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GazChap
Dec 4, 2004

I'm hungry. Feed me.

monolithburger posted:

The whole thing looked cool as gently caress though


I got an IBM NetVista All-in-One PC for winning a country-wide competition here in the UK back in 2001 (National IT User of the Year, lolol)



I was a die-hard Amiga user at the time, so I just sold it. No idea how good it was.

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dobbymoodge
Mar 8, 2005

GazChap posted:

back in 2001

GazChap posted:

I was a die-hard Amiga user at the time

:stonk:

I had an a1200 with a phase5 blizzard 060, ethernet, gigs of drive space etc. and even I thought of it as a retro system by 2001. Remarkable. No shade, that's just impressive. What was your rig at the time? PPC with a PCI daughterboard?

GazChap
Dec 4, 2004

I'm hungry. Feed me.

dobbymoodge posted:

I had an a1200 with a phase5 blizzard 060, ethernet, gigs of drive space etc. and even I thought of it as a retro system by 2001. Remarkable. No shade, that's just impressive. What was your rig at the time? PPC with a PCI daughterboard?
I finally sold it in 2003, although I regret it somewhat as it would be worth a small fortune now.

By the time I sold it, the spec was:

Commodore (as in, not Escom) A1200, moved to an Eyetech tower case
Blizzard 1260 68060@50MHz
16MB RAM (or might have been 32, can't remember, I never used it all that's for sure)
80GB HD
CD-RW
Mediator PCI daughterboard, fitted with:
Voodoo 3 3000
SoundBlaster
Ethernet

I never did upgrade to PowerPC, although I did manage to acquire a Blizzard 604e(?) PPC accelerator with an '060 on board, but it was cheap because the PPC processor was hosed, and I could never raise the additional funds needed to get Blizzard to repair it.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



Why would an old amiga be worth a fortune now? Just as a collector's item or some other reason?

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


I guess it's a function of quantity x condition, working famiclones are probably quite common and therefore inexpensive but a late PowerPc in good condition...

GazChap
Dec 4, 2004

I'm hungry. Feed me.

AFewBricksShy posted:

Why would an old amiga be worth a fortune now? Just as a collector's item or some other reason?
'Retro' models like the Amiga are, for some reason, worth a lot more now in the UK. Not entirely sure why, I don't think they're particularly collectors items or anything.

But yeah, I sold that entire set up for... I think, £300 back in 2003.

Nowadays, just the basic computer itself (without all the upgrades, and recapped) would be closer to £400, the 68060 accelerator card would potentially be around £750-£1,000 (mostly due to rarity I imagine) and the various other components would be valuable too -- obviously the SIMM, hard drive, CD-ROM and PCI cards would probably be close to worthless though.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




AFewBricksShy posted:

Why would an old amiga be worth a fortune now? Just as a collector's item or some other reason?

Amigas are a very active retro group. There's an active scene and they are getting more rare.

I have a couple of Amigas I bought around 2015 for around $150 a piece. They would probably sell for $400-$500 now easily.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
I just looked at the SA Mart ratings thread, and I sold FF3 for $24 shipped, 20 years ago.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Laserdisc scores of the day. Got em both for $15 total.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

GazChap posted:

I finally sold it in 2003, although I regret it somewhat as it would be worth a small fortune now.

By the time I sold it, the spec was:

Commodore (as in, not Escom) A1200, moved to an Eyetech tower case
Blizzard 1260 68060@50MHz
16MB RAM (or might have been 32, can't remember, I never used it all that's for sure)
80GB HD
CD-RW
Mediator PCI daughterboard, fitted with:
Voodoo 3 3000
SoundBlaster
Ethernet

I never did upgrade to PowerPC, although I did manage to acquire a Blizzard 604e(?) PPC accelerator with an '060 on board, but it was cheap because the PPC processor was hosed, and I could never raise the additional funds needed to get Blizzard to repair it.

Holy poo poo an 060 accelerator

I picked up my A1200 with all the Workbench 3.0 disks, PSU and mouse for AU$200 in 2003. Now the model number stands for how much people sell one in dollars these days

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Oh teen me would be so into this, both stylish and practical!

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
Sony has the best loving designers

coldpudding
May 14, 2009

FORUM GHOST
That's cool as gently caress but at the same time I feel like I'd break one of the wires five minutes after getting it.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

:monocle:

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.


Are the earbuds hard wired, or do you still have to plug them into the jack?

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

tribbledirigible posted:

Are the earbuds hard wired, or do you still have to plug them into the jack?

I can't see a consumer-facing way to both get the end of the headphones out of that hole, nor get them back in once you got them out. My guess is they are hardwired but the headphone jack is there to use your own headphones if you'd like.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



They're not hardwired. Not even Sony was that stupid.

E: you could open the lid.


