a flaming skull who rides a motorcycle would appeal to an R-Rated crowd— and would feel like he belongs in a world full of R-Rated things

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Y’all hung up on ghost rider. I’m hung up on the directors work better when they don’t have a rating hanging over their head!!

N/T forever in my heart but always sad that was their last film together and it was so weak

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
The second Ghost Rider might have been a disappointment when measured against what it could have been, but it was miles better than the first Ghost Rider which was one of those garbage 2000s-rear end superhero movies where you could just hear Evanescence blasting when you saw a single frame.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


One thing I liked about the second Ghost Rider was how his design came off as more "demon-y" where in the first one his design was way too clean.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Y’all hung up on crank goddamn goons have never seen another movie

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
Lol you tell um!

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯

Alan Smithee posted:

Y’all hung up on crank goddamn goons have never seen another movie

If goons know anything, it's Crank n hogs

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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Alan Smithee posted:

Y’all hung up on crank goddamn goons have never seen another movie

I’ve seen other movies

I’ve seen gamer

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