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I remember when I was doing my Russia research pre lawsuit, I found that the head of Sberbanks wife had registered Sba LLC out of Florida like a decade ago and never got around to checking if it was supposed to be a sberbank front.
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Charliegrs posted:Well I'm sure the Russians would like Trump to win the election. I don't think Trump going bankrupt would necessarily mean he loses but it certainly doesn't help his chances of winning. I'm sure they'd prefer for him to win, but House Republicans have been doing a pretty good job of stopping Ukraine aid and spreading general political chaos, even under a Dem president. Ironically, Trump has done such a good job of taking over the party that he's rendered himself replaceable. If he starts looking too much like a sinking ship or becomes too much of a pain in the rear end to bail out, they can just start backing someone else. It's too late to pick a new horse to back in the presidential race (unless Trump accidentally trips and falls onto a syringe full of plutonium someone carelessly left around), but as long as the GOP holds one house of Congress they can pretty much block any Ukraine aid.
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Main Paineframe posted:Ironically, Trump has done such a good job of taking over the party that he's rendered himself replaceable. If he starts looking too much like a sinking ship or becomes too much of a pain in the rear end to bail out, they can just start backing someone else. Maybe to Russia, but he's not going to go away (while alive) so long as he controls all the GOP voters, and I don't think Russian influence is the only reason they keep voting for him quote:It's too late to pick a new horse to back in the presidential race (unless Trump accidentally trips and falls onto a syringe full of plutonium someone carelessly left around), but as long as the GOP holds one house of Congress they can pretty much block any Ukraine aid. Kinda feel like Russia assassinating a former US president would trigger WW3 even if was the guy everybody hates
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So this is pretty wild. In the GA case, a criminal defense investigator who did some digging for Sadow and Litle on behalf of the defense just filed to have all the cellphone location data for Wade from 2021 filed into evidence. Apparently the investigator sent a request to AT&T's subpoena department and they gave him everything they had for 2021 in a zip file(kind of odd how they complied so broadly to me). Takeaways I'm seeing: 1.) Seems to be more implied than direct evidence, they're trying to use "heatmaps" and the times of text and calls near Hapeville from Wade to say there was romance going on because, you know, lawyers totally don't work well into 3 am at multiple locations during a big case. 2.) It doesn't look like they submitted all of this with a heads up to the court or anyone else, so I can't imagine this will go over well. 3.) I personally think they haven't given up on just kicking up enough dirt that some of the media will pick up and sensationalize to try to make finding an untainted jury pool difficult. 4.) Looks pretty sketchy to me that they're trying to submit into the official record domething detailing where Wade frequents the most after so many threats and intimidation relating to this case. See: Fani's dad's testimony about all the people hanging out of her house and vandalizing it with racist threats. I can't imagine this will go over well with McAfee. If he entertains this at all after the circus last week, it won't be a good look.
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That's hosed up, man. Putting a guy's location tracker into evidence. Nah, that won't happen.
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mdemone posted:That's hosed up, man. Putting a guy's location tracker into evidence. Nah, that won't happen. No way it will, and yeah. Agreed. If I was Wade I'd be changing where I go already. I wouldn't even wait as there's a non-zero chance it'll be leaked anyways. Just really drives home how they really do have nothing and know it. Just more motions filed in the hope it's picked up by media outlets to stir controversy and to intimidate people in these cases' orbit.
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haveblue posted:Maybe to Russia, but he's not going to go away (while alive) so long as he controls all the GOP voters, and I don't think Russian influence is the only reason they keep voting for him Yeah, I'm not saying Russia's going to make him go away - just that if his prospects start looking bad or not worth the trouble, then they won't go through fire and water for him. If he's able to win despite being half a billion bucks in debt, then they'll happily spend the equivalent of a couple thousand bucks worth of Facebook ads on his campaign. If not, they'll pour that money into House swing districts instead so that they can maintain political influence even when he loses. The base won't support a direct competitor to Trump as long as Trump is in the race, and a few rich diehard cultists like Lindell might very well throw a bunch of money at him, but the various wealthy interests backing him for their own interests aren't necessarily going to feel obligated to continue bailing him out no matter how deep a hole he digs himself into. Was being facetious with the plutonium joke, but it's probably not super difficult to make the death of a 77-year-old man with a super unhealthy lifestyle look like an accident. I don't honestly think Russia would go through the trouble of actually assassinating him, rather than just focusing their influence efforts on other offices in 2024. From a "spreading chaos in the American political system" perspective, a Trump loss does that almost as a Trump win. And from a "establishing sufficient influence in US politics to block anti-Russia measures" perspective, Russia has been able to establish itself pretty well among the MAGA members of Congress.
