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X JAKK
Sep 1, 2000

We eat the pig then together we BURN
How about a superhero whose power is diplomacy and they defeat their nemesis through reasonable compromise.

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Kingo Ligma
Aug 24, 2019

Ask me about calling people racist because I failed geography.

Vim Fuego posted:

I thought it was weird in GOTG 3 how the whole planet full of sentient animal people got blown up and no one cared

Good, gently caress furries

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Video games are the next industry on the chopping block

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins
That's fine, people play too many videogames these days anyway.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000



Ultra Carp

X JAKK posted:

How about a superhero whose power is diplomacy and they defeat their nemesis through reasonable compromise.

The Middleman

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe
The best superhero movie was made in 1981, didn't need to make any more:

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

X JAKK posted:

How about a superhero whose power is diplomacy and they defeat their nemesis through reasonable compromise.

loving gross

Lister
Apr 23, 2004

X JAKK posted:

How about a superhero whose power is diplomacy and they defeat their nemesis through reasonable compromise.

They already made Star Trek: The Next Generation

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.

priznat posted:

I think GotG 3 kind of showed that Gunn’s special magic may have run dry, it was a bit of a slog and retread a lot of the previous themes in his movies etc. I didn’t love it anyway. 1 and 2 were great.

Nah. GotG 3 was better than 2. Fact.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
I absolutely loved Guardians 3, but one reason was that it brought definitive* closure to the characters and paid off a bunch of stuff exactly the way a final sequel is supposed to. So, not exactly a repeatable trick.

(Also if you wanna talk about a nasty edge, GotG 2 had a whole comedic scene of the good guys gleefully murdering a huge amount of faceless mooks while breaking out of prison. Obviously they're "antiheroes" and one of them dies at the end but it's still the most James Gunn-y scene in the franchise by far.)


* as definitive as anyone is allowed to be in the multiverse era, anyway

Sir Lemming fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Feb 20, 2024

Nefarious 2.0
Apr 22, 2008

Offense is overrated anyway.

Failson posted:

The best superhero movie was made in 1981, didn't need to make any more:



really thought said "cornman" on account of the corn sprouting from his back

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Space Kablooey posted:

Video games are the next industry on the chopping block

followed by the auto industry :toot:

Burn it all down, or rather, 'correct' the markets.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

KakerMix posted:

followed by the auto industry :toot:

Burn it all down, or rather, 'correct' the markets.

Chinese electric cars are going to be like 50% of the US auto market in ten years, it’s gonna be great.

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM

Space Kablooey posted:

Video games are the next industry on the chopping block

the videogame industry is bigger than ever. however, videogames themselves have turned into microtransaction delivery platforms

Kingo Ligma
Aug 24, 2019

Ask me about calling people racist because I failed geography.

Gripweed posted:

Chinese electric cars are going to be like 50% of the US auto market in ten years, it’s gonna be great.

gently caress yeah thanks to this Gripweed post I'm going to get insanely rich shorting Chinese electric car manufacturer stock.

*Googles "how does the Chinese stock market work"*

gently caress!!!!

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

The Marvels is a direct sequel to the Ms Marvel tv show, a subplot from the Wandavision streaming show, and a Captain Marvel sequel that does not exist. It’s a bit of a mess.

Castor Poe
Jul 19, 2010

Jar Jar is the key to all of this.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1759609433536307627?t=-h2_Iowd5FOpuu8YGQZ4IQ&s=19

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
I'm the company basing major financial decisions on Madame Web.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
pour one out for the madamnaverse

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

“On Wednesday night, you could actually watch advance purchase sales declining in real time as buyers were refunding their tickets,” marvels a major theatrical chain insider. “It really says something when you’d rather have Shazam! 2 numbers.”

Nefarious 2.0
Apr 22, 2008

Offense is overrated anyway.


“It failed. Sony tried to make a movie that was a different type of superhero movie.”


lol

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

different how? could someone point to the element of the film that's supposed to be different from anything that's come before?

