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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Mister Bates posted:

I am frankly disappointed that no one suggested 'chairmen'

We have a winner

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Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008



they call them space bases but they have no means of getting anything into space other than giving an insane drugged up nazi billions of dollars. that's a bit on the nose

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Reddit finally got what it wanted: an entire military branch all to themselves.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

personally i cant wait until the space force gets its own canoe-happy tier 1 operators

maybe we can just skip the intermediate steps and call them helldivers

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

What about “Airmen” did anyone consider that?

Ain’t no air in space

Orbis Tertius
Feb 13, 2007

Maltloaf posted:

Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end with superior battlespace awareness and understanding. We shall solve this data problem in France, we shall invest in interoperable, federated infrastructure on the seas and oceans, we shall quickly leverage data to build analytical solutions with growing governance and growing data assurance in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the metrics may be. We shall focus our baseline needs on the beaches, we shall advance the analytic ecosystem on the landing grounds, we shall expand digital talent management in the fields and in the streets, we shall ultilise fast, precise and resilient kill chains in the hills; we shall never surrender. And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the Space Force Deltas, would carry on the efficient enterprise business operations until, in God's good time, Capital, with all its power and might, steps forth to advance capabilities for enterprise business and joint warfighting impact, removing policy barriers to ensure the contract vehicles are deliverable.

:golfclap:

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Delta_Zero

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
loving Star Fleet uniforms, lmao

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

The Oldest Man posted:

personally i cant wait until the space force gets its own canoe-happy tier 1 operators

maybe we can just skip the intermediate steps and call them helldivers



Space Operations Command

Space Operations Command, with headquarters at Peterson Space Force Base, Colorado, is one of three Field Commands reporting to Headquarters, US Space Force at the Pentagon, Washington, D.C.

Space Operations Command protects America and our Allies in, from, and to space…now and into the future. As the first United States Space Force (USSF) Field Command Headquarters, HQ SpOC must generate, present, and sustain combat-ready intelligence, cyber, space, and combat support forces.

SpOC provides Space Domain Awareness; Space Electronic Warfare; Missile Warning,; Command and Control; Cyber Operations; Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance; Position, Navigation and Timing; and Orbital Warfare capabilities to Space Force and to US Space Command and other Combatant Commands.



The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

I don't see fifty attachments on that rifle or an overly complex helmet-mounted optic, doesn't count

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
At least they got the proto-nazi tactilol pieces of flair

Edit: You don't get to call it a "Space Base" if it isn't in loving space

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


You laugh now, but once musk gets starship up and running and fields a 50-troop capacity intercontinental dropship/incidental troop pressure cooker, suddenly space force won't be so cringey...

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

pointless tangent but, the Pentagon looks like such a lovely place to work. 4/5 offices have a window looking out on a shadowy courtyard and it's a needlessly long walk to get to anywhere

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:



Space Operations Command

Space Operations Command, with headquarters at Peterson Space Force Base, Colorado, is one of three Field Commands reporting to Headquarters, US Space Force at the Pentagon, Washington, D.C.

Space Operations Command protects America and our Allies in, from, and to space…now and into the future. As the first United States Space Force (USSF) Field Command Headquarters, HQ SpOC must generate, present, and sustain combat-ready intelligence, cyber, space, and combat support forces.

SpOC provides Space Domain Awareness; Space Electronic Warfare; Missile Warning,; Command and Control; Cyber Operations; Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance; Position, Navigation and Timing; and Orbital Warfare capabilities to Space Force and to US Space Command and other Combatant Commands.





lmao they called it Spock

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021
So like. Is there any precedent for abolishing arms of the military? Cause Space Force certainly seems like a ripe candidate for culling. I'm a little surprised Biden has kept it around.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Aren't they created by an act of congress in the states?

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Aren't they created by an act of congress in the states?

Oh you're completely right. gently caress me then. I thought it was just one of the perks of being the CIC.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
Trump should run on the fact that he made Stargate SG-1 real

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



As the first United States Larp Force (USLF) Larp Command Headquarters, LCHQ must generate, present, and sustain CON-ready intelligence, cyber, snack, and shower support forces.

Tempora Mutantur
Feb 22, 2005

Bar Crow posted:

Ain’t no air in space

fine. vacuummen, or suckers for short

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Justin Tyme posted:

You laugh now, but once musk gets starship up and running and fields a 50-troop capacity intercontinental dropship/incidental troop pressure cooker, suddenly space force won't be so cringey...

waiting on news that starships are controlled by a madcatz controller

e: oh no - is it a touch screen interface instead??

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Maltloaf posted:

Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end with superior battlespace awareness and understanding. We shall solve this data problem in France, we shall invest in interoperable, federated infrastructure on the seas and oceans, we shall quickly leverage data to build analytical solutions with growing governance and growing data assurance in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the metrics may be. We shall focus our baseline needs on the beaches, we shall advance the analytic ecosystem on the landing grounds, we shall expand digital talent management in the fields and in the streets, we shall ultilise fast, precise and resilient kill chains in the hills; we shall never surrender. And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the Space Force Deltas, would carry on the efficient enterprise business operations until, in God's good time, Capital, with all its power and might, steps forth to advance capabilities for enterprise business and joint warfighting impact, removing policy barriers to ensure the contract vehicles are deliverable.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Tempora Mutantur posted:

fine. vacuummen, or suckers for short

I prefer violencenauts

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Delta-Wye posted:

waiting on news that starships are controlled by a madcatz controller

e: oh no - is it a touch screen interface instead??

