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PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
At work we sell countertops simply called "quartz stone" in terms of material from our second-most-shady supplier, and now I'm wondering if they're natural quartz or engineered. I feel like they're too regularly coloured to be natural. Any way to non-destructively test this?

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Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015


It's engineered quartz and it's the one that gives workers silicosis, yes.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

PurpleXVI posted:

At work we sell countertops simply called "quartz stone" in terms of material from our second-most-shady supplier, and now I'm wondering if they're natural quartz or engineered. I feel like they're too regularly coloured to be natural. Any way to non-destructively test this?

Yes: it's the cheaper one.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
Yup I got a new benchtop installed a few years ago that falls under engineered stone, it's pretty to look at, non-porous and hides temporary stains due to patterning, is hard/tough & heat tolerant, cheap to purchase and easy to install... and will probably be outlawed here soon, no free lunches and all that.

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice

Serephina posted:

Yup I got a new benchtop installed a few years ago that falls under engineered stone, it's pretty to look at, non-porous and hides temporary stains due to patterning, is hard/tough & heat tolerant, cheap to purchase and easy to install... and will probably be outlawed here soon, no free lunches and all that.

New ones would be, but yours would be fine. Until you take a bandsaw to it, then the fines would be in your lungs and that's what the ban is about.

DeeplyConcerned
Apr 29, 2008

I can fit 3 whole bud light cans now, ask me how!

Haystack posted:

Engineered quartz is very nice.

Although, I've always kind of wanted a kitchen that uses laboratory countertop. That poo poo is invincible.

Now y'all are just making up materials. This is a serious thread and I learn a lot here. But I won't tolerate any more lollygagging.

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde

gently caress! Now I want cake, I hope you are happy

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


PurpleXVI posted:

At work we sell countertops simply called "quartz stone" in terms of material from our second-most-shady supplier, and now I'm wondering if they're natural quartz or engineered. I feel like they're too regularly coloured to be natural. Any way to non-destructively test this?

We are banning that Engineered poo poo in Australia. I suggest you get all yours sent back to supplier for refund before you get stuck with them if/when your country catches on.

BrassRoots
Jan 9, 2012

You can play a shoestring if you're sincere - John Coltrane
Anything with quartz can give you silicosis. Even if you drive on roads regularly that are very dusty and have a high quartz content.

Pouring sacks of sand and gravel can give you silicosis.

This is primarily an industry issue, thinking that using PPE is for babbys. If installers would wear dust masks, as indicated in the MSDS, this issue goes away.

At some point the usefulness of the material is deemed high enough that PPE is an effective control. I actually really like my engineered counter top. Its nice.

Plus, i thought you could still get pre-cut in a factory where the exposure is eliminated by cutting with machines under water etc.

Splorange
Feb 23, 2011

Kith posted:

spunge

https://i.imgur.com/5bhS8mG.mp4

i usually try to be polite since we are all friends here but when i'm out of patience i play hardball

This is pornographic, I love it, but I feel like I should report it.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

BrassRoots posted:

Anything with quartz can give you silicosis. Even if you drive on roads regularly that are very dusty and have a high quartz content.

Pouring sacks of sand and gravel can give you silicosis.

This is primarily an industry issue, thinking that using PPE is for babbys. If installers would wear dust masks, as indicated in the MSDS, this issue goes away.

At some point the usefulness of the material is deemed high enough that PPE is an effective control. I actually really like my engineered counter top. Its nice.

Plus, i thought you could still get pre-cut in a factory where the exposure is eliminated by cutting with machines under water etc.

I don't care if my kitchen counter has a body count, it's nice

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

BrassRoots posted:

This is primarily an industry issue, thinking that using PPE is for babbys. If installers would wear dust masks, as indicated in the MSDS, this issue goes away.

Good thing that the worst people spent years and tens of millions of dollars training everyone that N95 respirators do not work. :thumbsup:

nemotrm
Dec 5, 2003

BrassRoots posted:

Plus, i thought you could still get pre-cut in a factory where the exposure is eliminated by cutting with machines under water etc.

The issue isn't the manufacturing plant (where you can have good PPE) but the unprotected people that cut a sink hole or faucet hole after the slab is manufactured.

ComradePyro
Oct 6, 2009
asbestos is totally safe with PPE. for some reason we decided that putting the burden of responsibility on everyone who interacts with it to do so safely was a bad idea.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Humphreys posted:

We are banning that Engineered poo poo in Australia. I suggest you get all yours sent back to supplier for refund before you get stuck with them if/when your country catches on.

Oh, lmao, we don't stock it, we just order them to measure when customers want them. They're the supplier's problem if Denmark ever bans them.

Arrhythmia posted:

Yes: it's the cheaper one.

I'm 99% sure of it already, because I can't imagine this supplier would pick the high road on anything(we used to have respectable, local suppliers that were a joy to work with every time and didn't make our lives difficult, but they weren't earning management enough money), but I like to be 100% sure on things for my own curiosity's sake.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

ComradePyro posted:

asbestos is totally safe with PPE. for some reason we decided that putting the burden of responsibility on everyone who interacts with it to do so safely was a bad idea.

Ehhhh at least quartz doesn’t shed particles unless someone makes a purposeful effort to cut it.

A lot of stuff made with asbestos will release fibers if anyone so much as looks at it.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



I don't get the engineered stone ban. Dry cutting granite will give you silicosis as easily as the quartz.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
*gestures to prop 65*

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009



This is unnaturally fluffy. :stare:

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Where!?

