|
toasterwarrior posted:This is the first time I'm doubting Steamchart numbers because playercounts going up while the servers remain as volatile as ever seems wildly incompatible. Surely everyone eventually fuckin gives up sitting in queue or black screen or whatever situation I kinda think the friend login trick might be causing a bit of breakthrough in numbers.
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:19
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 06:30 |
|
|
explosivo posted:There is no queue it's just random chance that you get in, more like a lottery, apparently. I got in after waiting for about a half hour just now but I think it's different for everyone. which is dumb. Closing in on an hour and a half for me and still haven't got in, for comparison.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:21
|
|
|
isk posted:(emphasis mine) I’m more vexed why the problem is more a backend coding issue, not a “more server capacity” issue Seems like any live service game should be prepared to scale as needed. It may take some time but it seems extreme they need to go back in and be like, rewriting the game
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:22
|
|
|
Joining a friend already in-game to get into the game worked for me. I couldn’t join them in a lobby proper but I could do my own missions and start quick plays (that people could join) but I couldn’t join quick plays. The servers are hanging on by a thread.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:24
|
|
|
hobbez posted:I’m more vexed why the problem is more a backend coding issue, not a “more server capacity” issue It's because the game is intended to be a single instance whole of community experience and they didn't think 700,000 people would be trying to cram stats into the mailbox at once in my uneducated opinion. E: and further to this if they can get it mostly resolved in a month they're kings forever
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:25
|
|
|
By and large they have three tools to work with for guessing: How their last game did, how games in the same field are doing, and how pre-orders look. By none of those metrics would it make sense to plan for, say, 500k players. It would actively be a bad business move to do so with the knowledge they had. It would have, with perfect retrospective vision, been the correct move....but with the knowledge they had they did mostly the right thing.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:25
|
|
|
JBP posted:It's because the game is intended to be a single instance whole of community experience and they didn't think 700,000 people would be trying to cram stats into the mailbox at once in my uneducated opinion. TBH I just assumed the live % liberated thing was faked
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:28
|
|
|
hobbez posted:I’m more vexed why the problem is more a backend coding issue, not a “more server capacity” issue Yep, I'm interested in the details. Like, did they lose a lead server engineer (who doesn't document their code) halfway through development, is it an off-by-1 error that's hard to find, would things have been OK with 10x the playerbase of the 1st game (which still would've been an enormous gain), etc. Estimates only get you so far
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:30
|
|
|
Very frustrated that the patch has caused me to CTD pretty consistently now so I went from not being able to get a game with people besides those i invite to getting games but not being able to get through a mission... i just wanna helldive!!
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:34
|
|
|
It sounded like they were doing stats in real time rather than batching them in any sensible fashion and they probably have no code to handle that correctly. Even if the stats aren't displayed to the player in game (as they were disabled to 0), they're probably doing some dumb poo poo like an API call every time a bullet is fired and that code under the hood doesn't magically go away
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:36
|
|
|
They could do a cool thing where every day they do a tally of all the bullets fired and Helldivers KIA where a second repository is crunching away at all that poo poo. Replace the live feed with FREEDOM DATE XX/XX/XXXX and the tally of idiots killed and bugs owned from yesterday. E: at this point they could afford to pay the intro dude to do a weekly news cast with the stats and state of the war
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:38
|
|
|
JBP posted:They could do a cool thing where every day they do a tally of all the bullets fired and Helldivers KIA where a second repository is crunching away at all that poo poo. Replace the live feed with FREEDOM DATE XX/XX/XXXX and the tally of idiots killed and bugs owned from yesterday. The intro dude is CG. Unless you mean the voice actor.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:43
|
|
|
Maybe don't announce a patch if you broke the game more than before lol
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:43
|
|
|
There's culture vultures out there making videos with thumbnails going IMPORTANT PATCH DROPPED! for this one, and yeah it sure is important because stability has somehow become worse with it
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:46
|
|
|
veni veni veni posted:The intro dude is CG. Unless you mean the voice actor. I assume they mocapped a real guy's likeness. Just used google and it confirms this is the case. E: Craig Lee Thomas
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:47
|
|
|
This game is legit redefining how to be a victim of your own success. They aren’t even doing anything wrong either, thus the victim part
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:48
|
|
|
JBP posted:I assume they mocapped a real guy's likeness. Just used google and it confirms this is the case. I figured, I just couldn’t tell if you thought it was a live actor cause it really does hit a bit of uncanny valley territory with how real he looks.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:49
|
|
|
BastardySkull posted:SES Whisper of Twilight, love me a Halo rear end name. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:50
|
|
|
dog nougat posted:Post your ship names y'all! SES Diamond of Gold, the most fabulous ship.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:52
|
|
|
Is it annoying, disappointing, or frustrating to not be able to play a great game because of technical issues? Yeah. But the people earnestly going "can't believe I don't get to play the game I spent FORTY DOLLARS on" or whatever are insane. It's not a concert or a plane ticket. The game will still be here next week, and the week after, and so on. It's not going away. You aren't missing out on your one chance to play. Relax
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 03:58
|
|
|
SES Princess of Twilight. (Formerly the Comptroller of Wrath.)
