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GreenBuckanneer posted:Blue decks and mill decks are garbage did your craterhoof get milled
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Mill decks sucked in Hearthstone because there was very little counterplay and you kind of knew the second you saw the main mill murloc creature ETB of your deck could race it or not. Mill in magic is hilarious and I struggle to see why anyone would list alongside something more obviously frustrating like a blue deck. A blue deck can stop you playing the cards in hand, which can feel annoying. A mill deck mills cards in your deck that might as well not exist unless they are in your hand. Even better, a mill deck can remove a bunch of poo poo you don't wanna draw later, even more betterer a mill deck can enable a shitload of cards that are cast from graveyard! The only thing that really sucks about mill in MtG is you will probably see Jace and christ what a boring and terrible character to have been created. It's rude to remind people they not only wrote such a character, but also roped more than one artist into illustrating him.
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Feb 21, 2024 17:34
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I love blue decks and mill decks  Urza won a pod last night. I got a huge board early, got wiped. Built up 2 karnstructs, swung with them and Urza for lethal. I saw the line a turn out, cyc rift with counterspell backup. Officious Interrogation got me 18 clues after someone played Avenger of Zendikar right before my turn. Mishra fared far worse. Krenko and Helm of the Host generated a huge amount of goblins, then someone cast a board wipe that pinged per creature destroyed. My last game action was getting 40 more goblins before the purge, pumping someone's Yahenni to ludicrous levels. GreenBuckanneer posted:also decks that end up being solitare at the table also suck Silhouette posted:did your craterhoof get milled
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Feb 21, 2024 17:39
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I had someone mutter "I hate mill decks, I hate mill decks, I hate mill decks" no fewer than fifty times last week when I played Rogues.
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Feb 21, 2024 18:41
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I like playing Mill because I like my opponents to have a chance.
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Feb 21, 2024 18:53
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Blue decks and mill decks are garbage 
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Feb 21, 2024 18:54
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Do milk haters also get pissed if a game ends and they have not drawn every card in their deck?
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Feb 21, 2024 19:00
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I had mesmeric orb in the Mycotyrant self-mill deck and people got so salty about it that I instead put insidious roots in, which was a missing piece of a semi-elaborate infinite that I purposefully left out to be a little less powerful.
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Feb 21, 2024 19:04
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Balon posted:I like playing Mill because I like my opponents to have a chance to watch me steal their creatures and artifacts.  Fixed for me and my Capn N'Gathrod deck.
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Feb 21, 2024 19:08
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I had to look mesmeric orb and that one sounds annoying not because of the mill, but because it adds a chore to what is otherwise a fairly thoughtless and automatic process. That effect is cool but it should be worded such that the burden of tracking, counting, and reminding is fully on the one who played the orb. I also like how it puts a hard limit on infinite untap combos.
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Feb 21, 2024 19:10
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Khanstant posted:I had to look mesmeric orb and that one sounds annoying not because of the mill, but because it adds a chore to what is otherwise a fairly thoughtless and automatic process. It's an incredibly good card but people will just instantly gang up on you for it
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Feb 21, 2024 19:18
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https://x.com/magicalgirlkyra/status/1574945688105861120Balon posted:I like playing Mill because I like my opponents to have a chance.
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Feb 21, 2024 19:22
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i want my blue One Piece self mill deck to work because that's the win condition.
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Feb 21, 2024 19:32
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I like mill as a source of damage, like Syr Konrad or Duskmantle Guildmage and something like a kicked Maddening Cacophony or Cut Your Losses, coupled with UUBB Lazav, in case someone survives. I'll even count how many cards they need to mill!
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Feb 21, 2024 19:50
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People get very upset when I tell them that the mill in my Rogues deck is incidental. I'm not trying to mill you out, I'm trying to draw cards!
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Feb 21, 2024 20:19
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People say they hate mill. But then they turn around and say that I'm being a bad guy by preventing them from milling out by drawing cards for them with Notion Thief. Make up your mind.
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Feb 22, 2024 01:56
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berenzen posted:People say they hate mill. But then they turn around and say that I'm being a bad guy by preventing them from milling out by drawing cards for them with Notion Thief. Make up your mind. I get to do both with my Rogues deck.
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Feb 22, 2024 01:59
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Bayham Badger posted:I like mill as a source of damage, like Syr Konrad or Duskmantle Guildmage and something like a kicked Maddening Cacophony or Cut Your Losses, coupled with UUBB Lazav, in case someone survives.  + 
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Feb 22, 2024 03:13
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I respect people going for a mill victory, because they looked at the 40 life count, and decided that instead their wincon is to deplete the health bar that's over twice as long. If I ever make a commander deck from scratch, it's gonna be Captain N'gath. Unfortunately it'd have to be completely from scratch, because I own like two Horrors.