Runa
Feb 13, 2011


Japan.

Though that bakery, Taiwan Castella Kyu Fun, judging by its name probably specializes in the Taiwanese version of the Japanese castella cake. It's much fluffier and bouncier than the classic Japanese castella, more of a chiffon while the classic castella is closer to a pound cake.

IT BURNS
Nov 19, 2012


That's a big boi whisk if I've ever seen one...

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

Space Kablooey posted:

This is unnaturally fluffy. :stare:

Someone can correct me but I'm guessing it's the eggs giving it a soufflé-like jiggle and airiness. But it's probably going to be a bit chewy as a result.

nemotrm
Dec 5, 2003

AFewBricksShy posted:

I don't get the engineered stone ban. Dry cutting granite will give you silicosis as easily as the quartz.

Granite is 10 to 50% quartz. Engineered stone is >90% quartz.

ComradePyro
Oct 6, 2009

AFewBricksShy posted:

I don't get the engineered stone ban. Dry cutting granite will give you silicosis as easily as the quartz.

I'm a total moron so don't take this as gospel, but the impression I got was that it looks identical to this other thing that won't gently caress up your lungs quite as fast/hard, so it's a complacency trap. That and the dust is like 95% silica vs somewhere around 70-80% with granite. Grain size is also gonna matter a lot, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the dust created from a typical job-site cut of engineered stone is much finer than from cutting granite.

Platystemon posted:

Ehhhh at least quartz doesn’t shed particles unless someone makes a purposeful effort to cut it.

A lot of stuff made with asbestos will release fibers if anyone so much as looks at it.

ye but I mentioned asbestos specifically because we (USA) still use it, just much more carefully than before. from what I understand, a lot of the thinking that goes into "can we put asbestos into this" is less concerned with it flaking to the touch and more concerned with rating the likelihood of some tradie taking a sawzall to it at some point, demo crews intreracting with it in exciting high-energy ways, etc. any time somebody finds asbestos, the #1 concern is "did you gently caress with it at all? please tell me you didn't find it during unmasked demolition".

I remember a bunch of incidents back in the day where, surprise, the school renovation is gonna take a bit longer cuz it turns out those weird ceiling tiles that get hairy when they break have made the auditorium all superfundy. pretty easy to imagine that the discovery was not cool, fun, or exciting for the people working that day. Rocks are everywhere man, we don't need to make and use this one kind of rock if it's gonna cost lives and we have plenty of reasonable of alternatives. I'd swap your countertops for a tradie's lung any day, it's already probably all hosed with tar already and slightly-less-hazardous dust so it needs all the help it can get.

When we were kids, an adult I don't remember let us help demo a house. It ended up pretty well-ventilated shortly, but we didn't have masks on. Stupid, dangerous, fun, totally unenhanced by an engineered stone countertop being epically shattered by excitable teenagers into powdered lung damage. the countertops were cheap wood and buckled gloriously.

ComradePyro fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Feb 21, 2024

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


shoeberto posted:

Someone can correct me but I'm guessing it's the eggs giving it a soufflé-like jiggle and airiness. But it's probably going to be a bit chewy as a result.

yeah thats what i was thinking too. i feel like i'd need to toast it a bit before eating.

extravadanza
Oct 19, 2007
Castella sponge cake isn't really as chewy as you would think, although it does have a lot of eggs. It's just ultralight sweetened sponge cake. If you are interested in trying it, visit a japanese market or Costcos in my area even carry it. It's quite nice as a light dessert.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


https://i.imgur.com/O8SxwaM.mp4

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

toolgifs you absolute legends

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

Doing stuff and things


LifeSunDeath posted:

toolgifs you absolute legends

Well you're in luck.
E: cheeky edit.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
https://v.redd.it/z49l64rsnyjc1/DASH_1080.mp4

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

Doing stuff and things



That dude sitting inches from being a smear.

Gruckles
Mar 11, 2013

shoeberto posted:

Someone can correct me but I'm guessing it's the eggs giving it a soufflé-like jiggle and airiness. But it's probably going to be a bit chewy as a result.

Separating the eggs, whipping the whites into a medium peaks meringue, and then folding that into the rest of the batter, gives it a super light texture.

DeeplyConcerned
Apr 29, 2008

I can fit 3 whole bud light cans now, ask me how!

That dude is surprisingly calm for having his entire truck explode around him. Major Captain Kirk vibes.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


mental shock will do that to you. the entire point of it is to keep you from freaking out to death

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Once again, the front fell off. Fortunately, the dude went safely with it.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
He was pulling some serious Gs there for a second

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
When you build houses, should you use tec screws or expansion foam to stick stuff to other stuff? Should you affix the framing to the slab with expansion bolts, or is nails enough? Should rooves rest on the frame, or can they just sort of lean against the gutters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW5OtOQxXL8

e: it's ok to frame using moldy timber, right? Or does it have to molder one affixed?

e2: I know black mold is bad, but white mold is ok right? I'm talking about framing timber here, p sturdy stuff

e3: what do I do if a steel beam bends? Spray foam?

e4: if say the supplier didn't send enough standards compliant steel framing for my house, say if some of it broke or whatever, I can just google "steel framing" and get some from alibaba?

e5: do you really need vertical load transfer paths under tile roof, like through suds or whatever, or can you just put like nothing underneath instead?

Karate Bastard fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Feb 21, 2024

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weg
Jun 6, 2006

Reassisted Retrogression

Dude was almost FederalExpired.

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