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My issue with BOTW and TOTK is basically the same. They are both excellently crafted games that you can sink dozens of hours into but it's impossible to not feel like whatever you're currently doing is very shallow. It's one of those gaming experiences where no matter what you're doing in the actual game you're more compelled with the idea of the thing that you're not doing. That's fine when you're new to the game world and there's plenty of objectives for you to get the new shiny thing or level up X or Y, But at some point you kind of have what you want already and at that point the actual mechanical gameplay that you're engaging with just doesn't do anything for me. They both have extremely compelling early games so I'm not going to call them bad or even average, I'm just never going to call them a complete experience or compare them to my favorite games.
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Feb 26, 2024 16:54
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I think the issue is that people need to decide when they are done with the game, rather than a linear game funneling you into it over time. And it's hard to decide to say "I'm ready to be done," as a personal thing.
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Feb 26, 2024 17:04
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Alxprit posted:I think the issue is that people need to decide when they are done with the game, rather than a linear game funneling you into it over time. And it's hard to decide to say "I'm ready to be done," as a personal thing. When you beat Ganon, you are done with the game. It's really as simple as that. You can keep playing because you enjoy it, but you're done when you hit credits.
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Feb 26, 2024 17:23
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Weirdly I love Valheim which is basically all of the complaints I have about these two Zelda games except even shallower and it's also not done yet.
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Feb 26, 2024 17:47
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:When you beat Ganon, you are done with the game. It's really as simple as that. You can keep playing because you enjoy it, but you're done when you hit credits. I accidentally beat Ganon before I wanted to. I went to the castle to find Zelda so I could get the robot guardian but I mistakenly went underground before I went into the castle proper. Kind of a let down when I realized I was at the final fight. As good as it was, I wanted to do that after I finished everything in the game I wanted to first, as I did in BotW. I’m still trucking through, completing as much as I can before I feel like I’m done with the game, but the way I did it is making me run out of steam earlier than I think I would have otherwise.
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Feb 26, 2024 18:46
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There's a LOT in these newer Zelda games. Trying to do everything will probably burn you out.
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Feb 26, 2024 18:59
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:There's a LOT in these newer Zelda games. Trying to do everything will probably burn you out. I barely have bothered even looking for many Korock in both games (my main BOTW game I was able to do a spam glitch that enabled you to re-encounter the Korock on top of Robbie’s lab over and over again for the single week it was around before it was patched). I don’t have full slots for TOTK but enough to get by. poo poo I nearly didn’t bother lighting up the entirety of the Depths until I said gently caress it long after I finished the game. I still haven’t fought in all the coliseums down there nor have I defeated all of the Gleeocks around the world.
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Feb 26, 2024 19:07
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:When you beat Ganon, you are done with the game. It's really as simple as that. You can keep playing because you enjoy it, but you're done when you hit credits. Yes, I realize that - I mean that some people will keep on playing the game out of a sense of duty or whatever else, when they're ready to be done with it and go beat the final boss.
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Feb 26, 2024 19:17
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RCarr posted:I accidentally beat Ganon before I wanted to. I went to the castle to find Zelda so I could get the robot guardian but I mistakenly went underground before I went into the castle proper. Kind of a let down when I realized I was at the final fight. As good as it was, I wanted to do that after I finished everything in the game I wanted to first, as I did in BotW. Alxprit posted:Yes, I realize that - I mean that some people will keep on playing the game out of a sense of duty or whatever else, when they're ready to be done with it and go beat the final boss. For me it was the opposite. I wanted to beat the main story as quickly as possible so I could stop worrying about having the ending spoiled. Then I went right back to work on finding all the shrines and lightroots and armor and stuff. Not out of any sense of need or duty, just cause it's a really drat fun game. I have no interest in the true sicko grinds though like finding all koroks and upgrading all armor sets, gently caress that. I still have like 8 shrines to track down but Baldur's Gate is now consuming all my gaming time. Some day
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Feb 26, 2024 21:10
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The year that BotW, I think I played through it at least three times — aided in large part by all the DLC. I just now started a second playthrough of TotK. I wasn't sure if I was gonna stick with it because I played the hell out of the game last spring. But I'm really enjoying going through it in largely different ways. I got the Master Sword before completing any story questions. I've unlocked large chunks of the map and defeated some tough enemies even though almost every hit is a OHKO. But yeah, I doubt I will put anywhere near the same amount of hours I put into BotW, even though I think TotK is the superior game. After this second playthough, I imagine I'll be done for good. And I went through BotW like five or six times over the years. TotK just isn't different enough, so burning myself out on the first game kind of makes the second a little worse for wear. I'm just excited for whatever they do next because I'd like to see a new world to explore. The sky and depths just didn't add enough in themselves.
