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Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

is there a freedom and liberty button a la rock n stone from DRG?

There is a salute button

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Bandire
Jul 12, 2002

a rabid potato

DarkDobe posted:

Arc becomes wildly powerful if all 4 people are running it.
It takes about 12-16 shots to kill a charger, and with 4 people that takes about 2 seconds.

Do with this information what you will.

I'm all for playing around and not just using the meta, but all four players needing to use gun or strategem for it to be "strong" probably means its not very strong. Two railgun shots and an Uzi mag to the same leg will kill a charger pretty quick. We'll probably see a big balance patch once the servers aren't constantly melting down, because there are several guns and call downs that need some help.

Edit: \/\/\/ The autocannon is a great compliment to the railgun for sure. Its also great for popping Spore Mushrooms and illegal broadcast towers from a mile away.

Bandire fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Feb 21, 2024

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Thumbtacks posted:

i love the autocannon but it's starting to seem like it falls off a lot on higher difficulties, doesn't do much to chargers and i feel like i might as well be tickling any huge enemy.

It's very strong against chargers if your buddy has a rail gun. One shot to a stripped leg kills it.

Also it's really good for shooting their rear end off when it's chasing your friend 60m away

Quaint Quail Quilt
Jun 19, 2006


Ask me about that time I told people mixing bleach and vinegar is okay
I only ran arc a handful of missions but I killed some bile titans with it, probably just finished them off, and was impressing people when it blew a wad of armor off its flank.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Tom Tucker posted:

Best tip I've gotten so far has been "Remember: Freedom!"

this game needs a "rock and stone" button badly

Fishstick
Jul 9, 2005

Does not require preheating

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

is there a freedom and liberty button a la rock n stone from DRG?

There's an emote button for brohugs and highfives to share in the glow of nukes and napalm

But yes there needs to be a LIBERTY button

JonBolds
Feb 6, 2015


What if we hugged in the blazing light of a nuclear blast? :blush:

Sixto Lezcano
Jul 11, 2007



Quickmatched with some cool randos last night who were all about the victory hugs. It was great. We launched the ICBM and then took a minute to celebrate under the gentle glow of the atomic fireball.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Sixto Lezcano posted:

Quickmatched with some cool randos last night who were all about the victory hugs. It was great. We launched the ICBM and then took a minute to celebrate under the gentle glow of the atomic fireball.

It's really fun when you matchmake into a group who all knows exactly what to do without needing any communication other than some pings and celebratory hugs.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
So that patch note that the civilian extract was made easier?

That was a goddamn lie.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

So that patch note that the civilian extract was made easier?

That was a goddamn lie.

definitely is not a lie

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through

JonBolds posted:

What if we hugged in the blazing light of a nuclear blast? :blush:

Sorry but I saw a loading text that said permits are required before engaging in any act that might result in a child

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
Wonder if the Cyborgs will start showing up if the Automatons win the Galactic War as their goal is to free them from Super Earth.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

Piell posted:

definitely is not a lie

The 12 dropships arriving at the start of the helldive mission begs to differ, there was never less than 12 dropships in the air at any one time.

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...

Bandire posted:

I'm all for playing around and not just using the meta, but all four players needing to use gun or strategem for it to be "strong" probably means its not very strong.

I'm just offering it as a fun and different option.
The arc gun is weird and powerful up to a certain point and running a full crew of them is a unique experience - no other gun quite force multiplies itself with infinite ammo and decent AOE clear. By itself it fails vs hulks and chargers but with 3-4 of them it becomes hilariously efficient.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

well, you're on the hardest difficulty, what did you expect?

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

ZeusCannon posted:

My favorite has been "Are you aware there are tips on the loading screens?"

"Friendly fire isn't" is my favorite

Cyber Punk 90210
Jan 7, 2004

The War Has Changed

Tom Tucker posted:

Best tip I've gotten so far has been "Remember: Freedom!"

I got "Don't drink and drive" which I appreciated

Bandire
Jul 12, 2002

a rabid potato

DarkDobe posted:

I'm just offering it as a fun and different option.
The arc gun is weird and powerful up to a certain point and running a full crew of them is a unique experience - no other gun quite force multiplies itself with infinite ammo and decent AOE clear. By itself it fails vs hulks and chargers but with 3-4 of them it becomes hilariously efficient.

For sure. It does sound like a fun option, and not everyone wants to min/max speedrun through all the available content. One of my buddies joined a little late and is resource constrained on the common samples, so we'll probably try a lot of weird poo poo on lower difficulties to farm them.

sushibandit
Feb 12, 2009

Well obviously the patchnotes were indicating that they made the mission easier for the automatons because too many helldivers were succeeding and we're supposed to lose, or something.

My group has been pretty consistently clearing those missions on suicidal, and I can't say as I've noticed a difference since the patch.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
One of the most satisfying ways to kill a charger is to strip its armor off the leg with a rocket when it charges you and then magdump from the knight into the exposed leg while diving.

Its not ammo efficient or Meta but its satisfying

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


ZeusCannon posted:

One of the most satisfying ways to kill a charger is to strip its armor off the leg with a rocket when it charges you and then magdump from the knight into the exposed leg while diving.

