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DominoKitten
Aug 7, 2012

Britain has in particular had an increase in sewage spilling and leaving the EU has not helped:

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...d-wales-in-maps

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Baddog
May 12, 2001

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/e...es/202402190053

Medical care is just a consumer choice now, and like all other consumer choices there are no right or wrong choices, just different ones. You can see a real physician or you can see a guy who thinks that sickness is caused by disrupted energy flows. You do you!


I hate that in part my insurance bills are high because they will pay for apparently unlimited visits to loving *chiropractors*

But I have to argue and jump through hoops to get actual loving medicine which really helps me.

And now a public university is gonna support this poo poo? Goddamnit.

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

Baddog posted:

I hate that in part my insurance bills are high because they will pay for apparently unlimited visits to loving *chiropractors*

But I have to argue and jump through hoops to get actual loving medicine which really helps me.

And now a public university is gonna support this poo poo? Goddamnit.

I used to work with people who had preloaded cards to get their weekly trips to the chiropractor and also use them for medical care.

Steely Dad
Jul 29, 2006



I'd like to inform you all that in accordance with natural law, I am evolving to be milder

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Steely Dad posted:

I'd like to inform you all that in accordance with natural law, I am evolving to be milder

take a walk on the mild side

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022
whats the best vaccine now

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

FirstnameLastname posted:

whats the best vaccine now

Novavax

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
Bit of news from :denmark: (auto-translated)

https://www-dr-dk.translate.goog/ny...&_x_tr_pto=wapp posted:

Experiments with virus meters should result in fewer sick children

In an attempt to reduce the infection pressure in daycare centers, the Technological Institute in Aarhus is now conducting an experiment to measure viruses in the air at two daycare centers in Aarhus.

Initially, the trial will show whether it is possible to measure the virus before it triggers disease, explains consultant Naja Villadsen.

- When does it start to become a problem, where a lot of snotty noses show? We really don't know that right now, she says.

If it is possible to find a reliable method to measure the level of the virus, it opens up new possibilities for technical solutions such as turning up the ventilation, says Naja Villadsen.
(..)

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

Zesty.


Pingui posted:

Never mind the rest of the (Zeynep Tufekci)piece, but this part deserves a highlight.

lol

"The president needs to be talking about this"

"Oh, he has, I looked up the date and time before you came so I could assure you that he has talked about this"

Great work everybody

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007





:lol:

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

Pingui posted:

Bit of news from :denmark: (auto-translated)

where can I find a virus meter?

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003



quote:

Why is it so hard to determine how a patient died?

Clancy said people who are diagnosed with C. auris infections often have serious underlying medical conditions that predispose them to infections. “So it’s often very hard in individual cases to know whether people are dying ‘from’ the candida infection, or ‘with’ the candida infection,” he said.

lol they successfully turned "died with" into public health policy, we'll be hearing that forever

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

they were morbidly obese and diabetic so it's impossible to tell if they died from the heart attack or with it

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
The only cause of death is "biological processes insufficient to sustain life" everything else is just something you died with. bing bong

Steely Dad
Jul 29, 2006



FirstnameLastname posted:

whats the best vaccine now

JN.1

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

lol they successfully turned "died with" into public health policy, we'll be hearing that forever

They're already trying to apply it to prostate cancer

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
Everyone is fated to die, so how can you say a death has a cause?

Bruce Hussein Daddy
Dec 26, 2005

I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

Things are normal!

Biggest childrens hospital in my state is running at full capacity in a traditionally quiet summer period.

Things are normal!

70% of children are in for respiratory illnesses with Covid, Influenza A/B/C, and pneumonia specifically listed.

Things are normal!

The nurse ward manager talking about the mystery virus that's the bulk of new patients have that's not showing up in testing! 7+ days of lethargy, low to no input of liquids food and needing IV bags as they work out what's next.

Things are normal!

The majority of staff are not wearing masks.

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7337339430979636511

Always a bit concerning to see so many people in the comments saying they've been feeling awfully sick too

NeonPunk has issued a correction as of 01:17 on Feb 21, 2024

Why Am I So Tired
Sep 28, 2021

Why Am I So Tired posted:

This could turn out to be a great resource, it's being shared and praised by a lot of thread favorites.

https://www.covidsafetyforschools.org/

I'm three videos into this free course now, and yeah, it's incredible.

I think it belongs in the OP, and, while I know a lot of people have given up on trying to reach others, that it's something we should be sending out to everyone in our lives / encouraging them to watch.

It's absolutely criminal that the CDC never made / broadcast anything like this themselves.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

NeonPunk posted:

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7337339430979636511

Always a bit concerning to see so many people in the comments saying they've been feeling awfully sick too

it's covid.

and it's mild.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Hi what are the best/recent studies showing waning vaccine effectiveness, even against hospitalization and death?

