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F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017






This game's winner is....Putin!

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Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
Secret KGB 5-Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

for-profit utilities are one of the most insane things about this country

dont forget, that if a for-profit utility tries to build a new power plant, fucks it up so bad they have to abandon it....not only do regular people have to pay for the costs of the power plant that never got built, they get to pay extra to make sure the for-profit utility gets a profit on their fuckup.

even if you start murdering people because you spent your maintenance money on executive bonuses, you just get to turn around and say "you need to give me more money or more people will die due to my selfish negligence oh and I still need to make a profit."


it really is a pretty sweet gig.

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020

Automata 10 Pack posted:

the modern political compass is simply whether or not you are opposed to neoliberalism and whether or not you scare the hoes

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

for-profit utilities are one of the most insane things about this country

Yeah at some point in the mid 50s after the US govt paid for and built the majority of dams and electrical generation facilities in the country, out political leaders made the collective decision to give it all to private business. Great decision!

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Punched in the heart, and you're to blame
Navalny, you give Russia a bad name

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
Navalny killed by The Five-Point-Palm Exploding Heart technique. Pei Mei seen fleeing the scene.

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002


I made this exact joke yesterday jfc

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

https://x.com/thehill/status/1760355288098410797?s=20

Uncle Wemus has issued a correction as of 18:58 on Feb 21, 2024

Adenoid Dan
Mar 8, 2012

The Hobo Serenader
Lipstick Apathy

HallelujahLee posted:

some random racist loser gets whacked in russia the entire west "horrible a travesty"

potentially over 50k dead in gaza including thousands of children the entire west "israel is good"

You can't point out the over 1000 annual deaths in custody in America or it's a whataboutism. Sure man I'll go protest Putin. He's much worse about imprisoning people than the world's largest carceral state.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024


As a result of these more recent efforts, a fragile de-escalation had taken hold by mid-2023. Iranian proxies had stopped attacking American forces, and Tehran had hit the pause button on high-level uranium enrichment. In return, Washington unfroze some Iranian funds and agreed to a prisoner exchange that took place in September of that year. Significantly, this relatively successful round of talks paved the way for an even more ambitious round of negotiations that was meant to take place in Oman on Oct. 18.

And here’s where the monster Tehran has created began wreaking havoc on its creator. Against the backdrop of an American election year, and with Iran widely viewed as being complicit in the Hamas atrocities but later also the aggressive actions of Hezbollah and the Houthis, serious diplomatic engagement between Washington and Tehran became impossible to sustain. The Oman talks were quickly canceled — with little prospect of their being revived any time soon.

To continue with the analogy, negotiations with the U.S. that might have decisively secured Iran’s nuclear program collapsed because the monster Tehran created has a mind of its own and, like Dr. Frankenstein’s monster, Tehran’s monsters are hell-bent on inflicting pain and suffering on those they believe to be the source of their own pain and suffering — irrespective of the concerns of their Iranian patron.

Thus the Hamas atrocities of Oct. 7. Thus the Houthi efforts to disrupt Red Sea shipping. Thus Hezbollah’s so far limited — but potentially far more dangerous — rocket attacks on northern Israel. All of which were or are being driven by the respective agendas of the members of the axis of resistance, not by Iran. And thus, ultimately, Washington’s decision to pause — or perhaps indefinitely suspend — negotiations that might have led to a modus vivendi with Tehran that would secure the regime and open the door to greater prosperity for the Iranian people.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Gorson posted:

I'm on vacation with extended family (libs except for one libertarian). The libertarian, who is more or less Greenwald in ideology, got into a heated argument about funding Ukraine and Israel with one of the libs.

Good:
Biden
Haley
Navalny

Bad:
Trump
Putin

No ideology, no policy, no "where do we want to be and how to we get there?". Just Red v Blue with the media picking the teams.