Elon thought making a vibration-compensating touch screen was a better way to control the most dangerous and least reliable vehicle conceived by man than buttons and lights

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010
the Air Force really really wanted its own independent manned space program, they spent most of the 1950s and 1960s yelling about it, with the Air Force's unsuccessful Man In Space Soonest program actually predating NASA.

they came really close to getting it and there was some old equipment - flight suits, etc. - made for intended Air Force use sitting around in closets in NASA facilities until the 2000s.

In particular they really wanted an Air Force space station program and put a lot of time and money into developing one, although they could never really identify any use case for it beyond 'we want it', which ultimately got it canned. the toilet they designed for it did ultimately end up getting used in NASA's civilian space station program, though, so at least something useful came out of it.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013


Thought that looked like Ukrainian patch for a second but it turns out to be a different skull patch.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Hatebag posted:

the osprey was ordered because of the failures of operation: eagle claw, the mission to extract american hostages from iran in 1980. that mission failed after delta force murdered some fuel smugglers and then flew straight into a haboob, disabling 3 of the 8 helicopters involved, and then everyone left in a huff. but the osprey intakes have killed dozens of marines because their air intakes didn't have adequate filters so if they suck in a bit of dust they immediately crash

And then they made a big dancing-in-the-endzone oscar movie celebrating the side story of smuggling out a handful of Americans, conveniently handeaved the Canadians who were responsible for getting them out.

Rewriting the most humiliating diplomatic incident in American history into a heart warming story. Classic neolibs in a nutshell.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

There were Hi-Powers stamped 1945 that worked fantastic as long as the magazines had new springs. This sort of thing kills me.

I don’t have high hopes that the new bespoke Tikka .308 (how this differs from 7.62 je ne sais pas) outlasts the Lee-Enfields just being retired this year either.

Apparently it's not recommended to fire .308 from a 7.62 chamber because the brass is slightly thinner and the pressure is slightly higher, while the 7.62 chamber is slightly longer.
My guess is because the rangers are likely to be firing at significantly longer ranges than typical, being able to purchase higher quality ammunition is why they have opted for the .308.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Hatebag posted:

A.I.rwolf

Why is the wolf r-worded?


I want a Tom Clancy Space Force novel not gonna lie. Is this what AI is for?

Orange Devil has issued a correction as of 23:01 on Feb 21, 2024

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

SixteenShells posted:

pointless tangent but, the Pentagon looks like such a lovely place to work. 4/5 offices have a window looking out on a shadowy courtyard and it's a needlessly long walk to get to anywhere
is it possible to cut across?

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


Orange Devil posted:

Why is the wolf r-worded?


well, how smart do you think an american a.i. helicopter built now would be?

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Very good point.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

SixteenShells posted:

pointless tangent but, the Pentagon looks like such a lovely place to work. 4/5 offices have a window looking out on a shadowy courtyard and it's a needlessly long walk to get to anywhere

It took a jet liner crashing into it pretty well though

Orange Devil posted:

I remember doing a presentation to my whole high school class for history where I argued that that movie was racist as all gently caress.

Your class I'm sure was just confused at all the guns in a christmas movie

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

The Pentagon would be a lot harder to storm than the Reichstag just saying

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
This time "Stringfellow" is the internet handle of a Latina Afghan war drone pilot veteran who flies the "AI.wolf" drone from her mother's basement with the help of a sassy GPT chatbot.

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

mawarannahr posted:

is it possible to cut across?

I assume so. There's a cafe in the center apparently, and a cute little park.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

FirstnameLastname posted:

it will go great

Service for citizenship probably will. The US Navy has, or at least had a decade ago, a poo poo ton of Filipinos doing service for their citizenship. Since they werent citizens and couldnt get a clearance they generally ended up in the supply department, particularly as cooks. They're informally referred to as the Filipino Mafia, and the galley on the ship I was on was fully controlled by Filipinos. The captain had to eventually come down on them to stop siphoning off supplies for their private lumpia lunches unless they cooked for the crew, and to speak english during working hours because the handful of white and black cooks were otherwise completely excluded. They also had their own complex soap opera going on of favoritism and loving, and the non-Filipino cooks understood they were never getting promoted.

Also they were universally the most psychotic patriots Ive ever met, and insisted on singing the national anthem every day and had an insatiable blood thirst for the foes of America that was wild on a cook

So yeah I think the armed forces could do with a lot more of that

Nix Panicus has issued a correction as of 23:34 on Feb 21, 2024

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

I thought Filipino galley workers were like Chinese laundry in the RN, and so wasn't a path to citizenship like normal naval ratings?

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002

Nothus posted:

This time "Stringfellow" is the internet handle of a Latina Afghan war drone pilot veteran who flies the "AI.wolf" drone from her mother's basement with the help of a sassy GPT chatbot.

oh. gently caress

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Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

A brief search suggests the program that went directly from resident of the Philippines to US citizen was ended awhile back, but it had already created a strong tradition of Filipinos in the Navy, and if you're already a resident alien in the US you can accelerate the citizenship process through service. So I guess Philippines -> immigrate to the US -> US Navy -> US citizen is the pipeline now

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

I thought Filipino galley workers were like Chinese laundry in the RN, and so wasn't a path to citizenship like normal naval ratings?

'Culinary Specialist (CS)' is a normal US Navy rate that anyone can contract for (although *why*) or get placed in. If you enlist undesignated, that is without a rate specified in your contract, (or fail to qualify for your contracted rate) they can and will make you a CS if they need them.

Nix Panicus has issued a correction as of 23:46 on Feb 21, 2024

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