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You spend at least one arc of Yggdra Union as a villain; in the normal ending you eventually knock it off, but the ending where you gently caress things up for everyone and start a massive war for no reason is the canon ending that leads into Riviera.
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ImpAtom posted:I am pretty sure the game where you beat up Satan to free humanity from his evil yolk is the one where you're the hero. Satan is one bad egg, huh. Considering that the main character of LoS2 hunted and murdered humans for centuries and also killed his own flesh and blood once, I still think LoS2 is a good fit for the question.
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Einander posted:Really? From what I remember, once you get to chapter 4, the final chapter's plot is basically all the same outside of which recruits you can get. PSP onward does have Ravness and Ozma helping with racial reconciliation/Lodis in Law, but in exchange half the Shamans are dead, so it feels like kind of a wash with regards to a "golden ending." It's been a while since I've actually paid attention to any version of chapter 4 other than Law, though, so it's entirely possible that I'm forgetting things. Law is the only route where Vyce is recruitable and actively helps you.
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Feb 24, 2024 10:02
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Tequila Bob posted:We should also mention Breath of Fire IV - you definitely spend more time playing as the villain in that game, compared to most other JRPGs. Fou Lu did nothing wrong.
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Feb 24, 2024 10:07
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Clarste posted:Fou Lu did nothing wrong. Yuna is definitely the villain in that one, yeah
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Feb 24, 2024 10:18
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GateOfD posted:what are some jrpgs where your actually the bad guy? You could reasonably argue that you play an evil party for most of Tales of Berseria.
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Feb 24, 2024 12:14
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Velvet did a few things wrong.
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Feb 24, 2024 12:27
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Failboattootoot posted:You could reasonably argue that you play an evil party for most of Tales of Berseria. I guess maybe for the first 3 hours or so but after that it becomes an increasingly bigger stretch
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Feb 24, 2024 12:58
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there's that snes jrgp where you alternate between playing the hero and the villain in chapters and the villain can just melt npcs for currency or xp or smth
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Feb 24, 2024 13:06
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Shining Resonance Refrain and Fairy Fencer F Advent Dark Force both have paths where you recruit the villain characters. No one asked for GOOD games where you play the villain...
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Feb 24, 2024 14:28
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Honest Thief posted:there's that snes jrgp where you alternate between playing the hero and the villain in chapters and the villain can just melt npcs for currency or xp or smth Dark Half. It's kinda rough around the edges, but an interesting experience.
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Feb 24, 2024 14:36
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Tequila Bob posted:Satan is one bad egg, huh. The dude spends the majority of the game trying to find a way to kill himself because he hates being forced into that. Really a stretch to say you are playing as the villain instead of 'was a villain in backstory'
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Feb 24, 2024 16:32
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Rascyc posted:Big Fou Lou fan from BoF4 on the playing bad guys part. Too bad it's only for a few sections but I thought it was neat. The antagonists thoroughly tried to piss off Fou Lou in increasingly worse ways throughout the game too, I don’t blame him
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Feb 24, 2024 16:44
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ImpAtom posted:The dude spends the majority of the game trying to find a way to kill himself because he hates being forced into that. Really a stretch to say you are playing as the villain instead of 'was a villain in backstory' Oh, I'd for sure agree that "was a villain in a backstory" is a more accurate description of the hero of LoS2. Just as "will be a villain after the game" is a better description for The Knight of Lodis and DQM: The Dark Prince and MGSV and LoS1. It seems like a pretty rare thing for a JRPG to just straight up let you do villain things in-game. Of all the titles mentioned, only the Ogre Battle series, Soul Nomad, and BoFIV come to mind, and in each of those cases it's up to the player to choose that path.
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GateOfD posted:what are some jrpgs where your actually the bad guy? KOTOR1?
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Feb 24, 2024 17:40
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In The Caligula Effect: Overdose you can join up with the villain team for sections and fight against the main party members.
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Xenoblade 2 endgame: The last four chapters of this game is a straight line made of enclosed rooms, making it really obnoxious where you aggro a bonus boss when you just want to open a loving door.
