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Can you actually destroy tanks if you shoot the weak spot on the back of the turret with small arms? I always used explosives or railgun but if you can destroy it with small arms too, that's surprising.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:10 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 09:58 |
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I just bail and don't try to kill tanks because they're boring and unfun to fight. You can hit the vents with an AMR though and it seems to do things.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:11 |
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jokes posted:I definitely think that armor penetration should be expanded. Like, it seems they want to put 3 classes of armor Light/Medium/Heavy and classify parts of enemies at those armor levels, they should flatten the curve so that a light AP weapon can do something. And the DMR really should be medium AP. There also seems to be some element of damage reduction for armour that get penetrated, but presumably not fully. To use the Brood Commander* as an example again, I've shot quite a few of them now with the MG-43 and Stalwart, and the Stalwart takes like 3x or 4x as long to take a commander's head off compared to the MG-43, and the Stalwart certainly does not do 1/3rd or 1/4th the raw DPS of the MG-43. Also, while I have to check this one again because it's been a while since I tried the regular Liberator for this, it feels like the AP Liberator kills the Brood Commander to the head in less bullets compared to the regular Liberator, despite doing less damage per shot. *I hate Brood Commanders
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:12 |
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OGS-Remix posted:Can you actually destroy tanks if you shoot the weak spot on the back of the turret with small arms? I always used explosives or railgun but if you can destroy it with small arms too, that's surprising. Not sure about actual small arms but AC shots or incredibly lucky Eagle airstrike hits will to the back of the turret will take it out
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:12 |
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Im sure everyone knows but i did confirm the eye of sauron can be destroyed with the orbital laser
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:13 |
slicing up eyeballs posted:my experience with the tesla tower was that it was a revolutionary tool for dealing with bot hordes followed by the realization that it's a giant bug zapper for fellow helldivers, they can't stay away. I love throwing out lil comments even when nobody else is using voice chat - they can still hear me because people will react or use the in game chirp - and no matter how hard I telegraph the tesla tower and how to stay safe, it deploys and someone gets zapped lol On a(n) (un)lucky chain it can kill someone a Looong way away from the tower.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:13 |
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When I learned you can change the ROF on the MG, I learned that actually it is the most powerful weapon in the game.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:15 |
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I think armor pen needs to be upped for everything except chargers, tanks, hulks, etc. heavy armor should not be easily defeated and the fact that just shooting a tank with small arms does nothing is great. Like a Barret .50 does not do poo poo against a real tank and the AMR should not do anything to the tank in this. the laser cannon absolutely should do damage to heavy armor I agree with your general sentiment but I just don't think medium armor is a big enough threat to make it worth prioritizing. If an AMR was meant to shred devastators, cool but at the same time everything can do that. You can just shoot them in the face so it's not nearly as important as being able to take out hulks and tanks. Imo a full magazine from an AMR should do about the same damage to heavy armor as a railgun shot, so at least it can serve as a less efficient solution than a railgun that can multitask better than a railgun. I feel like that's what would make it worth taking into battle. Fajita Queen posted:The autocannon in this game is such a satisfying weapon to use. It's like an explosive marksman rifle and it has so much fuckin ammo. The only times I feel like I need to switch off it are when I gently caress up and let stuff get really close to me, and then the breaker overwhelms anything fast enough to do that. Yeah the autocannon is amazing. At least against bots. I never use it on bugs. It looks and sounds awesome and it can dispatch all of the automatons pretty easily, even tanks. Also yeah the ammo is super generous. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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The AMR can very easily take out hulks if you shoot them in their behind. It just sucks that you have to use the gigantic sniper rifle that shoots explosive bullets like it's a DMR.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:16 |
jokes posted:When I learned you can change the ROF on the MG, I learned that actually it is the most powerful weapon in the game. What
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:16 |
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jokes posted:When I learned you can change the ROF on the MG, I learned that actually it is the most powerful weapon in the game. It chews through ammo so fuckin fast though
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:18 |
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Yeah it's definitely an ammo conservation question rather than anything else but it'll gently caress up a charger at max ROF.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:19 |
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Bad Munki posted:What If you hold reload, some weapons have a sub menu with options you can change like ROF and scopes
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:19 |
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veni veni veni posted:Yeah the autocannon is amazing. At least against bots. I never use it on bugs. It looks and sounds awesome and it can dispatch all of the automatons pretty easily, even tanks. Also yeah the ammo is super generous. It feels amazing against bugs too, takes out any medium bugs smaller than a charger in 2-3 shots at most, with some splash to clear up the small stuff around it. It oneshots hunters and twoshots stalkers. Just be careful of friendly fire, especially on yourself.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:20 |
hiddenriverninja posted:If you hold reload, some weapons have a sub menu with options you can change like ROF and scopes Holy poo poo, thank you!
