ulmont posted:

Chicago and surrounding areas would be my guess.

ulmont posted:

Chicago and surrounding areas would be my guess.

Civilized Fishbot posted:

Does anyone know why the hog cloud cloud isn't contiguous, breaking up over east/central Illinois? Something about that area make it less hospitable to hog-raising/more amenable to a different industry?

SlothfulCobra posted:

for some reason North Carolina has emerged as a major pork producer in the last century.

quote:

[Eastern North Carolina hog farms] are located in rural farming communities that have an abundance of nearby corn and soybeans (the main ingredients in feed) and are within a short drive of pork processing plants.

When the industry began to grew significantly in the late 1980s and early 1990s, it was because tobacco farmers were being encouraged to diversify so they were less reliant on tobacco. And there were plenty of tobacco farmers in eastern North Carolina.

Civilized Fishbot posted:

Does anyone know why the hog cloud cloud isn't contiguous, breaking up over east/central Illinois? Something about that area make it less hospitable to hog-raising/more amenable to a different industry?

BonHair posted:

Was it these scribbles that caused the amazing enclaves around (on? The prepositions feel weird) the border? I think they straightened it out recently, but I remember third level enclaves going on.

Mr. Belpit posted:

You're thinking of the border between India and Bangladesh (previously East Pakistan), which did have a single third-order enclave involved. Most of those (including the third-order enclave) were abolished when the border was simplified in a 2015 agreement.

iirc from when I last read up on this, the funky border situation actually pre-dated British colonization of the area, with the reason for it being uncertain and unrecorded. The legend around it is that the neighboring pre-colonial lords liked to use small parcels of land as wagers in games with each other.

edit: on checking again, the land-wager thing is a common popular legend, but the more likely cause was apparently a poorly-written treaty in the early 1700s that effectively froze the temporary territorial gains of the war it ended.

edit 2: Just so my post has a map, here's Wikipedia's map for Dahala Khagrabari, which was the world's only third-order enclave when it existed! It was apparently just an unpopulated field.

Koramei posted:

I know I shouldn't still be getting surprised by the Mercator projection, but I've been reading about Southeast Asia lately and decided to look up the Malay Archipelago up on truesize out of curiosity and was slightly mind-blown:

Platystemon posted:

If the universe were scaled down such that the Sun shrunk to the size of a softball on home plate at PacBell Park in San Francisco, Earth would be a large grain of sand, about a millimetre in diameter, just short of the pitcher’s mound.

The nearest neighboring star, Proxima Centauri, would be in New York City.

Platystemon posted:

If the universe were scaled down such that the Sun shrunk to the size of a softball on home plate at PacBell Park in San Francisco, Earth would be a large grain of sand, about a millimetre in diameter, just short of the pitcher’s mound.

The nearest neighboring star, Proxima Centauri, would be in New York City.

Badger of Basra posted:

I would simply divide up a united and heterogenous ethno-linguistic region in a way that minimizes disruption and death

Mr. Belpit posted:

iirc from when I last read up on this, the funky border situation actually pre-dated British colonization of the area, with the reason for it being uncertain and unrecorded. The legend around it is that the neighboring pre-colonial lords liked to use small parcels of land as wagers in games with each other.

Saladman posted:

I mean, this was not really possible to do. The Brits and French did this with the Treaty of Lausanne and people are still bitching about that more than 100 years later (usually, idiots who call it Sykes-Picot), even though it was designed primarily around local ethno-linguistic boundaries.

Try setting a good boundary today between Red America and Blue America, or in 1960 between Black America and White-Passing America (and who knows wtf to do with Asians in that model). That wouldn't have worked either in large sections.

Turns out setting country boundaries is hard. And not having country boundaries is also pretty bad, historically, vis-a-vis it set the stage for tons of horrific wars.

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Can anyone tell me how big of an influence soybean producers have on the government of South Dakota,? I wanna know how much to worry about Big Soy

Badger of Basra posted:

Yes that’s the joke behind the “I would simply” meme format

Civilized Fishbot posted:

Does anyone know why the hog cloud cloud isn't contiguous, breaking up over east/central Illinois? Something about that area make it less hospitable to hog-raising/more amenable to a different industry?

Saladman posted:

I mean, this was not really possible to do. The Brits and French did this with the Treaty of Lausanne and people are still bitching about that more than 100 years later (usually, idiots who call it Sykes-Picot), even though it was designed primarily around local ethno-linguistic boundaries.

Count Roland posted:

What's wrong with referring to Sykes-Picot? It helped define much of the post war middle East and pretty well exemplifies how dumb empires can be.

Saladman posted:

Ah, wasn't familiar with that meme format, even after Googling it.

Guavanaut posted:

PittTheElder posted:

It did, but it was also never implemented in the face of the backlash after the Soviets published it. The actual borders that get drawn at San Remo are also very different in important ways.

drk posted:

So, the answer is actually somewhat politically loaded! American smoking has been falling since the 1950s, but there was an especially big drop in the 1980s.

kiminewt posted:

I don't know what Kroger is but I'm guessing they sell hogs?