Smythe posted:

NHD Podcast

Al! posted:

whats this thread's take on jon gabrus? love the guy myself

tokin opposition posted:

If u want help on computer toucherfication lmk. It worked for me and now I'm normal

Al! posted:

i appreciate the offer but id like to not work ever for anyone, but still receive a paycheck

i say swears online posted:

for anyone that doesn't wanna do therapy but know they're hosed up in the head I strongly recommend the book The Body Keeps The Score. it's listed on the front page of the mental health thread and it changed my life because before that I had no idea what PTSD actually was and it explained so much of my behavior in adulthood

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At the retreat, I asked van der Kolk if he finds it notable that his firing was justified using therapyspeak — the “trauma creep” that The Body Keeps the Score is sometimes accused of having facilitated. “I’m a clinician,” he said. “I’m not really interested in these kinds of sociological or political questions.” When I pressed, he got annoyed. “This stuff about cancel culture, or people saying they’re traumatized for any little thing — that’s not what my book is about. If people happen to use it for that, that’s their problem, but leave me out of it.” As in the debacle of the memory wars, he is adamant that he not be held responsible for whether, or how, his work is being misused.

Throughout the weeklong retreat, it sometimes seemed as if no event was too geopolitically vast or historically complex to be apprehended through trauma. On the first night, van der Kolk’s staff gathered with him in his suite. There was the woman who ran an international branch of the TRF focused on developing trauma workshops in the Global South, and a psychotherapist who told me she had invented the concept of “sexual grief.” Night one had gone great, they agreed, as the conversation whirled out to the Trauma Foundation’s vital work worldwide and the work remaining to be done: the war in Ukraine, global warming, the refugee crisis, famine, guerrilla violence, the great wheel of history screaming out for increased trauma intervention. It was hard to think of a problem to which trauma therapy wouldn’t be the answer.

Over the course of six days, in small groups, in evening exercises, over lunch, many people described their pain. One night, we stood in a circle as everyone took turns stepping into the center; then the group would say their name “with delight at their existence.” It was supposed to replicate the feeling of being a child basking in their parents’ love. People cried. I cried. The next day, Licia Sky led us outside to walk across a field toward a partner while keeping eye contact. One man thanked his activity partner, whom he’d hugged at the end, for a healing experience. When his partner took the mic, she said she had felt coerced into the hug, then burst into tears. It was like something else had happened to her, she said. Later, I chatted with a Canadian minister who was there to improve his counseling skills. “The science is interesting,” he said, lowering his voice. “But I’m starting to wonder if I’m … traumatized enough to be here.”

tokin opposition posted:

Landlord! Landlord!

Karach posted:

this book + TITs got the ball rolling for me on figuring out how cptsd had made me into a mess of a human being. I wasn't going to cogitate my way out of it with cbt.

Homeless Friend posted:

reading this as a tokin post

Atrocious Joe posted:

quote:

Later, I chatted with a Canadian minister who was there to improve his counseling skills. “The science is interesting,” he said, lowering his voice. “But I’m starting to wonder if I’m … traumatized enough to be here.”

Al! posted:

got tits and it helped me with my cock ball torture technique

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trauma-bessel-van-der-kolk-the-body-keeps-the-score-profile.html
the New York Magazine article on the author is entertaining

Al! posted:

i was more thinking about the embezzlement route

FirstnameLastname posted:

rent expensive stuff to shoot some commercials about being a big successful guru and start hustling hucking bullshit to young money finance & tech retards

tokin opposition posted:

this has been suggested to me repeatedly but it doesn't have any spaceships or lasers in it afaict

my bony fealty posted:

being a scammer seems like just as much work as a normal job for less payout, unless you get lucky and rip off some old person's life savings I guess. it's just not for me - too honest.

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trauma-bessel-van-der-kolk-the-body-keeps-the-score-profile.html
the New York Magazine article on the author is entertaining

majour333 posted:

I really really really appreciate this post

fr0id posted:

fr0id posted:

Saint Ignatius of Loyola posted:

It contains in it, after the Preparatory Prayer and two Preludes, five Points and one Colloquy: Prayer. Let the Preparatory Prayer be the usual one.

First Prelude. The first Prelude is the composition, which is here to see with the sight of the imagination the length, breadth and depth of Hell.

Second Prelude. The second, to ask for what I want: it will be here to ask for interior sense of
the pain which the damned suffer, in order that, if, through my faults, I should forget the love of the Eternal Lord, at least the fear of the pains may help me not to come into sin.

First Point. The first Point will be to see with the sight of the imagination the great fires, and the souls as in bodies of fire.

Second Point. The second, to hear with the ears wailings, howlings, cries, blasphemies against Christ our Lord and against all His Saints.

Third Point. The third, to smell with the smell smoke, sulphur, dregs and putrid things.

Fourth Point. The fourth, to taste with the taste bitter things, like tears, sadness and the worm of conscience.

Fifth Point. The fifth, to touch with the touch; that is to say, how the fires touch and burn the souls.

Colloquy. Making a Colloquy to Christ our Lord, I will bring to memory the souls that are in Hell, some because they did not believe the Coming, others because, believing, they did not act according to His Commandments; making three divisions:

First, Second, and Third Divisions. The first, before the Coming; the second, during His life; the third, after His life in this world; and with this I will give Him thanks that He has not let me fall into any of these divisions, ending my life

Likewise, I will consider how up to now He has always had so great pity and mercy on me.

I will end with an Our Father.

i say swears online posted:

good post

majour333 posted:

I really really really appreciate this post

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

The chaplain referred me to mental health because I was going to confession weekly, in his view hadn’t done anything particularly bad, but felt awful, and also I kept getting stuck on the fifth spiritual exercise of Saint Ignatius, and doing it over and over again every morning trying to get out of what I thought was desolation. (As opposed to a mental health condition)

Apparently if you have trauma induced OCD, you can get yourself into a bit of trouble if you understand feeling bad = have done something to feel bad about.

Idk, I was doing everything right…

✅ interior sense of the pain which the damned suffer

✅ see with the sight of the imagination bodies on fire

✅ hear with the ears wailings, howlings, cries,

✅ smell with the smell smoke, sulphur,

✅ taste with the taste bitter things, like tears, sadness and the worm of conscience.

Considering Saint Ignatius had been grievously wounded in a battle, which we would today call “a traumatic experience”, probably the pattern of thought isn’t unrelated.

Homeless Friend posted:

if you want to to taste bitter things i suggest lil lemon sours candies. they rock

Dreylad posted:

let the bodies keep the score
let the bodies keep the score
let the bodies keep the score
let the bodies keep the
scoooooooooooore

fr0id posted:

I am extremely mad about how safe space has been taken from healthcare folks. such a great phrase just stolen by the worst loving people. now I have to use phrases like “comfortable zone” so I don’t anger anyone. god drat it.

i say swears online posted:

what do you think of that new yorker article and van der kolk? are trauma-trenders obnoxious or is it just another cry for help from the suffering?