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Bumhead posted:The Plasma Rifle might as well be called the Panic Rifle for me. Absolutely right. It's the best weapon to have for close-combat ambushes, at least the ones that involve hitscanners where the extra delay in firing the BFG or super shotty is gonna cost you more health. Also since I accidentally page-sniped, check this out: The Kins posted:Excellent. A developer is in the Youtube replies threatening that the full version will solve "all the gameplay issues" and be more than just an interesting fragment of Brazillian gamedev history. We'll see.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2446550/STAR_WARS_Battlefront_Classic_Collection/ Thread relevant? Aspyr doing it and it's out in 3 weeks? Mad. That Tomb Raider collection they did is rad though.
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I wonder what that'll do that they haven't already done in the last couple years? Or that hasn't been done with mods wrt the PC version?
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oops hopdang I posted my gunchat in the wadthread CHAINGUN CHAT I'm never lackin, always double tappin. Often alternating between mouse and left pinky CTRL to fire. Imps shotgunners caco/PEs skellys all get chained. I think Projectile Hell had the chaingun arachnotrons, no thanks to those guys! I pistol as much as I can if they give you a shotgun but few early shells. Some maps I never get to use chaingun, then find I have 400 bullets at the end to throw at a cyberdemon or w/e Masterminds are boring ho hum unless they're not (ie open space/ no BFG), then they're awful. I do like plasmaing her stupid foot when she can't negotiate a corner. I love the PWARNG sound. Vision has never really been an issue for me? I never feel cooler than when I know exactly how many seconds I should hold fire down to kill something and it dies on the last plasma bolt. Like pumping gas to the flat dollar amount. Eat my Blue I think I'd like a big fuckoff map where you ONLY have your trusty plasma rifle, ALIEN style dark vent creeping conservation of cells etc. Maybe a souped up rocket launcher at the very end for the Boss One thing I've done lately is when playing freelook is I will set it back to normal for a tough BFG section, as looking freely seems to completely gently caress that gun up. RE: alt-fire, I remember really liking the super shotgun in the last version of BROODAL DOOMB I played. The single barrel fire came in handy, like 2 shells 2 imp on either side of the screen real quick. I also appreciated having a railgun. Tearing around, lining up caco clusters and taking em all out with one sl00g is super satisfying. Brolander fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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Me, whispering a little too loudly: I think this guy likes the plasma gun a little too much
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 18:37 |
(Me whispering to date while watching Doom when Doom first shows up) "That's Doom"
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 19:53 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:Me, whispering a little too loudly: I think this guy likes the plasma gun a little too much It's a good gun, Milo and POTUS
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:(Me whispering to date while watching Doom when Doom first shows up) "That's Doom" Doom looks into the camera lens and directly towards you. He says "I am Doom". Tom Cruise then walks up to him with a case. "What's in there?" asks Doom. "Doom" replies Cruise. "Doomsday" by MF DOOM begins playing as the credits roll
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 20:57 |
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The Kins posted:In other news, a friendly PSA from your local indie game publisher: I'm not sure if there's anything left I can buy. Guess we'll find out this weekend! wait no I don't own Iron Lung yet.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 21:03 |
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Brolander posted:It's a good gun, Milo and POTUS I was an early defender of the plasma gun! bbcisdabomb posted:I'm not sure if there's anything left I can buy. Guess we'll find out this weekend! I really am just kind of in a doldrums between stuff I already got and stuff I want but isn't out yet.
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Brolander posted:One thing I've done lately is when playing freelook is I will set it back to normal for a tough BFG section, as looking freely seems to completely gently caress that gun up. Freelook was a giant issue for multiplayer when the first source ports were made. Initially features like this were shoved in with absolutely no consideration of how it changed gameplay. Turns out the being able to shoot the BFG ball & rockets at players feet massively changed the balance. Don’t most multiplayer ports force the BFG to be completely horizontal; IE you can’t change the vertical angle of the shot?
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Convex posted:Doom looks into the camera lens and directly towards you. He says "I am Doom". Tom Cruise then walks up to him with a case. "What's in there?" asks Doom. "Doom" replies Cruise. "Doomsday" by MF DOOM begins playing as the credits roll Doom
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Convex posted:Doom looks into the camera lens and directly towards you. He says "I am Doom". Tom Cruise then walks up to him with a case. "What's in there?" asks Doom. "Doom" replies Cruise. "Doomsday" by MF DOOM begins playing as the credits roll A scattering of nerds stick around for the expected post credit screen. The cinema goes dark again. Camera slowly pans across a graveyard, a low mist hanging just above the dirt. A crypt emerges into view. The camera pans through the crypt before arriving at a single, open grave. Focusing through the mist, we see 2 sticks of dynamite and a pitch fork. A voice booms through the speakers. " I live.. agaaaaain" "OH MY GOD", screams one of the nerds, pointing. "THAT'S JOHN BLOOD!"
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Bumhead posted:A scattering of nerds stick around for the expected post credit screen. The boys are back in town skeewhoa.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoCZ07hwoZ4
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david_a posted:Freelook was a giant issue for multiplayer when the first source ports were made. Initially features like this were shoved in with absolutely no consideration of how it changed gameplay. Turns out the being able to shoot the BFG ball & rockets at players feet massively changed the balance. I’d believe that if it’s true. This reminds me of an issue I mentioned on the Eviternity discord where Eviternity II’s cracked sky effect with multiple skyboxes won’t render properly in DSDA-Doom’s hardware renderer. It turns out that’s only an issue when mouselook is enabled, as the renderer changes its behavior when you can arbitrarily change where you look vertically. All of which makes me increasingly convinced that the no-mouselook-in-Doom people may have been right all along.
