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I feel like even by the criteria of managing the affairs of empire, which is how I'm assuming those historians are ranking the Presidents (and they are, because they're liberals, and even subconsciously that's how liberals would judge which President is "good"), then Biden should be easily in the lower half Because Biden is speed running hegemonic collapse right now.
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VoicesCanBe posted:I feel like even by the criteria of managing the affairs of empire, which is how I'm assuming those historians are ranking the Presidents (and they are, because they're liberals, and even subconsciously that's how liberals would judge which President is "good"), then Biden should be easily in the lower half "oh so you want trmup to win????" is a powerful reason for them to not be that objective.
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Anyway if we're using a criterion like "material harm to human beings", one which I know these historians would not care about, it's incredibly obvious that Trump is vastly less harmful than Reagan or W Bush. It's not even close tbh.
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VoicesCanBe posted:I feel like even by the criteria of managing the affairs of empire, which is how I'm assuming those historians are ranking the Presidents (and they are, because they're liberals, and even subconsciously that's how liberals would judge which President is "good"), then Biden should be easily in the lower half Liberals have this weird thing where nothing is apparently Biden's fault.
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Feb 19, 2024 18:59
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Liberals have this weird thing where nothing is apparently Biden's fault. with great power comes great impunity. modern managerial thinking is to reduce real responsibility as one goes up the chain, not to increase it.
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POTUS is an incredibly important and powerful role when it's time to shame people into voting, and a totally inconsequential role when it's time to hold your own Party accountable for anything.
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they'll just say the hegemony is declining regardless and Biden is doing his best to slow it down after Trump sped it up.
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bedpan posted:with great power comes great impunity. modern managerial thinking is to reduce real responsibility as one goes up the chain, not to increase it. modern management is saying you take personal responsibility for something and then firing an underling for it
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VoicesCanBe posted:Anyway if we're using a criterion like "material harm to human beings", one which I know these historians would not care about, it's incredibly obvious that Trump is vastly less harmful than Reagan or W Bush. It's not even close tbh. From their perspective, Reagan is everyone's granddad and Bush is the cool guy who was maybe a bit of a class clown but didn't mean any harm and Trump is the school bully and basically everyone is in fifth grade forever.
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Halloween Jack posted:POTUS is an incredibly important and powerful role when it's time to shame people into voting, and a totally inconsequential role when it's time to hold your own Party accountable for anything. only for the democratic party, because they have to justify wanting and having power but not doing or wanting to do anything the voters want them to do. the republicans and third parties have no such problem.
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Mayo Pete must never be allowed to be anything more than Transport Secretary.
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Nonsense posted:Mayo Pete must never be allowed to be anything more than Transport Secretary. youll vote for cinnamon bun rat and like it
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Nonsense posted:Mayo Pete must never be allowed to be anything more than Transport Secretary. The crony ceiling. Can't ever give those people a shot at an elected position because they can't appeal to the masses. Biden in 2020 was a fluke because they had no one better to oppose Sanders and look how badly that's coming back to bite them four years later.
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LMAO at this line in the Hill's article on that pollThe Hill posted:The poll also ranked the partisan and ideological differences among respondents, with the surveyors arguing it did not “tend to make a major difference overall” in where presidents were ranked. Pure high school physics friction-less surfaces in their heads.
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SgtMongoose posted:LMAO at this line in the Hill's article on that poll Bias is only something that evil tankies have. These liberal historians are simply searching for The Truth in an enlightened, non-biased fashion.
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I tried talking to some friends about voting in the primary. They're registered independents so they can vote in either D or R. I tried asking them to vote for "noncommitted delegate" in the D race to at least try to signal for a cease fire in Gaza (the Colorado ballot doesn't have a write-in option). But instead they're completely convinced that the most important thing right now is to vote for Nikki Haley in the R race. I loving hate this poo poo.
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don't look, but i've got some terrible news about your friends. they're american.
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What's the best write-in anyway?
