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All this vince stuff is very sad, just a real frowny face moment. But he also paid me a lot of money and gave me the belt a lot of times so idk
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It's insane that someone like Randy Orton can just be all "Wow, you guys hear about this?"
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It wouldn't shock me to learn that most people don't know about the Randy Orton stories. The best thing to ever happen to these bastards was the most of the public does not care about wrestling and reporters seem to care even less.
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Why is Nash canceled for his comments but people are bending over backwards to justify Cena's pretty awful defense of Vince?
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Feb 21, 2024 17:18
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<Bravely>: John Cena Suuuucks~~
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Pope Corky the IX posted:It's insane that someone like Randy Orton can just be all "Wow, you guys hear about this?" If I had worked 20 years at the place where main eventers were given sex slaves as signing bonuses you can bet your arse my response would be " Wow man, that shits crazy. Never heard about this til now"
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The fake dichotomy between sexual assault and "ribbing" or "hazing" has helped cover for the past behavior of too many of these motherfuckers. Rick Steiner only ended up getting cancelled over virulent transphobia when both him AND Scott got away with shoving markers up some referee's rear end in WCW as a rib.
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Feb 21, 2024 17:21
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all pranks/ribs are terrible. I hate that kind of poo poo. Just lovely behavior.
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Feb 21, 2024 17:23
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I mean some are funny, like when Owen and Steve had a fight with popcorn bags because they saw Dave Meltzer in the front row and tried to have the worst match they possibly could.
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Shard posted:all pranks/ribs are terrible. I hate that kind of poo poo. Just lovely behavior. This. Throw in that Wrestlers Court stuff, too. Just infantile behaviour by juiced up idiots.
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Pylons posted:I mean some are funny, like when Owen and Steve had a fight with popcorn bags because they saw Dave Meltzer in the front row and tried to have the worst match they possibly could. It really seems like the reason Owen stuck out as a prankster is that he actually understood what was a prank versus what was just assault. I can't find the template for the meme right now, but it's basically that thing of: <friend invites you to go watch a Wrestling Rib> me: is it an actual prank or some sort of bigoted assault? them: what? me: this rib, is it a prank or just some gross bigoted assault? them: it's a good Rib, friend <goes, finds out it is actually a bigoted assault>
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Feb 21, 2024 17:34
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Cena knew. Randy knew.
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SirPhoebos posted:Cena knew. Of course they knew. They encouraged it. The Diva Search was for the boys.
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Alan_Shore posted:Why is Nash canceled for his comments but people are bending over backwards to justify Cena's pretty awful defense of Vince? I'm not justifying anything, what Cena said is still loving awful and should rightly be mocked and condemned. With that said, I also don't think Nash ever got the "cult leader" treatment from Vince the way Cena did, so in theory Nash should know better, because he's made no secret of the fact that wrestling was just a means of getting paid to him. He wasn't an adherent to the WWE Cult the way someone like Cena was (and evidently still is). Obviously, Cena should know better also, because he's a grown man; but even guys like Mox have commented on how difficult it can be to get out of the "WWE mindset".
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Alan_Shore posted:Why is Nash canceled for his comments but people are bending over backwards to justify Cena's pretty awful defense of Vince? I'm not sure who you're referring to here but I'm guessing people might be more lenient towards Cena because he's a current mainstream star and one of the faces of not just WWE but wrestling in general. Nash was obviously a big star at one point too, but he's not exactly "current" in the same way. As such, certain groups are going to take criticism of Cena's defence of Vince (or, worse yet, accusations that he was directly involved) as an attack on their love of WWE/wrestling/something else that Cena's been in. It's incredibly stupid but it's been an Internet thing for years, and it's only gotten worse with regards to wrestling in recent times. The wording probably has a lot to do with it too. Cena, as is typical for him, speaks in lawyer-friendly terms, while Nash was ignorant and offensive with what he said. I know what you mean though, both can certainly be as bad as the other with regards to covering up someone's crimes.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I'm not sure who you're referring to here but I'm guessing people might be more lenient towards Cena because he's a current mainstream star and one of the faces of not just WWE but wrestling in general. Nash was obviously a big star at one point too, but he's not exactly "current" in the same way. As such, certain groups are going to take criticism of Cena's defence of Vince (or, worse yet, accusations that he was directly involved) as an attack on their love of WWE/wrestling/something else that Cena's been in. It's incredibly stupid but it's been an Internet thing for years, and it's only gotten worse with regards to wrestling in recent times. Also I seem to recall that in Nash's case, there was a certain amount of him trying to stick up for his boy HHH in his ignorant comments, rather than just trying to defend Vince. Which is even dumber, but there we are.
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I think it's because Cena said that he believes it but loves Vince and he wants to see him get better and a bunch of other cult poo poo while Nash said you can't groom an adult, that the accusers are likely lying because Linda found out, and that her lawyer is bad because she's blond. Oh also all the texts are fantasy and if you know Vince you know it's just his fantasy but none of it happened it's just fiction in texts.