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# ? Feb 21, 2024 23:39 |
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I've never felt the need for mouselook, and it definitely looks better I think.
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me booting up the steam deck after work
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Milo and POTUS posted:I was an early defender of the plasma gun! It's cool just maybe thought you were implying I suck the plasma gun off which is definitely not my bag baby, I swear to god baby it's not :austin: In Training posted:I've never felt the need for mouselook, and it definitely looks better I think. These days I'm not using it, think I switched back with Sigil 2 so as to not cheat the shooty buttons. Those wads leads to a funny kind of running where you stare parallel at the wall checking for Evil Eye Gaps, I had to make myself stop doing it once I moved on to a new mapset buuut otoh it's so nice being able to meaningfully lead rockets/plasma where something is going to be, or where you guess it will. It sort of happens anyway sometimes with autoaim but I like the control
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My "I don't regularly perform fellatio on the plasma gun from id software's 1993 masterpiece Doom" T-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt.
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Deakul posted:I wonder what that'll do that they haven't already done in the last couple years? Or that hasn't been done with mods wrt the PC version? Outside of that? Gamepad support on PC, splitscreen play and presumably better Steam Deck support.
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I cannot play Doom without vlook. Like, psychologically. There is something about the way it changes the relationship between mouse movements and camera movements that causes my brain to short-circuit. I swear to God I gave it an honest try for Heartland and it was not happening. Could not finish the WAD.
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Yeah, for me mouselook is a QOL improvement like high resolution and fps and all that. I know the game didn't originally have it but I don't care, it makes me enjoy it more.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:I cannot play Doom without vlook. Like, psychologically. There is something about the way it changes the relationship between mouse movements and camera movements that causes my brain to short-circuit. yeah my brain has been trained that when the mouse moves in up/down directions, the camera is supposed to move in those directions, and when it doesn't do that in doom my brain is like what is happening
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That's why the truly correct way to play Doom is where mouse movement on the Y-axis moves you forward and backward
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Volte posted:That's why the truly correct way to play Doom is where mouse movement on the Y-axis moves you forward and backward do you an infinite mousepad
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I just play doom with keyboard only, constantly unable to finely aim at what Im pointing at.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:I cannot play Doom without vlook. Like, psychologically. There is something about the way it changes the relationship between mouse movements and camera movements that causes my brain to short-circuit. Why would you try that for heartland of all wads? That is not one built around restricting vertical look, it's quite explicitly built around verticality. Do you mean something like Memento Mori 2?
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KajiTheMelonMan posted:do you an infinite mousepad *hears a bunch of banging coming from the designated computer room since it's 1993* Don't come in, I'm playing doom!
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I feel like I play better in Doom without vlook. One less dimension to worry about so I can put more focus into movement
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KajiTheMelonMan posted:do you an infinite mousepad
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It's probably because I only started playing FPS's in like, 2008, but I can do Wolf3D without mouselook (though I'd quite prefer to have vertical mouse movement turned off), but once verticality becomes a thing like in Doom I kinda need it. I can and have played without, even keyboard only, but I find it feels very limiting. I think part of it is I don't necessarily trust autoaim, I want my shots to go where I point them, and seeing rockets veer off at something I didn't want to aim at but happens to be closer and just barely in the target lock zone gets me heated.
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# ? Feb 22, 2024 03:39 |
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Using the arrow keys with alt for strafe is still bizarrely natural to me. I'm very indifferent to vlook in doom.
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Jehde posted:Using the arrow keys with alt for strafe is still bizarrely natural to me. I'm very indifferent to vlook in doom. Except holding up, left and alt didn't move me diagonally forwards as somehow left and up cancelled each other out. loving computers, I never got why that happened
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Convex posted:Except holding up, left and alt didn't move me diagonally forwards as somehow left and up cancelled each other out. loving computers, I never got why that happened That happened with some old keyboards not letting you use ALT and more than one key. It should work today with any modern one
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Rocket Pan posted:Why would you try that for heartland of all wads? That is not one built around restricting vertical look, it's quite explicitly built around verticality. Do you mean something like Memento Mori 2? No, it was Heartland, I remember this very specifically. The y-shear had been doing my head in for, I think, similar reasons, and when I came here to whine about it someone helpfully suggested it might be a good opportunity to learn to live without vlook.
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# ? Feb 22, 2024 10:28 |
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Guillermus posted:That happened with some old keyboards not letting you use ALT and more than one key. It should work today with any modern one Strangest thing is that up, right and alt worked just fine. It was only going forward and left that didn't work
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:No, it was Heartland, I remember this very specifically. The y-shear had been doing my head in for, I think, similar reasons, and when I came here to whine about it someone helpfully suggested it might be a good opportunity to learn to live without vlook. To clarify, the thing with Heartland is that is built for the Eternity engine only, so you have to bear the quirks of that source port, like the weird shearing it had with vertical camera movement. It wasn't ideal, but I played it with vertical movement, because I am the same, I played hundreds of hours of Doom with vertical mouse look and now I'm not going to go back to the traditional system.
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I'm the opposite, i cannot abide by vertical mouselook and a lack of autoaim when a zdoom project requires it. It just feels odd and runs counter to my expectations of having to position myself so the autoaim can target and hit turreted enemies etc. Switching back and forth between doom and more modern games doesn't feel unnatural in the slightest.
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