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Feb 22, 2024 03:30
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Cleretic posted:If I ever make a commander deck from scratch, it's gonna be Captain N'gath. Unfortunately it'd have to be completely from scratch, because I own like two Horrors. as someone with a cap'n deck, you'd probably be better off buying the precon if you can find it at a good price, it contains like 75% of the good horrors in it already so its all in one package lol
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Feb 22, 2024 04:03
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Just play Bloodchief Ascension if you're going to play Mindcrank.
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Feb 22, 2024 04:35
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Cleretic posted:I respect people going for a mill victory, because they looked at the 40 life count, and decided that instead their wincon is to deplete the health bar that's over twice as long. Horrors is super cheap tribe it was the cheapest precon I ever upgraded works really loving well.
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Feb 22, 2024 06:21
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Guys guys I got a Krark, the Thumbless and I'm rebuilding my Slimes Against Humanity as Gruul with Reyhan and Krark, I'll let you know how it goes. Edit: I meant Jund. Reyhan and Krark. I'm drunk in Hawaii, my ship is broken. Mr. Bad Guy fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Feb 22, 2024 |
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Feb 22, 2024 06:30
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Batterypowered7 posted:Just play Bloodchief Ascension if you're going to play Mindcrank. You run both.  Cleretic posted:I respect people going for a mill victory, because they looked at the 40 life count, and decided that instead their wincon is to deplete the health bar that's over twice as long. This is what Emry does, and it's awesome. 
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Feb 22, 2024 15:34
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So I think I'm giving up on making my wife a U/B Gale deck. If you're making a U/B spells matter commander deck and running 40ish instants and sorceries, there's really only a few ways that you can go and none of them are particularly fun to play, or play against. You can run lots of rituals and high tide and mana rocks and play storm, or you can play proliferate and poison counters, or you can play lots of card draw and tutors and combo and draw your whole deck and win with thoracle or lab maniac. I don't think there are quite a critical mass of token makers like Talrand and Lord of the Nazgul and Murmuring Mystic to win by attacking with tokens. And anyway, she likes green better. So, now I'm making U/G Gale, with Raised by Giants. Now Gale can be a 10/10, ramp a shitload of lands and also buff spells, and kill people with commander damage! This is almost certainly worse, but probably more fun. Since counterspells don't really have synergy with Gale (because you can cast a sorcery from your gy when you counter a spell, but you can't usually cast a counterspell from the gy by casting a sorcery) It's mostly just cantrips and Simic Ramp into Big Dumb Stuff! I just really wish Berserk wasn't $20, its a cool effect, but not THAT cool.
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Feb 22, 2024 16:10
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Batterypowered7 posted:Just play Bloodchief Ascension if you're going to play Mindcrank. it goes in the 99 ya dingus AlternateNu posted:You run both. 
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Feb 22, 2024 16:12
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A Moose posted:So I think I'm giving up on making my wife a U/B Gale deck. If you're making a U/B spells matter commander deck and running 40ish instants and sorceries, there's really only a few ways that you can go and none of them are particularly fun to play, or play against. You can run lots of rituals and high tide and mana rocks and play storm, or you can play proliferate and poison counters, or you can play lots of card draw and tutors and combo and draw your whole deck and win with thoracle or lab maniac. I don't think there are quite a critical mass of token makers like Talrand and Lord of the Nazgul and Murmuring Mystic to win by attacking with tokens. And anyway, she likes green better. Is there a background that supports chowing down on artifacts?
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Feb 22, 2024 16:17
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Aphrodite posted:Is there a background that supports chowing down on artifacts? Clan Crafter and Street Urchin let your commander eat artifacts. Agent of the Iron Throne drains when you eat artifacts, Guild artisan makes more artifacts to eat.
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Feb 22, 2024 16:20
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Ended up with Gishath + Bear Queen decks for my son and Rin&Serin + Emiel unicorns for daughter. For myself i got Roon (blink), Avacyn, Isshin, Henzie, Edgar Markov, Voja. Played a couple of rounds this weekend with Roon and Avacyn. I had never played blink before and have been curious about such playstyles for a long while, which is why i got this deck. Blink was decently fun, though it took a few turns before i got to blink anything at all and like 3 turns later i was playing full singleplayer solitaire. I won the round, taking out all 3 opponents (no infinite) but didn’t really have that much fun. I don’t enjoy sitting there trying to work out all the math and interactions while the other players wait for me. The Avacyn deck looked real interesting on paper but in practice i only got to flip her once. The hunt for the perfect playstyle/deck continues. I enjoy doing multiple things per turn (and card draw is my favorite thing in the game) but i don’t enjoy doing so many things that turns take 10 minutes like with the Roon deck. I hate winning with infinite combos, those wins are real phyrric. I hate the infect/poison mechanic and its interaction vs players I prefer beneficial effects for me vs oppressive effects for my opponents (e.g. i gain 2 life on card draw > opponent lose 2 life on card draw)
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Feb 22, 2024 16:38
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Ineptitude posted:Ended up with Gishath + Bear Queen decks for my son and Rin&Serin + Emiel unicorns for daughter. The new teysa, opulent oligarch is pretty fun in that your turns are very short but you're incentivized to crack clues on other people's turns so you'll always be doing something. At its heart it's a death and taxes deck but you can actually go pretty wide and then clean up with starlight spectacular or moonshaker.