It's the WM-51 and being from 1987 it long predates the ~2001 Sony fad of selling Fontopia earphones coming in winding cases that I'm confusing this with. Apparently these are hardwired after all, sorry.

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Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.


It still bugs me a little that audio cabling and aircraft lighting have opposite conventions. Red means right side audio, but red also means left wingtip.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Powered Descent posted:

It still bugs me a little that audio cabling and aircraft lighting have opposite conventions. Red means right side audio, but red also means left wingtip.

Surely the aircraft lighting is inherited from ship lanterns? Red is port, green is starboard.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Groke posted:

Surely the aircraft lighting is inherited from ship lanterns? Red is port, green is starboard.

Yes, it is. (Even some sci-fi spaceships follow the standard -- a lot of Star Trek ships have colored running lights on the correct sides, for example.)

Which of course means it's the dastardly audio industry that broke the longstanding convention and put red on the wrong side. There's a little red port left in the bottle, drat it! :argh:

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

e: Quote is not edit

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Flipperwaldt posted:

They're not hardwired. Not even Sony was that stupid.

E: you could open the lid.


It's the WM-51 and being from 1987 it long predates the ~2001 Sony fad of selling Fontopia earphones coming in winding cases that I'm confusing this with. Apparently these are hardwired after all, sorry.

Nah it's all good, I don't actually know about this stuff. I just assumed that there would be no easy way to have a flip open lid on the spinny part without an obvious hinge, nor why they'd have the buds stick out of the storage bin like that for style when it would clearly be a lot easier to have them fully contained. Thanks for the link!

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/theDuncanMackay/status/1758918509189275802?s=20

https://twitter.com/DaveDaoggio/status/1758956292914237643?s=20

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Reminds me of this guy. He was a student in the 1890s, and found a neat camera he could hide under his vest (with just the small lens poking through a button hole). He used it to do stealth street photography of more or less famous people - and pretty ladies.

Here's Henrik Ibsen:


There's also way more photos here

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George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




Computer viking posted:

He used it to do stealth street photography of more or less famous people - and pretty ladies.

Voyeur....voyeur never changes

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

Powered Descent posted:

It still bugs me a little that audio cabling and aircraft lighting have opposite conventions. Red means right side audio, but red also means left wingtip.

What bugs me is that you clearly need to manually wind it instead of it retracting like a vacuum cleaner power cord.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Flipperwaldt posted:

They're not hardwired. Not even Sony was that stupid.

E: you could open the lid.


It's the WM-51 and being from 1987 it long predates the ~2001 Sony fad of selling Fontopia earphones coming in winding cases that I'm confusing this with. Apparently these are hardwired after all, sorry.

Before I got wireless buds I spent many years searching for more J-Style earbuds where the cord would go over your neck, which made it much easier to take out when your mom was yelling at you to take those loving things out you wanted to. I can't think of why they didn't become the standard style except for it was a Sony patent thing.

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

Gonna watch Matilda on laserdisc tonight. Thought you’d want to know.

Charles Ford
Nov 27, 2004

The Earth is a farm. We are someone else’s Ford Focus.
On the subject of video mediums I was just thinking about the first VCR my dad owned, the third entry in the "VHS versus Betamax" war, a Philips V-2000 (or Video 2000, based on the logo) top loader, with optional remote control (the IR receiver plugged into a little port on the bottom of the front panel, as seemed to be a theme with Philips back then, he also had their second ever hifi CD player where the IR receiver was an enormous pyramid you plugged in the back).

We had a bunch of home movies for it, including Airplane, Saturday the 14th, and a tape filled with ancient old cartoons including one where Mighty Mouse visits the pyramids in Egypt, which my parents had bought from the local rental place after V-2000 failed in the marketplace (there was probably a higher number of them than average in our town because Philips had a major presence there at the time, and employees including my dad could buy them at a discount from the company shop).

The machine was really interesting though - it had support for stereo, automatic tracking using piezo-mounted heads (a feature VHS didn't get until the late '90s), a digital track if you just wanted to embed some kind of digital data alongside the video and audio, and most weirdly of all, you could record on both sides of the tape, it used literally half the "width" of VHS to store everything. My dad was actually curious about this as VHS was much lower quality than V2000 so he took apart a VHS cassette and spooled the tape itself (which was the same specification, so it fit) into a V2000 cassette, and it worked perfectly, including recording on both sides. Apparently the V2000 also moved the tape at 2.44cm/s versus the VHS 3.335cm/s, so VHS just wasted media.

What this really meant is that 10 year old me used the B sides of all the commercially recorded cassettes to record cartoons. The cassettes also looked bonkers because they could be used from either side, but still had a mech to protect the tape.

