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Wiltsghost posted:Also that they aren't fully giving up on physical. quote:I asked Spencer if Xbox would commit to supporting games on discs. It wasn’t a random query.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 01:05 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 00:03 |
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It gonna go away on every platform, get used to it
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 01:09 |
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Probably do an all digital console but sell a separate drive then. Pretty sure Sony is going this route as well.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 01:10 |
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Seltzer posted:It gonna go away on every platform, get used to it counterpoint: Nintendo
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 01:39 |
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TheScott2K posted:counterpoint: Nintendo This is from 4 years ago. https://www.thegamer.com/nintendo-digital-sales-more-than-physical/
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 01:55 |
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That was a lockdown trend, the balance of Switch game sales tilted back toward physical afterward, but digital is up to 48% in 2023 according to some poo poo I googled. And publishers cheaping out on cartridge size means a lot of Switch carts really are just physical license keys for a digital download, there may not even be an unpatched game there. The physical media situation for Switch 2 is gonna be interesting. 4K graphics are only gonna make the cart problem worse, and I don't see Nintendo ever putting an optical drive on a handheld. Something has to give.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 02:11 |
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If carts just become physical license keys and you have to also download the game that will probably work for Nintendo.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 02:26 |
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TheScott2K posted:counterpoint: Nintendo nintendo is like 2 gens behind on everything so it's not really a counter point. Theyre about to release a new console in 2025 specced at ps4 levels.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 02:32 |
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Nintendo should stay at the PS3.5 level where they are currently lest they stop making games like sony did during the PS4 generation
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 02:44 |
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Just like the PS3, you can link multiple switch 2s together to create a super computer
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 02:48 |
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External Organs posted:Just like the PS3, you can link multiple switch 2s together to create a super computer Do not tell North Korea about this one neat trick!
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 02:56 |
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Wiltsghost posted:Says all Actiblizz games will be day one on game pass, including Cod. Also that they aren't fully giving up on physical. Thank goodness. If physical media dies, that's less control and options consumers have and more control and power companies have. The same companies that couldn't give less of a poo poo about preservation and are much more interested in selling you less for more until doomsday.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 02:57 |
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Charles Martel posted:Thank goodness. If physical media dies, that's less control and options consumers have and more control and power companies have. The same companies that couldn't give less of a poo poo about preservation and are much more interested in selling you less for more until doomsday. That's a quote from the guy who came up with the Series S. Preservation -- don't most Series physical games have a last-gen copy on the disc due to smart delivery? Paging univbee. Phil's just saying he'll let let the trend play out and physical die a natural death rather than try to push it along.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 03:10 |
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Charles Martel posted:Thank goodness. If physical media dies, that's less control and options consumers have and more control and power companies have. The same companies that couldn't give less of a poo poo about preservation and are much more interested in selling you less for more until doomsday. Lmao
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 03:19 |
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Seltzer posted:nintendo is like 2 gens behind on everything so it's not really a counter point. Theyre about to release a new console in 2025 specced at ps4 levels. everything but sales lol
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 03:37 |
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acksplode posted:That's a quote from the guy who came up with the Series S. Preservation -- don't most Series physical games have a last-gen copy on the disc due to smart delivery? Paging univbee. Phil's just saying he'll let let the trend play out and physical die a natural death rather than try to push it along. Well yeah. I'm not saying Phil Spencer is a shining white knight of physical media preservation and Microsoft is an exception to capitalism or something, but it's nice to know that people who still prefer discs are still at least being acknowledged. The whole aforementioned "we're really just following what the customers are doing" stance makes sense from a business standpoint, but if customers just shrug with the whole "discs are dying anyway so what's the point in buying them", they are going to die off even faster.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 05:14 |
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Anyway, does anybody else remember Gigantic? It's a Hero-based third-person action MOBA that came out back in 2017 (from being in beta starting in 2015) as a F2P game, but developer Motiga went belly-up by the end of 2017 and the game shut down in 2018. Then out of nowhere one weekend in October of last year, there was a throwback event / playtest on PC which had a decent turnout. That momentum is what is leading it to be resurrected and re-released as Gigantic: Rampage Edition on April 9th. Turns out the publisher for the game merged with Gearbox and are working with developer Abstraction who did some stuff for Baldur's Gate 3. From what I have gathered, it will have all of the original content, plus two new characters, two new maps, and a new Rush mode to start. Cross-play between Xbox, PlayStation, and PC. No F2P monetization and instead will just sell for a flat $19.99. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Bdc38DNUM I've always loved the art style, the characters, and the combat of this game and thought it died too soon after it's official release. Out of all the F2P games I've played that have shut down, Gigantic was my favorite. I'm psyched.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 05:44 |
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Charles Martel posted:Thank goodness. If physical media dies, that's less control and options consumers have and more control and power companies have. The same companies that couldn't give less of a poo poo about preservation and are much more interested in selling you less for more until doomsday. Emulation is the way to preserve video games. Ultimately it will be the only way. Your precious discs will crumble to dust eventually, as will you.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 08:47 |
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John F Bennett posted:Emulation is the way to preserve video games. Ultimately it will be the only way. Your precious discs will crumble to dust eventually, as will you. I've got bad news for you about the storage media for those emulators and ROMs.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 08:49 |
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I will last forever, as will my Xbox (both physical)
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 09:01 |
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Game companies forcing the player to fill up their homes with meaningless plastic tchotchkes that don't do anything except go to the internet and download the actual game could be considered another form of control.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 09:10 |
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lines posted:I've got bad news for you about the storage media for those emulators and ROMs. Where we're going we don't need storage media to play games.