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:22 |
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hiddenriverninja posted:If you hold reload, some weapons have a sub menu with options you can change like ROF and scopes what the gently caress
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:23 |
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Yeah if I'm using a stratagem slot on a weapon then it needs to be able to deal with heavy armour because nothing else in the game can do that. If we had a primary that could chip away at heavy armour I might reconsider but right now I don't feel like I have any other options.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:23 |
Kazinsal posted:what the gently caress It's how you overcharge the railgun. You have to set it from safe to unsafe on that menu
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:24 |
Kazinsal posted:what the gently caress You and me both, friend
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:27 |
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Kazinsal posted:what the gently caress
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:31 |
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CainFortea posted:Did you try it on bots cause it's far better on bots than it is on bugs.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:32 |
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I just had my first little poo poo murder me on the ramp of the dropship at the end.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:37 |
It was accidental but last night me and a friend were wrapping up evac, I got slammed at the very end as the ship was coming down, buddy called a pod for me, and then immediately boarded the pelican. Climbed out of my pod as the thing flew off. Son of a bitch. I did attempt to aim for the pelican with my hellpod, but unfortunately it passes through. Was really hoping I could ruin his day, too.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:41 |
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I'm not high enough to unlock the autocannon but I looted one and for some reason I was completely unable to reload it myself. I know it's supposed to be faster if someone else helps you reload but I thought you could kinda sorta do it on your own. Anyway I got to shoot it three times and then couldn't ever shoot again.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:45 |
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I swear automatons purposely target the evac ramp because the amount of times I get thrown off it by a shockwave from a blast in their missions is way too frequent.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:45 |
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bird food bathtub posted:I'm not high enough to unlock the autocannon but I looted one and for some reason I was completely unable to reload it myself. I know it's supposed to be faster if someone else helps you reload but I thought you could kinda sorta do it on your own. Anyway I got to shoot it three times and then couldn't ever shoot again. you have to have the backpack to reload it
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:46 |
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After fighting noting but bots for like the last 15+ ingame hours up to impossible, I jumped into extreme level bug mission and proceeded to get wrecked because fighting them is nothing like the bots. I hope the two unrevealed factions are just as different from each other but it seems hard to imagine.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:47 |
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bird food bathtub posted:I'm not high enough to unlock the autocannon but I looted one and for some reason I was completely unable to reload it myself. I know it's supposed to be faster if someone else helps you reload but I thought you could kinda sorta do it on your own. Anyway I got to shoot it three times and then couldn't ever shoot again.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:47 |
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If i don't see red on my reticule when I'm shooting something, am I doing no damage? Not seeing the ricochet symbol either.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:48 |
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Insert name here posted:Did you grab the ammo backpack for it too? You need that due to, you know, it having all the ammo for the Autocannon. Ah. Nope, didn't know you needed the backpack yourself to do the loading. Not really any time to get that sort of explanation when I'm pretty sure the AC was on some dead sucker's body and I grabbed it on the run with a horde of bugs behind me. Just grabbed it, blasted away a few times, then couldn't do anything else with it. Some day I'll unlock it and see if it's as cool as people say. Right now I'm saving up and looking forward to the arc rifle. No I don't care if people say it sucks and it's not the min/max mathematically ideal weapon. I really enjoyed blasting away at a horde of bugs with it.
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Bad Munki posted:I did attempt to aim for the pelican with my hellpod, but unfortunately it passes through. Was really hoping I could ruin his day, too. I had a pubbie hit the dropship with their hellpod once, it killed me inside and bugged it so another player couldn't board to evac, we ended up losing something like 40 samples because of it.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:56 |
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Fajita Queen posted:It feels amazing against bugs too, takes out any medium bugs smaller than a charger in 2-3 shots at most, with some splash to clear up the small stuff around it. It oneshots hunters and twoshots stalkers. Just be careful of friendly fire, especially on yourself. Yeah this is why I don't use it on bugs. It's not that it doesn't work it's just kind of a suicide machine and there's plenty of other stuff that is good for bugs.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:04 |
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:I had a pubbie hit the dropship with their hellpod once, it killed me inside and bugged it so another player couldn't board to evac, we ended up losing something like 40 samples because of it. Yup. do not drop your hellpod on the dropship right now. It can even cause the game to crash for everyone. We lost a whole missions worth of stuff the other night from the same thing.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:06 |
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jokes posted:The AMR can very easily take out hulks if you shoot them in their behind. It just sucks that you have to use the gigantic sniper rifle that shoots explosive bullets like it's a DMR.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:08 |
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Insert name here posted:There's definitely more to armour pen than Light/Medium/(presumably) Heavy, based on my anecdotal experience. For example the Breaker Spray & Pray will bounce off a Brood Commander's head, yet all the other "Light" penetration primaries (and secondaries) will penetrate their head just fine. Same with the AMR versus Striders, Hulk heads, and the heat vent weakpoints on tanks and turrets, as other "Med" penetration weapons do not damage those. With many weapons it feels a lot faster to kill a a couple of the bug types by shooting off their two front legs instead of shooting them in the head
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:09 |
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Owl Inspector posted:With many weapons it feels a lot faster to kill a a couple of the bug types by shooting off their two front legs instead of shooting them in the head
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:17 |
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can you supply yourself with the supply pack? that's my question.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:20 |
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hey mom its 420 posted:can you supply yourself with the supply pack? that's my question. You can, by default it’s 5 on the keyboard.
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# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:21 |
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hey mom its 420 posted:can you supply yourself with the supply pack? that's my question. Yeah this is kind of the whole thing with the grenade launcher. It's got low ammo so bring a supply pack and never run out of grenades.
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# ? May 25, 2024 09:58 |
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jokes posted:Yeah it's definitely an ammo conservation question rather than anything else but it'll gently caress up a charger at max ROF. The breaker only needs like 5-6 hits into the leg and the charger goes down, bonus points for being a primary weapon Away all Goats posted:After fighting noting but bots for like the last 15+ ingame hours up to impossible, I jumped into extreme level bug mission and proceeded to get wrecked because fighting them is nothing like the bots. I hope the two unrevealed factions are just as different from each other but it seems hard to imagine. Illuminates are sort of like the starcraft protoss
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