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Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Charles Ford posted:


The machine was really interesting though - it had support for stereo, automatic tracking using piezo-mounted heads (a feature VHS didn't get until the late '90s), a digital track if you just wanted to embed some kind of digital data alongside the video and audio, and most weirdly of all, you could record on both sides of the tape, it used literally half the "width" of VHS to store everything. My dad was actually curious about this as VHS was much lower quality than V2000 so he took apart a VHS cassette and spooled the tape itself (which was the same specification, so it fit) into a V2000 cassette, and it worked perfectly, including recording on both sides. Apparently the V2000 also moved the tape at 2.44cm/s versus the VHS 3.335cm/s, so VHS just wasted media.

thank you, your whole post was fascinating

but what the gently caress

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




Ah, V2000, a continous source of national pride. Objectively better than VHS, but just too drat expensive.

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer

Charles Ford posted:

On the subject of video mediums I was just thinking about the first VCR my dad owned, the third entry in the "VHS versus Betamax" war, a Philips V-2000 (or Video 2000, based on the logo) top loader, with optional remote control (the IR receiver plugged into a little port on the bottom of the front panel, as seemed to be a theme with Philips back then, he also had their second ever hifi CD player where the IR receiver was an enormous pyramid you plugged in the back).

We had a bunch of home movies for it, including Airplane, Saturday the 14th, and a tape filled with ancient old cartoons including one where Mighty Mouse visits the pyramids in Egypt, which my parents had bought from the local rental place after V-2000 failed in the marketplace (there was probably a higher number of them than average in our town because Philips had a major presence there at the time, and employees including my dad could buy them at a discount from the company shop).

The machine was really interesting though - it had support for stereo, automatic tracking using piezo-mounted heads (a feature VHS didn't get until the late '90s), a digital track if you just wanted to embed some kind of digital data alongside the video and audio, and most weirdly of all, you could record on both sides of the tape, it used literally half the "width" of VHS to store everything. My dad was actually curious about this as VHS was much lower quality than V2000 so he took apart a VHS cassette and spooled the tape itself (which was the same specification, so it fit) into a V2000 cassette, and it worked perfectly, including recording on both sides. Apparently the V2000 also moved the tape at 2.44cm/s versus the VHS 3.335cm/s, so VHS just wasted media.

What this really meant is that 10 year old me used the B sides of all the commercially recorded cassettes to record cartoons. The cassettes also looked bonkers because they could be used from either side, but still had a mech to protect the tape.



Nidhg00670000 posted:

I have an actual Philips Video2000 player in my attic right now. The only physical memorabilia I have of my great grandma, in fact.

Correction; It is a Grundig Video 2×4. Still a Video2000 player, but not a Philips.

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

GoutPatrol posted:

Before I got wireless buds I spent many years searching for more J-Style earbuds where the cord would go over your neck, which made it much easier to take out when your mom was yelling at you to take those loving things out you wanted to. I can't think of why they didn't become the standard style except for it was a Sony patent thing.

Do you mean something like in ear monitors?

Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007



Speaking of headphones, I will never get over the Motorola S305s being discontinued. They are the perfect set of headphones for me and I can never get them again. I have a saved search on eBay for them and there are listings every few days where it's like $70 for a set of used ones or an auction that gets bid way up so others are looking for them too. I've bought 3 of them over a decade ago and they were only $25 a piece new.

There was a pair listed for $30 with free shipping today but I didn't open the listing in time. "Sport" style on-ear headphones went out of fashion years ago and there are no good ones being made. I've tried a few sets and they all suck rear end and fold up or are uncomfortable.

I still have two S305s but the batteries only hold a charge for 2 hours tops, they are falling apart and missing buttons and I've had to fix the neckbands with epoxy several times.

That's my headphones story.

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Computer viking posted:

Reminds me of this guy. He was a student in the 1890s, and found a neat camera he could hide under his vest (with just the small lens poking through a button hole). He used it to do stealth street photography of more or less famous people - and pretty ladies.

Here's Henrik Ibsen:


There's also way more photos here

Lol what a goon.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

monolithburger posted:

Do you mean something like in ear monitors?



No, where one side was longer than the other. They went around your neck and it was easier to have one out or they were (to me at least) less likely to fall out or get pulled out. It was surprisingly hard to find a photo like this.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



GoutPatrol posted:

No, where one side was longer than the other. They went around your neck and it was easier to have one out or they were (to me at least) less likely to fall out or get pulled out. It was surprisingly hard to find a photo like this.

I got Sennheiser CX 300-II in 2010 that were like this. I thought this was really common, but I don't really know. It's like a taboo to make a promotional picture that shows the whole cord apparently.

I hated j-style until I learned about these little clips that let you attach the split point to your collar.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
My trash tier ones have a thing that let u adjust the length of each ear individually

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wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
I just drank some Ovaltine.

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