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reignonyourparade posted:"Has anyone considered that perhaps the culprit to the pollen based murder is the dryad?" is pretty drat solvable, IMO. I asked because I didn't read the story. It sucked
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I liked* the set's flavor, I thought the cards were evocative, it was a unique set of tropes to pull from, and I felt a little fomo for not caring about the story and just having it spoiled now that I've seen how well the flavor has worked for me *"liked" meaning I thought it was an effective play on classic mystery tropes, though it must be stressed that lionizing pinkertons is not praxis
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A big flaming stink posted:I actually enjoyed the reveal of trostani as the murderer because her reasoning made a ton of sense. "All these fuckers were collaborators to the invading machine body snatchers" is a pretty solid reason to start killing them. Trostani did nothing wrong.
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Slio posted:A return to a new, not terribly well received plane like 2-3 years later (returns have been faster, but that's wildly fast) Was it not well received? It was slightly before I started, but between its prevalence in standard and commander and just cool designs and themes I thought it would've been fairly popular. Maybe I'm just in a bubble of Capenna likers. Plus I never drafted with it and if I don't like a draft environment that colours my general feeling about the set. I haven't liked the drafting in this set and still haven't finished the story and because I haven't liked the drafting I've cared less to read it. Capenna, Kamigawa, and Ixalan are my favourite settings so far. Eldraine is pretty cool too.
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FishFood posted:Yeah, "Detectives Matter" is a fine mechanic in a vacuum, and I think that draft archetype is pretty fun, it just doesn't match up very well with how detectives behave in the fiction the set is trying to emulate. I think I would have preferred for the tribal mechanic to be "rogues" or "citizens" or something to represent suspects and quirky characters, and then have Detectives be a smaller number of cards. Frankly I think murder mystery is a more varied than you're giving it credit for in that respect. Plenty of mystery fiction still just has the lead be... an actual police detective.
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reignonyourparade posted:Frankly I think murder mystery is a more varied than you're giving it credit for in that respect. Plenty of mystery fiction still just has the lead be... an actual police detective. Sure, but that isn't really what was advertised. The set's name is "Murders at Karlov Manor", which is the most Agatha Christie-rear end title I have ever seen; it has explicit tie-ins with Clue; and the new headline character is Wizard Sherlock. I think it's pretty fair to be disappointed that the Detectives we got were Pinkertons and not Father Brown. I do think the individual card designs are pretty evocative, it's just the set as a whole that doesn't really work for me.
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FishFood posted:Sure, but that isn't really what was advertised. The set's name is "Murders at Karlov Manor", which is the most Agatha Christie-rear end title I have ever seen; it has explicit tie-ins with Clue; and the new headline character is Wizard Sherlock. I think it's pretty fair to be disappointed that the Detectives we got were Pinkertons and not Father Brown. the cops are the boros, not the detectives. they even made the new aurelia card a pun on 'above the law'
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I put in some reps with this and it can be competitive but feels very blah. Fable underperforms more often than not. I'm tempted to try out an Orzhov variant, but that would probably be more aggro oriented than this deck wants to be.
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Mat Cauthon posted:I put in some reps with this and it can be competitive but feels very blah. Fable underperforms more often than not. I'm tempted to try out an Orzhov variant, but that would probably be more aggro oriented than this deck wants to be. I swear I saw people side out sorin in the counterspell matchup but keep on with 4 fable. Fable seems to have higher priority than sorin does in a few matchups, at least from what i saw on stream.
