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Spanish Manlove posted:How's the incendiary shotgun in the premium battle pass? I like the explosive AR so far but am slowly saving up for other options the incendiary shotgun is pretty dope and probably the best gun in the premium pass but by all accounts the regular auto shotty is a better choice Au Revoir Shosanna fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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I created a destroyer named “Queen of Democracy.” GOAT 11/10 A++ would buy again. PSN: Doczero Helldivers 2 friend code: 8213-0978 Is there a different thread for multiplayer and finding goons to play with? Doctor Zero fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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Exodee posted:Apparently if you join someone that's already in-game via the Steam friendslist it'll bypass the login queue This actually makes sense. Instead of having the server create a new session for you you're just jumping into an already existing one. That's good to know though
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please i beg this thread, stop min maxing the funny bug game
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PIZZA.BAT posted:This actually makes sense. Instead of having the server create a new session for you you're just jumping into an already existing one. That's good to know though It doesn't work for me at least. If I try to join on someone I get the black screen startup that never loads.
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ijyt posted:please i beg this thread, stop min maxing the funny bug game I will never stop maximizing liberty while minimizing the amount of living threats to liberty
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I've watched the pelican repeatedly try to land on an evac covered in bile titans and slowly bonk one over the head over and over, slowly pushing it into the floor, until it could land
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Spanish Manlove posted:How's the incendiary shotgun in the premium battle pass? I like the explosive AR so far but am slowly saving up for other options Oh boy a third write-up! Once again, Bug-centric info only. The Breaker Incendiary is like a half-damage Breaker with more ammo. It's cone of fire is much larger and the incendiary property of the shot extends out quite a ways, but the fire does little damage and doesn't last long enough to kill Medium bugs. As a Get Out of Jail Free option as described in the Slugger write-up above, the BI is lacking in a key way. Yes, it will delete all those little guys around you and maybe even better than the standard Breaker, but at the cost of significantly lengthening the time it takes to kill the medium bugs, including the front-armored Hiveguard. It is an inferior Reactive Weapon than the Breaker. From what I've heard from first-hand goon experience, the Breaker Incendiary is better used as a specialized Proactive Weapon to fire short-mid range at chaff. If will kill a lot of small enemies with fewer shots than the Breaker, provided they are close enough together. Is that worth not being able to save yourself from the surprise back attack of 5 medium enemies at once?  I wish we weren't living in a Breaker Supremacy world (at least for bugs) but every time I take another weapon I wish I took the baseline Breaker instead.
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Neat, thanks guys. I'll save my 60 freedom coins and get more dolly dress up items. Btw the twitch drop armor is pretty drat good because of extra med kits, without looking too stupid
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Ideally when the servers are no longer on fire they can look into gun balance and bring other guns up to the level of the Breaker, because more guns need to be able to get poo poo done quickly without having to reload several times first.
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Spanish Manlove posted:How's the incendiary shotgun in the premium battle pass? I like the explosive AR so far but am slowly saving up for other options I prefer the normal Breacher. The flame variant has insane spread on its shells which means you can't hit poo poo from outside 10 meters or so. It does set poo poo on fire though.
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Draven posted:It doesn't work for me at least. If I try to join on someone I get the black screen startup that never loads.
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Baby T. Love posted:Oh boy a third write-up! Once again, Bug-centric info only. The Breaker Incendiary is like a half-damage Breaker with more ammo. It's cone of fire is much larger and the incendiary property of the shot extends out quite a ways, but the fire does little damage and doesn't last long enough to kill Medium bugs. As a Get Out of Jail Free option as described in the Slugger write-up above, the BI is lacking in a key way. Yes, it will delete all those little guys around you and maybe even better than the standard Breaker, but at the cost of significantly lengthening the time it takes to kill the medium bugs, including the front-armored Hiveguard. It is an inferior Reactive Weapon than the Breaker. From what I've heard from first-hand goon experience, the Breaker Incendiary is better used as a specialized Proactive Weapon to fire short-mid range at chaff. If will kill a lot of small enemies with fewer shots than the Breaker, provided they are close enough together. Is that worth not being able to save yourself from the surprise back attack of 5 medium enemies at once?
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ijyt posted:please i beg this thread, stop min maxing the funny bug game You don't really have a choice if you're playing on Helldive.