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Charles Martel posted:The same companies that couldn't give less of a poo poo about preservation and are much more interested in selling you less for more until doomsday. Braindead take considering everything Xbox has done
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 10:20 |
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Phil would kiss me on the forehead at bedtime but that booty guy gets jealous.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 10:34 |
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Halo 5 has a so-so story but I’m enjoying the maps and action set pieces. I spent the last two weeks getting used to the halo style of controls and then in halo 5 they rearrange the buttons to be like most other fps games. Pressing the scanner button and throwing a grenade instead
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 10:46 |
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Don't a lot of modern Xbox discs still require some kind of online connection to get themselves set up for first run? And don't a lot of Switch games require a download on first run because properly-sized cartridges are crazy expensive to manufacture? I understand and get the appeal, but having a physical chunk of plastic on your bookshelf is no longer a guarantee that you'll be able to Game Hard after a solar flare or gigantic EMP knocks out all telecommunications activity across the entire globe forever.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 10:50 |
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Piracy solves this problem. Piracy is the best.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 10:57 |
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Thats why I haven’t bothered getting discs of games that do that
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 10:59 |
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The Kins posted:And don't a lot of Switch games require a download on first run because properly-sized cartridges are crazy expensive to manufacture? I'd say they're the exception rather than the rule
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 11:08 |
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didn't it take until 2020 for 64GB cards to be released and almost no game uses it so large games you always end up downloading half of it.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 11:22 |
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switch doesnt have lazy devs so you mostly get optimised games
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 11:24 |
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The Kins posted:Don't a lot of modern Xbox discs still require some kind of online connection to get themselves set up for first run? And don't a lot of Switch games require a download on first run because properly-sized cartridges are crazy expensive to manufacture? https://www.doesitplay.org/ The rule (for now) is that most PS4 and Switch games can be beaten offline without even need patching. This has a higher % if you get indie games releases since they tend to release on disc later so the game in some cases is complete and patched if it needed to.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 11:25 |
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Speaking of, there's a Nintendo Direct in about 3.5 hours from now. Maybe we'll see Hifi Rush there.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 11:25 |
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John F Bennett posted:a Nintendo Direct We call these "xbox funerals" now.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 13:06 |
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https://x.com/Ian_Fisch/status/1759960809818477054?s=20 This looks cool! Will be coming to Xbox later too. Make sure to watch the video until at least 00:21s
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 14:18 |
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grounded and pentiment just got announced for switch
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 15:04 |
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Quantum of Phallus posted:grounded and pentiment just got announced for switch You skipped ahead in the video......
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 15:08 |
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Physical games just need to become worth owning. The industry has collectively whittled down physical gaming to its most pointless form over the years. At this point you're buying a disc, which may or may not actually have any of the game on it, in some flimsy plastic case and that's it. There will always be a segment of customers who value a physical product, even it becomes a niche minority. The industry just has to do better at producing something people give a poo poo about owning. Look at the resurgence of vinyl. Limited Run Games seem to do OK for themselves (although I appreciate their print runs are likely pretty small?) Personally I'd bring back the PC big box as the physical standard for all platforms. A nice big chunky box with proper artwork front and center, with the return of well produced manuals/art books. No need for all those garbage plastic statues to come back. Just give me a nice big box and a good manual to look through with some nice art etc in there.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 15:11 |
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Quantum of Phallus posted:grounded and pentiment just got announced for switch More importantly, so did Blast Corps for Nintendo Switch Online. I guess it wasn't just four games.
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# ? May 26, 2024 00:03 |
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the beginning of the end……
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