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flatluigi posted:the cops are the boros, not the detectives. they even made the new aurelia card a pun on 'above the law' In fairness to the complaint, the non-angel Boros cards in the set--both white/red themselves or just mono-reds and whites that support their style--do have a fair amount of detectives in their creature types. I think that's more just because they don't have 'cop' as a distinct creature type, though, and from what I can tell they tend to gravitate towards 'detective' to describe law enforcement types. I feel like the Karlov manor set really expresses that there's clearly a divide within that 'detective' creature type between the actual investigators and just the cops, though. Like, there's not a hint of the 'investigate' keyword on any of the Boros detectives, and any of the white/red cards that have 'investigate' on them (mainly white) basically only has it as an incidental, on cards like No Witnesses. It's the other color identities that actually do something with investigate and detective support, in Boros all of that's just incidental to the main cause of raw destruction. And if it needs to be said: Boros' strongarm policing is in no way framed as positive in the actual flavor. Like I said before, Nelly literally cannot solve a case either mechanically or conceptually, all she can do is start fights. Aurelia is framed as above the law, and flavor on cards like Demand Answers show that she's being ridiculous in her demands. Boros aren't the people solving the murder mystery, they're the ones making the entire situation way harder than it needs to be.
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Khanstant posted:Was it not well received? It was slightly before I started, but between its prevalence in standard and commander and just cool designs and themes I thought it would've been fairly popular. Maybe I'm just in a bubble of Capenna likers. Plus I never drafted with it and if I don't like a draft environment that colours my general feeling about the set. New Capenna's setting and aesthetic was cool and well-received as far as I know, but the story they told and the story they presented in the cards themselves. They pitched it as a city ruled by devils without angels (but they just might return), but the actual set had the mythic rare angel the story was built around and... four or five angels that were pretty common and seemed to be doing perfectly fine. They introduced a bunch of cool named figures, and then they murdered most of them before you could possibly get attached. (Which is the other reason Karlov Manor shouldn't have been in Capenna: there just aren't enough people we actually know to kill.) Also, my take on MtG's story overall is stolen from a recent Loading Ready Run podcast discussion: if WotC wants the story to be interesting to most people, they need to give it more space. They need to make books, instead of cramming a book's worth of plot points into six short story articles and expecting it to work. They need to actually tell us the cool lore, instead of making an internal lore bible and hoping enough of it gets across in the final set. But they don't want to invest in what they need to publish books again, and they don't want to invest in keeping lore people in the company for longer than six months before they're fired or quit, so the ways MtG explores its lore and setting are going to keep being unsatisfying.
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They could, I dunno, do blocks that are connected by story and mechanical theme but continue to focus on single set draft. Seems like a worthwhile compromise!
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we just had a four set block about the phyrexians
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flatluigi posted:we just had a four set block about the phyrexians But hear me out: Dominaria... Reunited?
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Maybe some sort of extended story uniting the angel/demon storyline with the detective storylinean allowing for the space to develop new characters and plot and then provide some sort of payoff off the complications of the plot, instead of, like, cramming two entire stories into single sets with little to no explanation of those stories in the cards themselves.
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i think detectives not feeling mechanically detective-ly is a valid complaint, especially as a tribe. i also miss the central/eastern european/slavic influences of ravnica, but that's been diminishing with every re-visit of the plane
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Cases are a cool mechanic and I think they did a great job with them. Detectives just feels like a new tribe like Warrior or Merfolk or whatever.
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Cleretic posted:In fairness to the complaint, the non-angel Boros cards in the set--both white/red themselves or just mono-reds and whites that support their style--do have a fair amount of detectives in their creature types. I think that's more just because they don't have 'cop' as a distinct creature type, though, and from what I can tell they tend to gravitate towards 'detective' to describe law enforcement types. In previous visits to Ravnica, the Boros and Azorius creatures that were cops were usually Soldiers.
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If you’re in MC Chicago today I’ve got a meet & greet from 10 - 12, would be great to see some goons! https://x.com/cmdrmechanic/status/1761767536952049909?s=46&t=C4BQ78anj_wCKctGT46Jvg
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Balon posted:If you’re in MC Chicago today I’ve got a meet & greet from 10 - 12, would be great to see some goons!
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The number of people who read MTG books is in the dozens. If they do books for supplementary content then fine, but if it’s going to be story driven the primary story needs to be accessible.