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idiotsavant posted:Nah AMR is fine vs bots at least until you get the Autocannon, and even then it's ok if you want to run a backpack too. Yeah, I think AMR is a bit of an unsung hero. Is it as good as the Autocannon/Railgun in terms of damage? Absolutely not. But it has the same penetration characteristics of the Autocannon (albeit less damage) without taking up a backpack slot. Compared to the Railgun, it also allows you to use a backpack but has a ton more ammo, which can make it handy to have around when Resupply drops have much greater intervals between them and there isn't as much ammo scattered around the maps. It still does work against Automatons because you can use it to shoot off the arms of Hulks. It should not be your fireteam's only answer to big threats (you really need someone with a recoilless, railgun, or EAT to break armor on parts to enable the AMR to do work on the larger targets just like you would with the Autocannon) but it's still a fine Support weapon. Now what I want to speak up in favor of is the Guard Dog that uses the AR and not the laser rifle. Comparatively speaking, that thing does not inflict anywhere near as much friendly fire as the laser variant, although it is hungry for Resupply Drops as that's the only way to replenish its ammo short of dropping another backpack. Still very effective at cleaning up chaff though, and again the fact that it is really hard to get it to friendly fire since it's not sweeping a beam across the battlefield is admirable.
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:I prefer the normal Breacher. The flame variant has insane spread on its shells which means you can't hit poo poo from outside 10 meters or so. It does set poo poo on fire though. I've been using the explosive round AR from the pass and the grenade launcher, but haven't been able to get past level 5 due to grouping issues. But in the times when I've been playing they do some serious work so far.
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Durzel posted:Apropos of nothing but I feel like the Breaker is ok in terms of utility, it just feels like almost everything else is worse. Hopefully that means we see some gentle tweaking upwards of the other stuff, or more specialism, rather than flattening the Breaker. It would probably not be very well received but I think flat lowering the damage of the Breaker by up to 1/3 and then maybe increasing the magazine or number of magazines slightly would make the Bug game better on the whole.
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how do you use recoilless rifle? i'm on ps5 but I can't hold triangle to switch to support weapon, it only switches to my handgun and back
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Spanish Manlove posted:How's the incendiary shotgun in the premium battle pass? I like the explosive AR so far but am slowly saving up for other options Every single person i've played with who uses it is someone i've had to constantly watch to A) Make sure they don't set me on fire and 2) Shoot all the hunter bugs that inevitably swarm them because instant damage is garbage and 2.a) to see when they open up on some patrol of bugs so I can actually kill them before they breach. Baby T. Love posted:It would probably not be very well received but I think flat lowering the damage of the Breaker by up to 1/3 and then maybe increasing the magazine or number of magazines slightly would make the Bug game better on the whole. While that would be the easiest way to bring them all in line, I would argue they should bring up the rest of the guns instead.
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hey mom its 420 posted:how do you use recoilless rifle? i'm on ps5 but I can't hold triangle to switch to support weapon, it only switches to my handgun and back HD2 key bindings often distinguish between a tap, press, long press, hold, and double tap of a button, all as different functions. check in your bindings that switching to your shoulder support weapon isn't set up as one of those. there's also an option in the menu for 'classic HD' weapon switching which is tap for switch to support, hold for switch to sidearm. Also the RR comes with a backpack of shells that can be slowly reloaded on your own, or the backpack can be worn by a friend for team assisted reloads.
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ah ok will check that thanks!
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Bland posted:You don't really have a choice if you're playing on Helldive. I'm not because I haven't been able to get into the game enough to get past level 10 
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Game needs way more secondary weapons. Your choices are effectively: - a weak normal pistol - a much better smg - an okay handcannon that takes years to reload (only available if you ground out or bought the premium bond) ...and all of them have extremely limited ammo pools. Give me more interesting and viable secondaries so I don't have to always bring the most optimal primary or die horribly. Hell, I'd even be okay with the current options if they had, like, double the available ammo so I could actually use the drat things for more than a single surprise patrol.
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For as hype about this game as people seem to be, the actual combat is… not inspiring. The guns are bland, there’s only a tiny handful of them, and there’s no melee combat or anything to break it up; at best you have a moderately-interesting support weapon. The bulk of the fun is stratagems, and most of those are effectively just really big grenades. Don’t get me wrong, throwing a really big grenade is fun! But there’s only so much playtime you can wring out of it. And the ship upgrades are all boring passives, so once you’ve unlocked all the stratagems you like there’s nowhere to go. e: one effect of the shift to 3D from topdown is the loss of immediacy. You can spot bases from a long distance, throw a ton of eagle strikes on them, and never have to actually go in and fight up close. megane fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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megane posted:For as hype about this game as people seem to be, the actual combat is… not inspiring. The guns are bland, there’s only a tiny handful of them, and there’s no melee combat or anything to break it up; at best you have a moderately-interesting support weapon. The bulk of the fun is stratagems, and most of those are effectively just really big grenades. Don’t get me wrong, throwing a really big grenade is fun! But there’s only so much playtime you can wring out of it. And the ship upgrades are all boring passives, so once you’ve unlocked all the stratagems you like there’s nowhere to go. syq
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Diephoon posted:A Pelican FF I see a lot is people getting blasted by the Pelican's guns as it lands. It is functionally a sentry at that moment. My first sentry experience involved throwing one forward while running from bugs, it turned around and cut me in half. But it got those shithead bugs, the only good bug is a dead bug. I did my part.