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Counted posted:So this is pretty wild. In the GA case, a criminal defense investigator who did some digging for Sadow and Litle on behalf of the defense just filed to have all the cellphone location data for Wade from 2021 filed into evidence. Apparently the investigator sent a request to AT&T's subpoena department and they gave him everything they had for 2021 in a zip file(kind of odd how they complied so broadly to me). I mean, that's not great. I'm kinda surprised that was available without a warrant. Wade and willis may also have been surprised here. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I mean, that's not great. I'm kinda surprised that was available without a warrant. Wade and willis may also have been surprised here. One note from the ajc reporting on this. 'The Hapeville home is less than two miles from Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport but Mittelsatdt said his analysis had eliminated the possibility that the phone was in the airport.' I trust a Trump camp legal analyst about as far as I can throw them. As with everything that has come out in the Willis stuff, the accusations from the Trump camp are never going to get stronger than they are right now, and the strength of their argument right now boils down to 'we have his phone showing up in an urban area matching a coworker in the evening'
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The only thing TRump seems to care about is the image he projects: that of a bigly billionaire that is above the petty poo poo us mere mortals have to deal with. Except the legal system has him facing a reckoning. Either he has the cash/liquid assets to cover the fines for his appeals - or he don't. I do not think he has any way of raising this money. If/when that reality becomes unassailable fact, the media - biased or not - will report that TRump is broke. Then, he still has to pay. Somehow. I think disgorgement will vaporize what's left of TRump Org. It's been fairly well established that TRump is a toxic, malignant narcissist. But I have not been able to find online, what happens to such people when the inevitable concrete cell of reality closes in, and becomes utterly impossible to ignore. I don't mean jail. I don't think he'll live long enough to see the inside of a cell.
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Clinically? Generally they'll retreat into whatever environment is most nurturing/protective of whatever is left of their ego, and lash out at anyone they can to reestablish some sense of orientation/control. It's probably what's happening as he fully embraces christian nationalism, it's just occurring in the context of a huge election. MAL is gonna turn into the last days of Hitler's bunker. FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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PainterofCrap posted:The only thing TRump seems to care about is the image he projects: that of a bigly billionaire that is above the petty poo poo us mere mortals have to deal with. Well Hitler killed his dog then shot himself, so...
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I mean, that's not great. I'm kinda surprised that was available without a warrant. Wade and willis may also have been surprised here. It looks like the kind of vague circumstantial evidence they tried to pass off during cross last week. I'm not sure this will change anything for Fani and Wade here. These few things stand out to me: Filing posted:...[records] revealed a minimum of 35 occasions when Mr. Wade’s phone connected for an extended period to either one of those towers in closest proximity to the Dogwood address" They don't even place him anywhere specific but are trying to refer to these as "occasions" like they are actual smoking guns. A cellphone tower still isn't an address. It doesn't contradict Wade saying he goes to restaurants and the like in the area. Filing posted:Because of the limitations in analyzing the sheer volume of data and preparing the report, I was directed to conduct a deeper analysis on two specific dates: September 11-12, 2021 (before | understand Mr. Wade washired)and November 29-30, 2021 They describe 35 "occasions" earlier but have only analyzed two of them relating to a specific area. Filing posted:Specifically, on September 11, 2021, Mr. Wade's phone left the Doraville area and arrived within the geofence located on the Dogwood address at 10:45 P-M. The phone remained there until September 12 at 3:28 AM. at which time the phone traveled directly to towers located in East Cobb consistent with his routine pinging at his residence in that area. The phone arrived in East Cobb at approximately 4:05 AM. and records demonstrate he sent a text at 4:20 A.M. to Ms. Willis. Him being there late twice isn't evidence of perjury at all. He testified he was there "less than ten" times and went there infrequently but was still in the area on lunch or business. I don't see any of this disproving that from what's available, unless this investigator is holding more than 10 incidents specifically at her address closer to his chest, in which case why not just include that in the filing since hearings are already over? I'm strongly leaning towards this being a nothingburger as far as a smoking gun for an earlier relationship goes.