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Feb 21, 2024 18:10
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gently caress John Cena.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:gently caress John Cena.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:gently caress John Cena. New Vince McMahon text just dropped.
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I think we can firmly put Cena not only in the "knew what's up" category but also in "partook and is hoping nothing else comes out". That's a man that is flailing unnecessarily if I ever saw one. He's got a guilty mind.
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UnleashedDad posted:I think we can firmly put Cena not only in the "knew what's up" category but also in "partook and is hoping nothing else comes out". That's a man that is flailing unnecessarily if I ever saw one. He's got a guilty mind. I don’t know if I’m ready to jump there yet. Dude always sounds like a robot lawyer whenever he talks or posts or whatever, so the tone and word choice don’t set off any bells for me. That being said, he and anyone else who trots out the “I love Vince and support my friend” poo poo can gently caress off forever.
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one of the few guys at vince's recent birthday party after the original news broke were Brock, Cena and current WWE color commentator Pat McAfee so i'm willing to say Cena knew and approved of the pictures Vince was showing him
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Jason said every single time they would come back from a dark match from TVs, Russ Haas was so depressed because "Quote Jim Ross and Quote Bruce Prichard" kept telling Russ: You guys are ready to go, you guys will be on tv but Russ you got to get bigger, Russ you got to get bigger, sorry Russ you got to get bigger." Russ finally gave in and began taking steroids and it was one occasion in which there was air in the needle and it got to his heart and killed him. Good 'ol JR.
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UnleashedDad posted:I think we can firmly put Cena not only in the "knew what's up" category but also in "partook and is hoping nothing else comes out". That's a man that is flailing unnecessarily if I ever saw one. He's got a guilty mind. Feel like you're jumping the gun here. He probably knew some extent of what was going on - Meltzer's words were (paraphrasing a bit here) "everybody knew some aspect of [it], but few knew the full extent of the depravity" and I'm hoping he falls into that category. gently caress him for leaping to Vince's defence though.
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UnleashedDad posted:I think we can firmly put Cena not only in the "knew what's up" category but also in "partook and is hoping nothing else comes out". That's a man that is flailing unnecessarily if I ever saw one. He's got a guilty mind. Yeah, I think there's going to be some pretty dark revelations coming out of this, in regards to Cena.
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1glitch0 posted:Good 'ol JR. he still bangs on about guys needing to put on mass. i swear every time he calls a chuck taylor match he says something to the same effect.
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Let’s put it this way, had he said the standard stuff I wouldn’t have considered it. Now I definitely do. You don’t talk word salad like that if something isn’t amiss. Just one man’s opinion.
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UnleashedDad posted:Let’s put it this way, had he said the standard stuff I wouldn’t have considered it. Now I definitely do. You don’t talk word salad like that if something isn’t amiss. Just one man’s opinion. They ALL knew about it and almost absolutely were actively involved in some aspect of it. Whether it's Cena or Orton or Levesque or Jim Ross or Heyman or Stephanie or whoever. No one who would object would have thrived at that high of a level in an organization ran by Vince McMahon.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:If Cena going on and on about how he "loves" Vince isn't proof that Vince ran WWE like a cult leader, then I dunno what is I've mentioned it before but on Jeff Jarrett's podcast he talks glowingly in one breath about Vince giving him time off so he can spend time with his wife who has cancer but in the next talks about how that time off means he couldn't meet his match quota so he was going to get paid less.
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garycoleisgod posted:This is disgraceful. Give him Owen's harness but tell him it's just a tour and he'll be completely safe.
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UnleashedDad posted:I think we can firmly put Cena not only in the "knew what's up" category but also in "partook and is hoping nothing else comes out". That's a man that is flailing unnecessarily if I ever saw one. He's got a guilty mind. This is pretty premature imo. But that was an absolute dogshit response Cena gave, good lord.
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I feel like Orton gave what would have been the best response for any top-level WWE guy so far, but it falls flat because it's Orton saying it.
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KungFu Grip posted:Brock, Cena and current WWE color commentator Pat McAfee You're in here with us, Pat!
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Cena's just telling the truth he saw nothing this is a shock and Vince I'd a father to him. Unrelated entirely, in the same interview he declared he had never ever touched a steroid or growth hormone.
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Ashley's daughter https://twitter.com/alexaiswell/status/1760145065538711907?s=46&t=9R2AdW-FYVa02hACqXevFw https://twitter.com/alexaiswell/status/1760153742685438236?s=46&t=9R2AdW-FYVa02hACqXevFw
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This sounds a lot like kanye's recent hitler tour https://x.com/brandonthurston/status/1760342858488266931
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Lid posted:Ashley's daughter for gently caress's sake watch the goddamn video first before you go off
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