Its not ammo efficient or Meta but its satisfying

I personally like getting it's attention off a friend, tossing a rail strike, and seeing if I timed it right by standing still and getting the charter to stop sliding right at my feet.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

MonsterEnvy posted:

Wonder if the Cyborgs will start showing up if the Automatons win the Galactic War as their goal is to free them from Super Earth.

I could see the automatons being prepped to win, and they way overtuned it with the scientist escort missions being Hell On (not) Earth

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
My very first mission was the base-level OG Automaton defend mission, solo. That was a very appropriate greeting to the world of Helldivers.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

It was my first automaton mission and I joined it in progress. Just a bunch of explosions, bullets, death, rockets, and chainsaws with red-eyed robots marching towards whoever was still alive

It ruled

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Love loading into a scientist rescue mission to see that all 3 of the other divers are bringing cluster bombs to ensure we end with a net gain of like 100 requisition

DeliciousPatriotism
May 26, 2008
I like that the game's lack of floating numbers and coop focus because it makes this game so much more sweat resistant than its peers. It's so much about "does it feel good? then use it!"

thalweg
Aug 26, 2019

ZeusCannon posted:

Recoilless being able to kill a bile titan in one shot and strip armor off a charger in one go makes it viable in my mind but the railgun is absolutely more versatile since it doesn't need a backpack slot.

how do you one shot a titan with RR? I've been hitting them in the face / glowy underbelly and they dont die in one hit

thalweg
Aug 26, 2019

this game def needs loadout slots tho

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
If you're joining in on a mission in progress I'd really appreciate it if the game would tell you what type of mission you're going into. Saw everyone else has a bunch of turrets so figured it was a scientist rescue or defense and brought my loadout for that and it was an ICBM mission

apostateCourier
Oct 9, 2012


thalweg posted:

how do you one shot a titan with RR? I've been hitting them in the face / glowy underbelly and they dont die in one hit

Shoot it in its open mouth from the front, you're aiming for the back of the throat.

Bandire
Jul 12, 2002

a rabid potato

edit: /\/\/\ good to know!

thalweg posted:

how do you one shot a titan with RR? I've been hitting them in the face / glowy underbelly and they dont die in one hit

this game def needs loadout slots tho

I'm not sure anything will one shot a full health Bile Titan. Pretty sure even the Spear needs some more chip damage to finish it off.

And yeah, pre-saved loadout slots please. Requisition has a cap at 50k, so I'm just spending it on stuff I don't really use. That has the effect of cluttering up the loadout screen with a million nearly identical icons I have to sift through every time.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

DeliciousPatriotism posted:

I like that the game's lack of floating numbers and coop focus because it makes this game so much more sweat resistant than its peers. It's so much about "does it feel good? then use it!"

The worst design trend right now is those loving floating numbers.

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

is there a freedom and liberty button a la rock n stone from DRG?

yeah, hold control and hit up right down down down

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider
Breaker is strong but god drat does it burn through ammo so loving fast. Feels like you need something like the Stalwart to offset that. Breaker + rail gun and I'm going for my SMG way too often.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Bandire posted:

edit: /\/\/\ good to know!

I'm not sure anything will one shot a full health Bile Titan. Pretty sure even the Spear needs some more chip damage to finish it off.

Nah, if your missile hits it right in the face at the right angle you can one shot it. I've done it.

It's not something i'd rely on though, always good to have some railguns or railstrikes handy. Your best chance is to be directly in front of it and at least 75m away.

Fishstick
Jul 9, 2005

Does not require preheating
Did helldivers 1 ever have the factions combined on a map? Like bugs and bots together?

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
"If an enemy attempts to engage you diplomatically, SHOOT THEM! Don't fall for their lies!" :stare:

Best tip I've seen so far

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

Alright, I do have a stratagem/weapon that sucks:

The ballistic shield.

At face value, it does what it says on the tin - you hold it and it reduces the damage you take from ranged fire (and maybe melee damage? I haven't tried it against bugs because it's better to just murder them en masse at range instead of letting them get close enough to hit you).

However - because it is a held object, the code for holding the shield is the same as the code for holding the SSSD or other objects - in other words, when you get physics'd/ragdolled, you will drop the shield.

Also because it is a held object, that means if you want to use a primary while holding it up you must take an SMG. No Breakers or Liberators for you, unless you want to be forced into using your pistol.

At first, it seems like a really great thing to take against the bots given the amount of firepower they put downrange. But it scales very poorly with ascending difficulty against the bots, because at higher difficulties, there are greater numbers of bots that shoot rockets. If you've ever had the pleasure of fighting bots with rockets, then you know that any rocket hit will ragdoll you - which on top of sending you flying, also forces you to drop the shield (if you have it in hand).

Finally.- it takes up a backpack slot. There are a lot of competitive options for backpack slot, including the alarmingly more effective shield generator (which doesn't take up any of your hands to use, is always on when it can be, and doesn't get dropped whenever you get sent flying).

That's a pretty safe thing to call garbage, imo.

LuiCypher fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Feb 21, 2024

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Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
I do wonder who the heck is setting up those illegal broadcasts on bug worlds.

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