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davecrazy posted:Well Hitler killed his dog then shot himself, so... Well, that sounds like Giuliani should probably steer clear of MAL then.
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$464,576,230.62 Just in case anyone is curious.
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PainterofCrap posted:It's been fairly well established that TRump is a toxic, malignant narcissist. But I have not been able to find online, what happens to such people when the inevitable concrete cell of reality closes in, and becomes utterly impossible to ignore. Those concept albums never have clear endings. I'd ask Roger Waters, but he worked himself into being pro-Russia.
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Caros posted:$464,576,230.62 Is this the total amount he has to pay to file an appeal? Or is it this plus 10%? Either way: 
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BORN TO GRIFT REAL ESTATE IS A gently caress lock em up 2024 I am indictment man 464,576,230.62 PENALTY DOLLARS
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Caros posted:$464,576,230.62 Man, I hate searching my couch for spare change like that.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Man, I hate searching my couch for spare change like that. I’d be glad to take that ratty old couch full of millions off your hands
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Caros posted:$464,576,230.62 Someone needs to post a website with a rolling counter like the national debt clock or something. Also, Hitler's bunker would be a fine ending for Trump.
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Dicty Bojangles posted:I’d be glad to take that ratty old couch full of millions off your hands Thanks, but I just got an answer for my craigslist add. The guy is even willing to give me ten bucks for it! I just need to deliver it.
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Ynglaur posted:Also, Hitler's bunker would be a fine ending for Trump. It won’t happen unless he loses the election. Until the election is over that’s the way out. These judgements stop mattering if he successfully becomes an autocrat. He loses(God willing), election night could be extremely wild.
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haveblue posted:BORN TO GRIFT 
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haveblue posted:BORN TO GRIFT
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Bar Ran Dun posted:He loses(God willing), election night could be extremely wild. If only it could be election night. I vividly remember 2020 and being on pins and needles for 4 days wondering if we were going full fash or not because of counts and recounts and accusations of fraud and interference. That poo poo was exhausting, gently caress election week.
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BlackIronHeart posted:If only it could be election night. I vividly remember 2020 and being on pins and needles for 4 days wondering if we were going full fash or not because of counts and recounts and accusations of fraud and interference. That poo poo was exhausting, gently caress election week. Yeah I held an election party, everyone went home, and 5(?) days later watching results trickle in, it was called while I was driving and it took all the restraint in me to drive safely to my buddy's house in St Pete, Florida. Cars were driving around honking and we had a picnic by the marina enjoying the wind and seeing a rare coterie of boats without Trump flags bobbing in the water. Obama '08 was much more fun in college.
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Judgment in Trump civil fraud case officially entered at $464 millionquote:A clerk in New York has officially entered a more than $464 million fraud judgment against former President Donald Trump and top executives at his company — an amount that will grow by over $111,000 a day until it's paid.
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Wait wasn't it $364 million against Trump? Not that I'm complaining.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Wait wasn't it $364 million against Trump? Not that I'm complaining. With interest, wasn't it?