Why are you vacationing in D&D?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Trabisnikof posted:

dont forget, that if a for-profit utility tries to build a new power plant, fucks it up so bad they have to abandon it....not only do regular people have to pay for the costs of the power plant that never got built, they get to pay extra to make sure the for-profit utility gets a profit on their fuckup.

even if you start murdering people because you spent your maintenance money on executive bonuses, you just get to turn around and say "you need to give me more money or more people will die due to my selfish negligence oh and I still need to make a profit."


it really is a pretty sweet gig.

My power company got hit with a huge judgement for the 2020 wildfires they did and so they’re trying to jack the rates to cover that instead of letting the shareholders take a hit

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Adenoid Dan posted:

You can't point out the over 1000 annual deaths in custody in America or it's a whataboutism. Sure man I'll go protest Putin. He's much worse about imprisoning people than the world's largest carceral state.

it comes down to it that they dont actually care about any of it they're worthless psychos that simply want to impose their garbage ideology or lack of on the world

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

a more spider-man pointing at spider-man headline was never written

veepfake
Oct 21, 2005



this story is dem politicians can't decide between protecting their climate and their money* and politico's takeaway is "dems dont money and market good"

Trabisnikof posted:

yes!! exactly!

the entire democratic party has cosigned the economists on a policy of tax, credits, penalties, etc all fundamentally that if it worked, is supposed to make fossil fuels too expensive to use. that's the goal. so of course people are going to experience massive increases in prices, that's the plan working.

but doing the simple and obvious thing of setting phaseout dates and banning fossil fuel uses, we can't do that, it wouldn't be political feasible instead we must do the plan that involves us spending decades causing everyone's cost of survival rise for no perceived benefit. that's smart politics.

and that's not even getting into the other side of the coin, that using "the market" to do everything means that even if it works, you can't plan around it. Their dream is that just one day the gas station down the road will shut down, or your gas utility will send you a 30 day notice saying "sorry gas is too expensive, we're cutting off your house" or that the refinery just lays off all its workers one day. that little extra cruelty and chaos is just a bonus and if we actually planned phaseout...why those communities could be prepared and suffering could be averted but where is the fun in that.

* with a dash of "leaving things up to chance is a bad plan"

veepfake has issued a correction as of 19:36 on Feb 21, 2024

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Can't believe Steve Jail killed Navalny

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

veepfake posted:

isnt that what's supposed to happen

no see people aren't taking advantage of all the PROGRAMS to make their homes more energy efficient if they only knew about the PROGRAMS they'd take advantage of them and it would work see it's the people's fault

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

HashtagGirlboss posted:

My power company got hit with a huge judgement for the 2020 wildfires they did and so they’re trying to jack the rates to cover that instead of letting the shareholders take a hit

Wasn't there talk about California taking it over?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Shageletic posted:

Wasn't there talk about California taking it over?

I’m in Oregon so this is pacific power but yeah I think there is talk of PG&E being unsalvageable

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


is pepsi ok posted:

Campaign: Get interviewed by 60 Minutes

You enter the room and sit across from the interviewer who greets you. Good evening Madame Vice President, thank you for joining me.

"Uh ok, I'll roll for a charisma check to respond normally"

Ok, you roll a -14. You are now singing the itsy bitsy spider song but you've changed the lyrics to be about recognizing the context of the moment you stand in.

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro

HallelujahLee posted:

some random racist loser gets whacked in russia the entire west "horrible a travesty"

potentially over 50k dead in gaza including thousands of children the entire west "israel is good"

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

Nichael posted:

Why are you vacationing in D&D?

That's the vibe yeah. Ironically it was my liberal upbringing that exposed the stupidity of it all. Neoliberalism is a disease and if it is not cured at an early age it causes permanent brain damage.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

veepfake posted:

isnt that what's supposed to happen

yes!! exactly!

the entire democratic party has cosigned the economists on a policy of tax, credits, penalties, etc all fundamentally that if it worked, is supposed to make fossil fuels too expensive to use. that's the goal. so of course people are going to experience massive increases in prices, that's the plan working.

but doing the simple and obvious thing of setting phaseout dates and banning fossil fuel uses, we can't do that, it wouldn't be political feasible instead we must do the plan that involves us spending decades causing everyone's cost of survival rise for no perceived benefit. that's smart politics.