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-1 vote for return to blocks if they are anything like the Phyrexian arc. If you don't like it, then knowing you probably won't like the next X sets too is a drag. The solution to the story problem is easy but also requires investing without an immediate clear profit return, so casino of the coast will not want to do any of that again so long as they are publicly traded and responsible for carrying all of Hasbro. Lurks With Wolves posted:New Capenna's setting and aesthetic was cool and well-received as far as I know, but the story they told and the story they presented in the cards themselves. They pitched it as a city ruled by devils without angels (but they just might return), but the actual set had the mythic rare angel the story was built around and... four or five angels that were pretty common and seemed to be doing perfectly fine. They introduced a bunch of cool named figures, and then they murdered most of them before you could possibly get attached. Lol so I read the Phyrexia revisit to Capenna but not the OG story, I thought it was always a city ruled by art and the different art attitudes or mediums had their own guilds, with devil's and angels being the two main opposingish power centers. I can see being let down if pitched a devils only city! The main Capenna character I keep meaning to go read up on is Errant Street Artist. I like any artist creature but they way they attacked Phyrexians was really cool and I wanna know more about em. The downside would be finding out all who died, a lot of them seem like they could be iconic characters to revisit, moreso than some of the Planeswalker chumps they keep dragging along.
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Lotus Field combo is just the dumbest deck
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Lotus Field combo is just the dumbest deck Salty or just wrong?
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Salty about what? It's easily the most boring deck of this Pro Tour with the stupidest playstyle and it's not fun to watch.
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Sometimes when people complain about a deck it’s because they just lost to it. I don’t agree that it’s boring and unfun to watch, but some people just hate combo for some reason. Honestly I think it’s cool as hell when someone manages to stick a sick combo and obliterate me. Not as cool as when they get disrupted and fold, but can’t win ‘em all.
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The dance of will they won't they is fun but that's a very small part of the game which makes the mu incredibly dull
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Lurks With Wolves posted:and they don't want to invest in keeping lore people in the company for longer than six months before they're fired or quit, Does WotC not have a permanent writing staff? I mean, even if they had specific additional writers contracted to help write specific sets/arcs, they got to have more than a skeleton crew that has some sort of vision for the game's future that's given an equal seat with the gameplay, product and art people. Right?
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Loucks posted:Sometimes when people complain about a deck it’s because they just lost to it. I don’t agree that it’s boring and unfun to watch, but some people just hate combo for some reason. Eh... Lotus Field isn't even that kind of combo though.
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cgeq posted:Does WotC not have a permanent writing staff? I mean, even if they had specific additional writers contracted to help write specific sets/arcs, they got to have more than a skeleton crew that has some sort of vision for the game's future that's given an equal seat with the gameplay, product and art people. Right?
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Mat Cauthon posted:I put in some reps with this and it can be competitive but feels very blah. Fable underperforms more often than not. I'm tempted to try out an Orzhov variant, but that would probably be more aggro oriented than this deck wants to be. I put it together on Arena and the main boring aspect is so did so many of my opponents. I think the only sideboarding for the mirror is Duress out for Bitter Triumph , but my inclination is also to explore Orzhov. I think I disagree about Fable though, copying Harvester is a big threat, to say nothing of Ripper, and access to treasure can accelerate hard casting Ripper, and the loot chapter can help you reach Sorin or another key piece.
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You know the format stinks when Duress is a mainboard card
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YggdrasilTM posted:Still perplexed to why people are supposed to like Pioneer, that has been "Combo decks, the format" since year 1 It was nice in those first few months when they actively curated it, the dynamism was actually fun I think, but then Journey Into Nyx came out and they didn't want to act against new cards like Oracle, and also just dropped right off on addressing balance for ages. Covid didn't help but making the format not miserable then would have.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1azsvs3/mark_rosewater_on_why_there_arent_modern_event/ Has this been posted? Reminder that not paying for Modern cards is cool and good
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did people really need confirmation that wotc wants more powerful products to be more expensive or did everyone forget double masters already
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