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Shoutouts to the bad ending of Tales of Xillia 2 that lets you murder the party.
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Phantasium posted:Shoutouts to the bad ending of Tales of Xillia 2 that lets you murder the party. As someone who's played Tales of Xillia 2, I'd debate against any ending where you get to kill the party being the bad one.
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Feb 24, 2024 18:49
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kurohyou opening with tatsuya punching his friends for not wanting to rob a loan shark and then chapter 4 having a sub story where he lectures a teenager on how he shouldn't steal and should get a normal job and make his mom happy is so funny
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Can't believe everyone here is forgetting the game where you play as the greatest villain('s unwilling host), Okage.
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Mr. Locke posted:As someone who's played Tales of Xillia 2, I'd debate against any ending where you get to kill the party being the bad one. Those alternate realities had it coming
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fez_machine posted:I think being evil just isn't a selling point for most people with an RPG, even Tyranny didn't sell and evil routes are far more plentiful in the west yeah but Tyranny was bad
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The Deception series probably counts here.
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Caidin posted:Those alternate realities had it coming If alternate realities count, arguably the Star Ocean 4 protag is the greatest playable war criminal in JRPGs.
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I think being a villain is more about vibes than it is about ethics. For example I'd definitely characterize, say, Edelgard's route in Fire Emblem: Three Houses as "playing as the villain;" the fact that she is (famously) right pales in comparison to the indisputable charges of using dark magic and wearing red.
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nrook posted:I think being a villain is more about vibes than it is about ethics. For example I'd definitely characterize, say, Edelgard's route in Fire Emblem: Three Houses as "playing as the villain;" the fact that she is (famously) right pales in comparison to the indisputable charges of using dark magic and wearing red. Perhaps most Fire Emblem games let you play as the villain since you (usually) work in service of restoring a monarchy...........
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this conversation is rapidly becoming the villain, in that i want to use meteor on it and watch 9999 damage pop out
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The nature of humanity is just that every so often somebody starts Edelgard discourse all over again, even when completely unrelated.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:The nature of humanity is just that every so often somebody starts Edelgard discourse all over again, even when completely unrelated. Humanity is inevitably drawn to Edelgard discourse, causing endless pain and strife, therefore to stop Edelgard discourse existence must end...
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who's Edelgard?
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not much what's edelgard with you
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Reaching a zen state where you realize both sides of that discourse are full of insane people.
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look don’t blame me, it’s a good example. I even specifically tried to define it in a way orthogonal to the normal axis of 3h discourse
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Brief as it was, Live a Live handled the playable villain trope well.
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incredibly funny how chapter 4 of kurohyou is a double whammy of the guy tatsuya killed isn't actually dead and the guy whose spine tatsuya broke didn't actually have his spine broken by tatsuya and he spent all his time in the hospital trying to convince everyone tatsuya was a just and honorable fighter
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tatsuya in opening of kurohyou: *punches his friends because they won't help him rob a loan shark, makes fun of chinese people, seemingly murders a guy* tatsuya in every part of kurohyou after opening: I'm sorry old man. I misunderstood you. Through our battle I have come to understand the trials other people face and respect them more as my equal. Now I need to pump this guy for information... by helping him win at the UFO Catcher
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i love the sub story where he battles his old student council president, who reveals he has been putting on a mask and going out to ruthlessly beat the poo poo out of delinquents so they can't come to school and thus school can be a better place, and tatsuya goes "that poo poo's just wrong... you should stay in school and fight honorably, not from the shadows. there are people who care about you. don't disappoint them!"
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It would ruin the humor of people who should be criminals going out in doing community service, climbing up people's houses and washing their windows for them, stocking shelves, making lunches for construction workers, helping old people across the street, etc but I really want them to just get a Kamen Rider license so you can just be a decent vigilante helping people out from the onset.
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I would pay an absolutely unreasonable amount of money for Like A Dragon: Kamen Rider W. Just set it in Fuuto and you go around having weird sidequests that inevitably end up with someone turning into a goofy monster you beat up, you can unlock different forms and swap them in battle, it can go from gritty and hardboiled to goofy on a whim.
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