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Feb 26, 2024 21:46
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I started a new BotW game this weekend because I felt like screwing around on the plateau and seeing the dialogue in a different language. So once I got the glider I beelined to Kakariko and now I'm on my way to Hateno. There's a lot of NPC scenes and dialogue I either didn't see in past playthroughs or forgot about. Like the guy at the gate of Fort Hateno telling you he's there to honor the people who fought there 100 years ago, because he wouldn't be alive if not for them. He has a surprising number of different lines depending on the time of day or the weather. Or there's the carrot guy in Kakariko who goes to check on his wife in the shop in the afternoon, that's a cute bit. But then there's also Dorian's youngest daughter sneaking out at dawn to visit her mother's grave. The NPC scheduling in Kakariko at least is pretty elaborate. What I'm hoping is that they make the next game smaller and they have more NPC moments like those. Maybe have a thriving Castle Town again.
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Feb 26, 2024 22:24
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I was really hoping that TotK would be set long enough after BotW to have some kind of rudimentary Castle Town built back up. Lookout Landing just doesn’t scratch that itch at all.
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Feb 26, 2024 22:27
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The Maroon Hawk posted:I was really hoping that TotK would be set long enough after BotW to have some kind of rudimentary Castle Town built back up. Lookout Landing just doesn’t scratch that itch at all. Yeah 6 years is time enough for things to be a bit more developed, I agree. It's also pretty stark inside the castle which I would have figured would have been a bit of priority to make as a base of operations, not just the one outside of the town.
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Feb 26, 2024 22:30
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I'm blaming hardware limitations. But also it kind of makes sense that they would only be starting to really rebuild after a few years given how post-apocalyptic everything was in BotW. Hylian society was 3 small villages and a whole bunch of wandering scavengers. It sounds like by the start of TotK they'd focused on getting trade going and only recently started thinking about rebuilding the castle town. It's also not very clear how long Lookout Landing was even there. The new Sheikah towers might have been in the works for a while but it's possible the fort was only built in a rush after the Upheaval happened and monsters started popping up everywhere again. E : I mean, the castle is a mess. It's a half-collapsed ruin and moblins have been making GBS threads all over the place for years. I'd chill out in Hateno Kassad fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Feb 26, 2024 |
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Feb 26, 2024 23:00
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Kassad posted:^^ I mean, the castle is a mess. Half of it got blown up or collapsed. That's true - there is zero indication how long it's been since the Upheaval by the time you get back.
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Feb 26, 2024 23:03
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I honestly thought that was going to be a bigger deal in the game than it ended up being, because it seemed like at least a month had passed given how many Zelda sightings there had been.
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Feb 26, 2024 23:07
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It's also very in character for this Zelda that educating children and creating an archeological research society would make the top of her list of things to do.
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Feb 26, 2024 23:08
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It’s kind of hard to tell because most of Lookout Landing looks like it could’ve been thrown together in 4-6 weeks, but the tower must’ve taken significantly longer than that…unless the tower was already under construction and they just decided to anchor their FOB around it
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Feb 26, 2024 23:34
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There was actually a thriving town built around the castle but when Ganondorf raised the castle it completely destroyed everything around it, and nobody ever took a picture or made a record of the town at the time. 
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Feb 27, 2024 01:54
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Raposa posted:There was actually a thriving town built around the castle but when Ganondorf raised the castle it completely destroyed everything around it, and nobody ever took a picture or made a record of the town at the time. There was a severe lack of Purah Pads to take pictures with because Zelda had to go and take the only working one with her to King Rauru's court
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Feb 27, 2024 02:03
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I wondered about a lot of that stuff at the start of the game, but after enough interaction with the locals and their geospatial and cognitive prowess, not least of all the guy who fell into a head high pit 1 foot from a main highway who decided that meant all he could do was quietly die, it wasn't so surprising that nobody really remembered anything about that town.
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Feb 27, 2024 03:12
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My faves are the group that had to be taught how to cook things. This is why I believe they hadn't started rebuilding the town yet: a good chunk of the population was in a state where they just ate random poo poo they just picked up off the ground.
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Feb 27, 2024 09:26
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The IQ distribution in Hyrule isn't standard with a few individuals capable of understanding ancient technology almost effortlessly and on the other end many people trying to eat monster guts and pinecones.
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Feb 27, 2024 09:40
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In fairness to the latter, Link sets a bad example with his ability to digest anything.
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Feb 27, 2024 09:42
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Kassad posted:In fairness to the latter, Link sets a bad example with his ability to digest anything. Zelda awakened something in Link when she wanted him to lick that frog.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:30
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I stopped playing TotK back in like June because my Switch needed repairs which I finally got resolved. Anyways... I felt like an idiot having forgotten the controls and was totally lost. I was thinking this is NOT an easy game to come back to. My biggest wtf am I doing moment was finding a mine and pulling a Zonai bomb off a rack of bombs and being like, "I don't need this metal ball thing for my rocket sled" and throwing it back at the rack of five other bombs. I did not make my rocket sled. After wandering around doing random poo poo for several hours with no goal or purpose in mind it hit me - this is actually awesome and the point of the game. I stayed up playing until almost 11pm, which is past my bedtime on a week night!