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Feb 22, 2024 16:50
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Kurieg posted:Clan Crafter and Street Urchin let your commander eat artifacts. Agent of the Iron Throne drains when you eat artifacts, Guild artisan makes more artifacts to eat. I considered this, but there aren't enough boot artifacts to feed him, you have lighting greaves, swiftfoot boots, trailblazer's boots, like 6 total and most of them are bad. Also when you play Gale with a red background, you really have to stop yourself from playing storm with Passionate Archaeologist. Burn is a little easier to do and I saw someone made a deck with Dragon Cultist around that idea. Agent of the Iron Throne could be competitive, but and there's less overlap with spells, so its more focused on the background and less focused on Gale's ability. For some reason, there's almost nothing on EDHrec for this combo. It seems pretty easy to put together a list without it but I thought it was interesting. Mostly its because I'm making this for my wife, who really likes Gale, and likes green. 10/10 Gale is also funny I might just rebuild this deck every once in a while and change the 2nd color to keep it fresh.
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Feb 22, 2024 17:00
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My buddy gave me a copy of voja and anzrag so I made a deck real quick last night and Voja gets out of hand insanely quickly. Still missing a lot of good poo poo for the deck but it’s very fun.
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Okay my goons, if you are at all curious about the feasibility of Reyhan and Krark as that DINK couple that adopted a shitload of It's predictably unpredictable. Krark is always going to be feast-or-famine, but if you're playing multiplayer, that's not a bad thing. Turn 5: "Oh man, Krark is loving me, I can barely keep up with you guys, I am not a threat at all, gee whiz." Turn 6: "I cast Primal Vigor (because I'm poor and can't justify $40 for Doubling Season). I summon 4x 6/6's, 4x 8/8's, and 4x 10/10's. They have haste and trample. 96 coming at you." (I had Invigorating Hot Spring for haste, and Semblance Anvil for 1-Drop SAH's, which helps a TON if Krark keeps NOPEing them back to your hand.) Mr. Bad Guy fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Feb 22, 2024 |
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Feb 22, 2024 18:46
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A Moose posted:I considered this, but there aren't enough boot artifacts to feed him, you have lighting greaves, swiftfoot boots, trailblazer's boots, like 6 total and most of them are bad. Also when you play Gale with a red background, you really have to stop yourself from playing storm with Passionate Archaeologist. Burn is a little easier to do and I saw someone made a deck with Dragon Cultist around that idea. Someone at my lgs had built a gale with black background deck. Getting hit with 3 tasha's hideous laughters while playing a UR storm deck was rough af.
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Feb 22, 2024 19:51
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Just Pre-Ordered the Fallout commander set for Mothman because this badass is going to be in it: Your ride's over, mutie. Time to die
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Feb 23, 2024 03:51
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Mothmen are sorely missing from most games so I thank Fallout 76 for finally getting there for Fallout.
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Feb 23, 2024 06:09
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Hizke posted:My buddy gave me a copy of voja and anzrag so I made a deck real quick last night and Voja gets out of hand insanely quickly. Still missing a lot of good poo poo for the deck but it’s very fun. The Game Knights Voja player got out Walking Throne naming "Wolf" and proceeded to kill the rest of the table with commander damage.
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Feb 23, 2024 06:13
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I have a poo poo ton of kaladesh bulk that might make that commander deck shine. It will make Electrostatic Pummler easy to fit in the deck with what cards worked greatly to make mono green standard back in the day. The issue might be actually making this a win condition if and when you do this without tutors. The full decklist isnt out yet for the Mothman commander. But I am still getting it.
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Feb 23, 2024 06:25
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Im not super into fallout, but i definitely preordered the mothmam deck, partly because i don’t have a deck in those colors. I hope that the singles are gonna be cheap because people will buy the poo poo outta these.
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I'm at Magiccon Chicago! Probably going to meander aimlessly before sitting in panels all day. If there are any Goon meets this weekend I'd love to meet and hang out. And I need a VIP to get me a Fallout Sol Ring playmat before they sell out in the AM.
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