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Wait wasn't it $364 million against Trump? Not that I'm complaining. It includes 9% simple interest dating back to 2019
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haveblue posted:BORN TO GRIFT Hahahaha oh my God, beautiful 
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Counted posted:So this is pretty wild. In the GA case, a criminal defense investigator who did some digging for Sadow and Litle on behalf of the defense just filed to have all the cellphone location data for Wade from 2021 filed into evidence. Apparently the investigator sent a request to AT&T's subpoena department and they gave him everything they had for 2021 in a zip file(kind of odd how they complied so broadly to me). So this is interesting. The Stored Communication Act , 18 U.S.C. 2703, creates a statutory requirement for a search warrant in order to obtain contents of communications. The federal legislature came up with this law as a compromise recognizing two things. First, that the government can and will want this evidence in criminal prosecution, and second that there had been (at the time) a real argument that your data held by AT&T and other phone carriers is not personal, not private, and therefore not protected by the constitution. Remember warrants exist to protect constitutional requirements. So if no constitutional protection is implicated, there's no need for a warrant. The legislation created a compromise, by creating (1) a statutory requirement for a search warrant, and (2) waiving jurisdictional requirements for search warrant, so a search warrant from a Boise, ID superior court can be served on a San Francisco tech company. In exchange, (3) AT&T and the other big data companies get immunity from you suing their rear end for turning over your information. It's a crime (18 U.S.C. 2701) to access these records criminally, and it's a civil infraction for the company itself to disclose the contents of communications (18 U.S.C. 2702). There are different rules for "records" as compared to "communications," and generally AT&T can do whatever they want with your "records," like selling your phone's mac address to facebook for marketing purposes. It's also appropriate for AT&T to respond to a subpoena in a civil suit for "records," think like you want to establish who owns the number your wife is texting her booty pics to, you can subpoena those "records," but you absolutely cannot subpoena "communications." Interesting here is I've never seen "call/text history as well as specialized location data" treated as "records" for the purpose of this law. That's what the PI got from AT&T. I can't say I've seen those items treated as "communications" either. Maybe this PI has some case law that I'm not aware of, but I know for sure the government needs a search warrant to get location history for AT&T. I said "at the time" earlier in this post because in the mid-90s this was an open question. The Supreme Court has since ruled that your historic location data is constitutionally protected. It seems pretty wild to me that AT&T would give some random PI this data. But I'll confess that I don't have a lot of experience with civil subpoenas in this context; it may be routine for all I know. Interesting interesting interesting. Edit to put this into context, if this PI can get location history from AT&T by just asking, then so can you, and you can get it about anyone. Want to know where Biden's grand kids go to school? Want to know who Clarence Thomas is cheating on his Nazi wife with? Want to know where Musk is at any given second? Want to find that bully from highschool to put a dead fish in his mailbox? Want to know where your favorite GBS mod is so you can stand outside their bedroom window and watch them sleep? Just ask AT&T what their number is and where that phone is currently located. BigHead fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Feb 24, 2024 |
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Counted posted:So this is pretty wild. In the GA case, a criminal defense investigator who did some digging for Sadow and Litle on behalf of the defense just filed to have all the cellphone location data for Wade from 2021 filed into evidence. Apparently the investigator sent a request to AT&T's subpoena department and they gave him everything they had for 2021 in a zip file(kind of odd how they complied so broadly to me). "see? they went NEAR things! and STUFF! NEAR!!"
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InsertPotPun posted:"10,000 mules" but for an affair. “What is within 40 miles of this celltower? No less than 3 separate Chilis restaurants. Chilis which I need not remind you is home of the ‘2 for $25’ special for date nights”
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InsertPotPun posted:"10,000 mules" but for an affair. It’s been over a decade, and Serial continues to leave a scar on the American psyche.
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Question on seizing Trumps' (45 and sons) poo poo. Trump is leveraged to hell and I know there are a lot of co-interests in a lot of these properties. How are seizures done when you don't know who owns what? I'm basing this off my understanding that in the court case Trump was inflating value or saying there was value in his properties when in reality he had some partner or other interest that co-owner properties. Does the government become top creditor (probably wrong terminology here) and get to take Trump's stuff first before other pre-existing creditors?
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Xiahou Dun posted:It’s been over a decade, and Serial continues to leave a scar on the American psyche. What's this mean?
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Donkringel posted:Question on seizing Trumps' (45 and sons) poo poo. They will start with liquid assets. Then assets owned entirely by Trump, or Trump Org, or Old Post Office LLC or whatever it's called. They'll get a lot from that alone, before getting to the more complicated assets. quote:Does the government become top creditor (probably wrong terminology here) and get to take Trump's stuff first before other pre-existing creditors? Yes.
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Donkringel posted:Question on seizing Trumps' (45 and sons) poo poo. From what I understand: yes, the NY state government is first in line. The shitshow of how they'll extract any net worth out of his properties (I assume that all of them are leveraged to the hilt) may require its own thread when the time comes.
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