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Fister Roboto posted:I tried talking to some friends about voting in the primary. They're registered independents so they can vote in either D or R. I tried asking them to vote for "noncommitted delegate" in the D race to at least try to signal for a cease fire in Gaza (the Colorado ballot doesn't have a write-in option). But instead they're completely convinced that the most important thing right now is to vote for Nikki Haley in the R race. I loving hate this poo poo. Ask them if they also believe, like her, that the civil war was definitely not about slavery
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Fitzy Fitz posted:What's the best write-in anyway? Hillary
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Fitzy Fitz posted:What's the best write-in anyway? There is no reason to show up to the dem primary
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Fitzy Fitz posted:What's the best write-in anyway? Kamala D. Harris
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Fister Roboto posted:I tried talking to some friends about voting in the primary. They're registered independents so they can vote in either D or R. I tried asking them to vote for "noncommitted delegate" in the D race to at least try to signal for a cease fire in Gaza (the Colorado ballot doesn't have a write-in option). But instead they're completely convinced that the most important thing right now is to vote for Nikki Haley in the R race. I loving hate this poo poo. lol every voter thinks they're a strategist
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Fitzy Fitz posted:What's the best write-in anyway? SpiderHyphenMan
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Nichael posted:it's actually good to habitually make murder weapons and give them to nazis because that money goes to american workers making murder weapons to give to nazis They love this loving talking point, don't they.
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Trabisnikof posted:only for the democratic party, because they have to justify wanting and having power but not doing or wanting to do anything the voters want them to do. Dennis Reynold's God Hole monologue, but as an entire political ethos.
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PhilippAchtel posted:They love this loving talking point, don't they. have to fight them there so that we dont fight them here.
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PhilippAchtel posted:They love this loving talking point, don't they. Where are these well paying jobs they are investing this money in
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Gripweed posted:I think it serves as part of the overall trend towards greater criticism of Biden from generally pro-Dem circles. People can sense when someone is weak, and more and more it's clear that Biden is fair game. He's being set up as a sin eater, just like Netanyahu
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SniperWoreConverse posted:*immediately flies home* Well, yeah, the "job" was to get some nice PR photos, and that's done
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Environmental activists urging President Joe Biden to wage a stronger fight against climate change are facing an agonizing strategic decision: How hard can they push him without risking throwing the election to Donald Trump? https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/18/joe-biden-climate-activists-00142037
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Uncle Wemus posted:Where are these well paying jobs they are investing this money in It's the War Economy. PMCs, Arms Manufacturers--job creators, Uncle Wemus. And the libs will do whatever it takes to keep it humming along. Especially war.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Environmental activists urging President Joe Biden to wage a stronger fight against climate change are facing an agonizing strategic decision: How hard can they push him without risking throwing the election to Donald Trump? quote:Biden campaign spokesperson Lauren Hitt declined to discuss activists’ responses to the president’s fossil fuel moves. She said in an email that “the President’s climate policy is motivated by common sense.” quote:With Biden trailing Trump in several national polls, one of the last things the president needs is part of his base visibly causing confrontation, said Mark Longabaugh, a Democratic strategist who had advised Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Environmental activists urging President Joe Biden to wage a stronger fight against climate change are facing an agonizing strategic decision: How hard can they push him without risking throwing the election to Donald Trump? God I hate how trivially easy it was to tame the progressives.
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is pepsi ok posted:God I hate how trivially easy it was to tame the progressives. quote:Sunrise is going through an internal process of figuring out how fiercely it should push, O’Hanlon said. “It’s hard to say right now exactly how we’ll walk that line.” 99% will turn out and vote for Biden even though he shits on them and their priorities
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https://www.axios.com/2024/02/19/biden-trump-age-state-union-election Biden's reset moment quote:Biden officials see next month's State of the Union address as a big, public reset moment — a chance to overcome or at least neutralize concerns about President Biden's age and vitality.
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Officer Sandvich posted:https://www.axios.com/2024/02/19/biden-trump-age-state-union-election listening sessions? she's gonna hear you?
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Uncle Wemus posted:________ urging President Joe Biden to wage a stronger fight against ______ are facing an agonizing strategic decision: How hard can they push him without risking throwing the election to Donald Trump? rinse & repeat as needed (it'll be needed a lot).
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 young ingrates quote:Despite delivering the largest-ever investment in climate action through Congress, pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into technologies such as wind power and electric cars, Biden and his appointees have faced loud protests from activists dismayed by administration actions boosting oil and gas production.
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Willa Rogers posted:
setting up the justifications for a biden defeat
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