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Feb 27, 2024 15:54
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Kassad posted:In fairness to the latter, Link sets a bad example with his ability to digest anything. Ya boy just chowing down on molten rock like it's nothing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpvEfDofZgs
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Feb 27, 2024 16:54
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Beat the final boss. Definitely a good test of how well you know parry and dodge. I played BotW so long ago I don't remember most of it anymore, but TotK is a worthy follow up. On to other things now
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Feb 27, 2024 18:54
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lol the cutscenes in AoC own so much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTRtWOYja3U
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Feb 27, 2024 18:58
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Beat the final boss. Definitely a good test of how well you know parry and dodge. Or a good test of how many hearts you have / how much you’ve upgraded your armor. I haven’t parried a single attack in the entire game and the fight was pretty laughable in terms of difficulty.
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Feb 27, 2024 18:58
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RCarr posted:Or a good test of how many hearts you have / how much you’ve upgraded your armor. I haven’t parried a single attack in the entire game and the fight was pretty laughable in terms of difficulty. yeah I loving suck at parry/dodge but nothing some max level armor and a bunch of food can't fix  I love the last fight simply for the enormous health bar that goes all the way across the screen, that was such a good bit lol
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Feb 27, 2024 19:07
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Docjowles posted:yeah I loving suck at parry/dodge but nothing some max level armor and a bunch of food can't fix  I can't parry or dodge for poo poo either for reasons I do not understand. I think I just don't think I know how to properly do it, I was good at it in BotW though which seems weird. I'm just trying to stockpile hearts and upgrade armor fully. I don't really have anything left to do I don't think. I've done 17 Main Quests, 34 Side Adventures, 34 Side Quests, and 5 Shrine Quests. What's the best armor to go into the final battle with?
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Feb 27, 2024 19:14
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eightysixed posted:
Anything that’s upgraded at least twice should be more than enough.
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Feb 27, 2024 19:27
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Docjowles posted:yeah I loving suck at parry/dodge but nothing some max level armor and a bunch of food can't fix Yeah I'm not very good at either so it always amazes me when I watch videos of masters doing their thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_n52JJpwe8
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Feb 27, 2024 19:33
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eightysixed posted:What's the best armor to go into the final battle with? Tbh I just wore the fully upgraded Hylian armor you buy in Lookout Landing for most of the game including the final battle, it's cheap and easy. If you have something with even higher defense numbers, cool. Eat some attack up food and have a stock pile of food that restores health + hearts lost to gloom Also make sure to drop a travel medallion before jumping down to the final battle area so if you decide you didn't bring enough food or whatever you can easily leave and come back. It should be pretty obvious when you've reached that point.
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Feb 27, 2024 19:42
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eightysixed posted:What's the best armor to go into the final battle with?
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Feb 27, 2024 19:42
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Docjowles posted:Tbh I just wore the fully upgraded Hylian armor you buy in Lookout Landing for most of the game including the final battle, it's cheap and easy. If you have something with even higher defense numbers, cool. Eat some attack up food and have a stock pile of food that restores health + hearts lost to gloom Hylian set dyed black has been my go-to since BoTW because i love how it looks. It's a nice touch that in ToTK if you complete a certain mission you can put the hood down.
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Feb 27, 2024 19:47
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I used the frog suit to keep myself wet for as long as possible. But in the game, I wore
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Feb 27, 2024 19:50
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Hylian set dyed black has been my go-to since BoTW because i love how it looks. It's a nice touch that in ToTK if you complete a certain mission you can put the hood down. Yeah, I did that mission  Docjowles posted:Tbh I just wore the fully upgraded Hylian armor you buy in Lookout Landing for most of the game including the final battle, it's cheap and easy. If you have something with even higher defense numbers, cool. Eat some attack up food and have a stock pile of food that restores health + hearts lost to gloom END CHEMTRAILS NOW posted:Tingle's set, of course. But if you just want the best stats, then it's Diamond Circlet + Champion's Leathers + Zonaite Shin Guards (or any other 28 armor pants), and then you can add a level 2 or 3 attack buff on top if you want. Attack buffs don't scale beyond 3 levels, so Diamond Circlet and a level 2 food buff gets you to max attack power. Thanks for the advice! 
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Yeah I'm not very good at either so it always amazes me when I watch videos of masters doing their thing. Not quite the same thing, but I'm reminded of these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1or3YILu28M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wxU3z9VxOY You don't have to watch them in order, but it's better if you do.
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