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Spanish Manlove posted:How's the incendiary shotgun in the premium battle pass? I like the explosive AR so far but am slowly saving up for other options Better against bugs. Terrible against bots. The standard breaker is better.
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ijyt posted:please i beg this thread, stop min maxing the funny bug game 
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sushibandit posted:pistols If I recall the first game had a handheld flamethrower, a burst-fire pistol, and a plasma pistol. Hopefully those come back. Actually maybe you can set the default pistol to burst-fire, I have never checked.
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I will minmax. If those with me dont, thats fine as long as everyone has fun. Running level 4 friends through Extremes is a blast for everyone involved
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JBP posted:You can pick up any gun. The premium pass isn't necessarily paid either, you can pick up super credits and save them to buy it. Between the Autocannon and Dominator I finally feel confident against bots. Man these scientist extraction missions are so easy with competent players and nearly impossible with newbies. If you’re under level 6ish it seems wise to stick with bug planets since you likely haven’t unlocked the bot centric shooty guns.
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CainFortea posted:While that [Breaker nerfs] would be the easiest way to bring them all in line, I would argue they should bring up the rest of the guns instead. This is the kind of game where it would be 100% appropriate to just... make everything else better instead of nerfing a single thing. The idea is that we're somewhat fragile spacefolks with access to hilariously powerful weapons and the ability to call down absurdly devastating hellfire from an orbiting spaceship. Making all of the guns more powerful makes them more dangerous to us as well as the bugs/bots!
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LuiCypher posted:This is the kind of game where it would be 100% appropriate to just... make everything else better instead of nerfing a single thing. The idea is that we're somewhat fragile spacefolks with access to hilariously powerful weapons and the ability to call down absurdly devastating hellfire from an orbiting spaceship. Making all of the guns more powerful makes them more dangerous to us as well as the bugs/bots! Absolutely agreed
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Wish the game remembered aim modes as well as fire modes. I suck so I need to look down the scope when using the Railgun in unsafe mode, as I can't reliably see the heat buildup otherwise, but I don't bother using the scope on other guns generally. Also whether it remembers safe or unsafe mode seems to be hit and miss as well, even though I have it set up in the options as "Per Weapon".
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Doctor Zero posted:Is there a different thread for multiplayer and finding goons to play with? No, but all the large Goon/Goon-frequented gaming Discords have @ Helldiver notification roles to join. You will probably want to hop in the Playstation Goon Discord at the very least, if you haven't already. https://discord.gg/PW5TYbkAbC It what the expired Discord invite in OP was pointing to.
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megane posted:e: one effect of the shift to 3D from topdown is the loss of immediacy. Tell me you've never been pounced by 6 hunters without saying you've never been pounced by 6 hunters. Durzel posted:Wish the game remembered aim modes as well as fire modes. It can. It's a setting. CainFortea posted:And yea, it's under options > gameplay > Remember Aim Mode
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Basticle posted:https://i.imgur.com/7PW3FXK.mp4 I apologize for NOTHING. https://i.imgur.com/syWK6R4.mp4 (sound on)
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Haptical Sales Slut posted:Between the Autocannon and Dominator I finally feel confident against bots. They're easier now and are fairly manageable if you are able to clear missions at that difficulty (and understand that Mortar Sentries are OP in that scenario). The issue was that previously even at Challenging they were dropping hilarious numbers of Hulks of both varieties alongside hordes of Devastators (especially the rocket ones). 1-2 Hulks takes some coordination to manage as a team, now multiply that by 4-5x coming from all different directions with lots of Rocket Devastators that can easily one-shot you and your Sentry emplacements on top of a withering hail of firepower that the regular grunts are churning your way that are really good at throwing off your aim if they so much as graze you. And even when you took out those Hulks, the game did not let up. The rate at which they were dropping new units was completely unmanageable, and you could not find a safe spot to settle down for more than a few seconds because there would always be another group directly behind you. LuiCypher fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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megane posted:For as hype about this game as people seem to be, the actual combat is… not inspiring. The guns are bland, there’s only a tiny handful of them, and there’s no melee combat or anything to break it up; at best you have a moderately-interesting support weapon. The bulk of the fun is stratagems, and most of those are effectively just really big grenades. Don’t get me wrong, throwing a really big grenade is fun! But there’s only so much playtime you can wring out of it. And the ship upgrades are all boring passives, so once you’ve unlocked all the stratagems you like there’s nowhere to go. You heard it folks, the game is doomed. Trust the person who has run upwards of 6 missions including 2 on the medium difficulty.
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