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
I think sony might of had more success with their superhero films if they didn't all look like cheap garbage. Like from the first trailers you could tell they were all going to be absolute drek.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

kalel posted:

different how? could someone point to the element of the film that's supposed to be different from anything that's come before?

Well you see she’s a female spider that can see the future.

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003


Kraven will turn it all around

Castor Poe
Jul 19, 2010

Jar Jar is the key to all of this.

Nefarious 2.0 posted:

“It failed. Sony tried to make a movie that was a different type of superhero movie.”


lol

Name another superhero movie where evil is defeated by a Pepsi sign. I'll wait.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

Castor Poe posted:

Name another superhero movie where evil is defeated by a Pepsi sign. I'll wait.

I think superman kills a guy by throwing him into a giant product placement coke sign in the 80's movies, does that count?

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

dr_rat posted:

I think sony might of had more success with their superhero films if they didn't all look like cheap garbage. Like from the first trailers you could tell they were all going to be absolute drek.

As the article says, this strategy did succeed with the venom films though. So you can understand why they're confused they can't just repeat it indefinitely

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

mallratcal posted:

Kraven will turn it all around

Yeah if they make Kraven: The Man Hunter into a porno they might make their money back, sure.

sure okay
Apr 7, 2006





kalel posted:

different how? could someone point to the element of the film that's supposed to be different from anything that's come before?

Well they're definitely not talking about themes, cinematography, editing, acting, or really any kind of artistic vision. Execs don't understand any of that and consider it all interchangeable and roughly equal in value.

Their brains operate in demographics and timing. "Entice these people at this time." In that way, a female driven February superhero movie is I guess "different."

They just assume that if they throw about 80+ million at something, the quality bar will come naturally to meet consumer expectations. So much so they've convinced themselves that meddling like "the bad guy should die to a Pepsi sign" won't put a dent in said quality because again why are are they paying these so-called artists if they can't do their jobs???

sure okay fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Feb 20, 2024

Castor Poe
Jul 19, 2010

Jar Jar is the key to all of this.

Nigmaetcetera posted:

I think superman kills a guy by throwing him into a giant product placement coke sign in the 80's movies, does that count?

Oh poo poo yeah, I forgot about Superman II.

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire
Sony should make a movie about a super villain that forces people to watch Sony's lovely other films.

Meat Wagon
Jul 14, 2004

kalel posted:

different how? could someone point to the element of the film that's supposed to be different from anything that's come before?

It's grounded in reality you dummy

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

No Mods No Masters posted:

As the article says, this strategy did succeed with the venom films though. So you can understand why they're confused they can't just repeat it indefinitely

This seems to be pretty common thing with movie executives. I'm also pretty sure a lot of them actively hate movie audiences.

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003


Castor Poe posted:

Name another superhero movie where evil is defeated by a Pepsi sign. I'll wait.

poo poo. This was the spoiler I picked to be a fake.

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019

I think it's amazing that Mike loves TNG so much he's watched it all this time and can notice all those errors, stuff I would never pay attention to. But I suppose he comes from an editing background and has an eye for those things. That said, I would not like RLM if every video was nitpicking tiny little details like that. That's what I've liked about them ever since the Phantom Menace review; yes sometimes they do little nitpicky details like that, but most of that review is big picture, what is fundamentally wrong with this movie structurally kind of stuff.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




jeeves posted:

Sony should make a movie about a super villain that forces people to watch Sony's lovely other films.


He could be called Dr.Forrester

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire

hemale in pain posted:

He could be called Dr.Forrester

Yeah but more ~TWISTED~

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

We all deserve to get to kick and spit on the super heroes a bit in their twilight. But of course there's really no guarantee that the coming thing, the sonic the hedgehog cinematic universe, will be any better

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sure okay
Apr 7, 2006





I would bet my life that while Madame Webb was being cast they had an extensive meeting about how Dakota Johnson had "four quadrant appeal" and at the time could not even begin to fathom that she would ever in a million years sandbag her press tour or act like a dead fish on camera. Like, you could've brought it up clear as day and they would have looked at you like you were speaking in tongues. Just beyond comprehension.

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