and that's not even getting into the other side of the coin, that using "the market" to do everything means that even if it works, you can't plan around it. Their dream is that just one day the gas station down the road will shut down, or your gas utility will send you a 30 day notice saying "sorry gas is too expensive, we're cutting off your house" or that the refinery just lays off all its workers one day. that little extra cruelty and chaos is just a bonus and if we actually planned phaseout...why those communities could be prepared and suffering could be averted but where is the fun in that.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

The Nudge and it’s consequences (Obama reading it) have been a disaster for all mankind

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

Secret KGB 5-Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique

*anime lines in the background as i gasp in astonishment" that move's forbidden

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
There cannot be a martial arts gap. We must develop a 6-point exploding heart technique.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

SniperWoreConverse posted:

There cannot be a martial arts gap. We must develop a 6-point exploding heart technique.

I try to whisper in the general's ear that this would actually be less efficient but it's already too late, they're making a squarespace website for it

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021
Navalny read a sign placed in the middle of the road and died from a Blood Explosion Spell. Some say they saw Americans BLJ'ing away from the scene.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

yellowcar posted:

security footage of the assassin that killed navalny

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

Trabisnikof posted:

and that's not even getting into the other side of the coin, that using "the market" to do everything means that even if it works, you can't plan around it. Their dream is that just one day the gas station down the road will shut down, or your gas utility will send you a 30 day notice saying "sorry gas is too expensive, we're cutting off your house" or that the refinery just lays off all its workers one day. that little extra cruelty and chaos is just a bonus and if we actually planned phaseout...why those communities could be prepared and suffering could be averted but where is the fun in that.

sounds to me like there's a ripe market for a consulting business advising small municipalities on strategies for graceful phaseouts

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

Probably Magic posted:

I've seen posts unironically saying that Putin has more blood on his hands than Israel. There is no saving that forum.

someone said the us was less culpable for the palestinian holocaust than Egypt, because Egypt refuses to participate in the palestinian holocaust

it's a forum of kapos who would have joyously tossed their families in the furnace 90 years ago

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Been watching that new Starship Troopers thing.

Spreading "managed democracy" sounds like the most lib thing ever.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

spacetoaster posted:

Been watching that new Starship Troopers thing.

Spreading "managed democracy" sounds like the most lib thing ever.

there's lots of good little touches

the in game store has star reviews for the items that are all effusive 5-stars and super generic, and then there's a little note at the bottom that the reviews are algorithmically generated by the Ministry of Truth to mimic correct patriotic thoughts, and every now and then there's a sub 5-star review that just says REDACTED - INDIVIDUAL UNDER INVESTIGSTION

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
:rip: bernie porn

https://twitter.com/umichvoter/status/1760336335099896075

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

uninterrupted posted:

it's a forum of kapos who would have joyously tossed their families in the furnace 90 years ago
They operate according to the same Very Serious People Principle as the zombies they revere; it doesn't matter if your beliefs and positions are objectively right or wrong, it only matters if they were considered credible and mainstream at the time you held them. Being ahead of the curve on things like "Saddam Hussein doesn't have WMDs" or "Donald Trump is definitely not a deep cover agent for a remnant of the KGB" is just as barbaric as continuing to insist in 2023 that Saddam had nukes.

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002


gently caress off biden no one likes you

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

https://twitter.com/leaublue/status/1760348724574957996

"I will prioritize my uterus over drones" energy

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




I hope Michigan voters follow through with their threat about voting uncommitted. It won't matter in terms of the primary itself but it'll be hilarious and a huge gently caress you to Genocide Joe. The anti-Biden movement seems to have legs.

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TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


loquacius posted:

https://twitter.com/leaublue/status/1760348724574957996

"I will prioritize my uterus over drones" energy

Lmao that Biden has half of the approval rating of a fairly boring centrist dem governor among da youth. Hell yeah, brother, just straight inverting the approval rating of someone who is basically the same politics as you

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