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

NeonPunk posted:

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7337339430979636511

Always a bit concerning to see so many people in the comments saying they've been feeling awfully sick too

this is a little similar to what went through our house recently. I’m still fatigued but when my wife was in the ER there was no diagnosis. she got fluids and pain meds. like just no loving direction at all…

Zantie
Mar 30, 2003

Death. The capricious dance of Now You Stop Moving Forever.
https://twitter.com/KHQLocalNews/status/1760119812108509533

:dance:

Zantie
Mar 30, 2003

Death. The capricious dance of Now You Stop Moving Forever.

quote:

The individual who carried the case from abroad to eastern Washington was at the following locations before the ailment was identified at the Spokane International Airport, Concourse B in addition to the following places in Deer Park:

Deer Park Library

Rozy’z Hot Shotz

Taco Bell

Creekside Kenpo Karate

Horizon Credit Union

For individuals who were at one of those locations, SRHD advised that if an individual was not immune to measles, the latest they would see symptoms would be March 8.

quote:

Deer Park Library

Rozy’z Hot Shotz

Taco Bell

Creekside Kenpo Karate

Rozy'z Hot Shotz

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Zantie posted:

Rozy'z Hot Shotz

Badass

Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer
warming up for karate with taco bell

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Fansy posted:

warming up for karate with taco bell

I was gonna say alcohol would be a weird choice pre martial arts, by turns out Rozy runs a highly rated espresso bar.

FART BOSS
Aug 27, 2008

~hands upon harrows
heels in the weeds
starving and harvesting
down centuries~



What's the vaccine meta these days? I got the moderna XBB 1.5 last year right before new years and my school is going to offer free shots to all staff next month. Should I go for the pfizer if they have it?

Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋
https://twitter.com/CovidintheChart/status/1760178263668982037
https://twitter.com/CovidintheChart/status/1760178267204866435

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003


the fastest ways to get hosed in this society are expecting healthcare workers to protect your health or expecting cops to protect you from being victimized

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer

FART BOSS posted:

What's the vaccine meta these days? I got the moderna XBB 1.5 last year right before new years and my school is going to offer free shots to all staff next month. Should I go for the pfizer if they have it?

Novavax.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

I hate this poo poo. loving hell world.

trashy owl
Aug 23, 2017

silicone thrills posted:

I hate this poo poo. loving hell world.

Yeah this poo poo is terrifying.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/second-opinions/108817 posted:

When It Comes to Isolation, COVID Shouldn't Be Singled Out From the Pack
— It's time for CDC to update its guidance
(..)
When our ancestors chose to live among each other in cities and villages, it brought many advantages, but there was also the tradeoff of flourishing communicable diseases, as population density and attendant social interactions increased. Among these communicable diseases were respiratory virus infections, which I believe people implicitly consent to when they live among and interact with each other.
(..)
:shuckyes:

Archived link: https://archive.vn/iKYz8

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
Ever get the sense that the purpose of fact checkers is primarily to say "look at how dumb these assholes are!", so they fact check some dumb bullshit that no one has really heard of, much less believe?

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/cnn-headline-covid-19-injections-penis-is-fake-2024-02-20/ posted:

Fact Check: CNN headline on COVID-19 injections in penis is fake

Like did 65.3k views really warrant a "fact check"? (spoilered for :nws: reasons, as there is a drawing of a dick being injected with a syringe)
https://twitter.com/Ikennect/status/1759149568128634969

toggle
Nov 7, 2005


what the gently caress?? this is “gremlin on the plane wing” type poo poo. how can this ever be fixed ?

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

we're just letting society collapse... maybe we'll do better on a rebuild

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Hellequin
Feb 26, 2008

You Scream! You open your TORN, ROTTED, DECOMPOSED MOUTH AND SCREAM!
The big NIH study on ME/CFS that launched back in 2017 was published today. Any hope of it having relevance to Long Covid is moot though, because it's s giant loving piece of poo poo that was performed in bad faith.

It concludes that Post-Exertional Malaise is a result of "an alteration in exertion preference" and deconditioning. Poorly interpreted data that is poorly reported, a tiny sample size of cherry-picked subjects, improperly followed protocols, everything that would mark a study as of poor quality is here and it's all in service of perpetuating negative stereotypes. The authors even ignore and discount their own data which serves to contradict their (predetermined) conclusions. This is bad faith science. Call me a cynic and a pessimist, but this is so egregiously poor that it's enough for me to believe this is a deliberate attempt to bury and dismiss ME once again.

Here it is anyway: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-45107-3

And here's a Twitter thread detailing everything wrong with it from someone with relevant credentials and research experience because I'm too out of it to type anything further up.

https://twitter.com/sunsopeningband/status/1760247967582437670?t=DRvJXLDwUiKcCUH88nqZvQ&s=19

This was a waste of resources, a waste of time, and a betrayal of patient faith and trust. The authors should be ashamed.

But they won't because the lead author is Brian Wallit who had already arrived at the conclusions before the data was even gathered as per some of his previously stated opinions:




This was doomed from the start and we already kind of knew that.

https://www.meadvocacy.org/nih_sidesteps_critical_problems_with_the_me_cfs_study

Anyway this probably bodes poorly for Long Covid sufferers as well.

Hellequin has issued a correction as of 15:22 on Feb 21, 2024

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