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:00
|
|
|
hobbez posted:I’m more vexed why the problem is more a backend coding issue, not a “more server capacity” issue that's just not how any of this poo poo works if you have that level of magic wand you'd be making 7+ figures
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:03
|
|
|
isk posted:Yep, I'm interested in the details. Like, did they lose a lead server engineer (who doesn't document their code) halfway through development, is it an off-by-1 error that's hard to find, would things have been OK with 10x the playerbase of the 1st game (which still would've been an enormous gain), etc. Estimates only get you so far Supposedly they prepared for a Hail Mary of 250k launch players.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:04
|
|
|
Ra Ra Rasputin posted:They should probably separate the bonus perks from the cosmetics of armor, they can keep light/medium/heavy separation, but let you freely swap between the rest once unlocked. much like dark souls, the correct answer is to ignore the stats and just go with whatever looks baller because that's what's really important
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:06
|
|
|
johnny park posted:Is it annoying, disappointing, or frustrating to not be able to play a great game because of technical issues? Yeah. But the people earnestly going "can't believe I don't get to play the game I spent FORTY DOLLARS on" or whatever are insane. It's not a concert or a plane ticket. The game will still be here next week, and the week after, and so on. It's not going away. You aren't missing out on your one chance to play. Relax I think there is some FOMO going on that once things level out the game won't be as popular as other games come out or in the public conscious anymore and not worth their time which might be stoking the flames a bit.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:09
|
|
|
i think it would be cool if i could play this game
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:11
|
|
|
Harlock posted:I think there is some FOMO going on that once things level out the game won't be as popular as other games come out or in the public conscious anymore and not worth their time which might be stoking the flames a bit. Yeah I didn't buy the game yet but also hope the server issues are fixed before most of the people I know have moved on to the next fun thing.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:13
|
|
|
SES Panther of Law.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:20
|
|
|
Harlock posted:I think there is some FOMO going on that once things level out the game won't be as popular as other games come out or in the public conscious anymore and not worth their time which might be stoking the flames a bit. To be fair, a lot of games like this are at their most fun when they are new and the min maxers and turbo nerds haven't got the entire game figured out yet. Like it sucks in a lot of games when you try to pick it up down the line and people do poo poo like throw a fit because you didn't know all the poopoo man ambushes, it was clearly your job to deal with them since you brought the peepee rifle. That's if they don't immediately quit when they see a not maxed level player join the game.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:27
|
|
|
Aphrodite posted:Supposedly they prepared for a Hail Mary of 250k launch players. Helldivers 1 never exceeded 7k players simultaneously. Their estimates were 7k for 'baseline 'we did good' success', 50k for 'crazy good performance of game exceeds our expectations', and 250k for 'won the Powerball game goes viral but that will never happen haha...unless...'. They did actually code a system that could handle 250k. But then had it go super-mega-hit with 4 times the craziest estimate hammering the servers 2 weeks after launch. The patch they put in today is working out, I had all black screens yesterday, but got in twice this evening for my first few games. Started solo, but then had some fellow patriots drop in, and it was a really fun experience.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:27
|
|
|
SES Song of Super Earth. Super Earth, gently caress yeah!
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:29
|
|
|
sushibandit posted:You don't have to physically get in the shuttle to take samples with you, you just can't die while carrying them. I just tested this. And if this isn't a case of confusion over who had what samples on extract, they've since changed it. This does not work.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:32
|
|
|
On a mission today we found a port-a-potty just, like, chilling out in the middle of a field. Also, I had no idea that this was a thing!  
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:36
|
|
|
I Greyhound posted:Helldivers 1 never exceeded 7k players simultaneously. Their estimates were 7k for 'baseline 'we did good' success', 50k for 'crazy good performance of game exceeds our expectations', and 250k for 'won the Powerball game goes viral but that will never happen haha...unless...'. They did actually code a system that could handle 250k. But then had it go super-mega-hit with 4 times the craziest estimate hammering the servers 2 weeks after launch. this is insane, HD1 was a top down twin stick shooter, not a major release squad shooter, they never should have expected it to only barely exceed HD1
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:50
|
|
|
Game devs have the shittiest clients
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:52
|
|
|
WoodrowSkillson posted:this is insane, HD1 was a top down twin stick shooter, not a major release squad shooter, they never should have expected it to only barely exceed HD1 Sorry but how is catering for 30x the population considered to be barely exceeding the previous game lol
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:54
|
|
|
did the PC side even have all that much marketing, because i was not seeing any hype for it at all before launch, anywhere, this thread aside
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:55
|
|
|
WoodrowSkillson posted:this is insane, HD1 was a top down twin stick shooter, not a major release squad shooter, they never should have expected it to only barely exceed HD1 Hope this helps your confusion. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:56
|
|
|
WoodrowSkillson posted:this is insane, HD1 was a top down twin stick shooter, not a major release squad shooter, they never should have expected it to only barely exceed HD1 Most major releases are either free-to-play or $59.99+. AAs frequently get grinded in between the fully accessible and the overmarketed
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:56
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 06:30 |
|
|
Internet Explorer posted:Hope this helps your confusion. Man Palworld fell off exactly as hard as I expected to.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2024 04:59
|
|
