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Forrest on Fire posted:Lmao I love Kyler but nobody believes the Cardinals are happy with him under center. The HC seems to like him but the GM and owner don't I don't think Kyler is a fantastic QB but I also feel like he's on the verge of becoming criminally underrated. It won't be easy to replace him.
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Professor Funk posted:I don't think Kyler is a fantastic QB but I also feel like he's on the verge of becoming criminally underrated. It won't be easy to replace him. And Kyler definitely is not the most pressing issue in Arizona. They have so many positions to fill up, so they might as well keep him for the next 2-3 years since he has that contract anyways.
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If there were a leaguewide re-draft, Kyler probably still goes in the top 15. Maybe even top 10, if you put a premium on youth?
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Feb 26, 2024 18:41
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I hate Kliff's offenses so I think Kyler is actually pretty good just had a piss easy offense that teams figured out. Have fun Commies
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fsif posted:If there were a leaguewide re-draft, Kyler probably still goes in the top 15. Maybe even top 10, if you put a premium on youth? Yeah, without doing a thorough ranking or anything, I feel like at this very moment he would be...12 or 13? Somewhere around there. But that's coming off of an injury. We've seen him play like a top 8ish QB before, so maybe if you did it in a year or two he would be top 10.
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There's 6 guys I feel you can just ignore anyone who says if they'd take Kyler over them, so I guess I'd be curious how people would organize this list: Murray, Lawrence, Dak, Love, Tua, Purdy, Hurts, Goff. Leaving Stafford and Kirk out for being 35. I'd also put Dak in that first list, but people love to hate them a Cowboy.
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Feb 26, 2024 19:06
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Cardinals going to mess around and make Kyler a Viking.
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Kalli posted:There's 6 guys I feel you can just ignore anyone who says if they'd take Kyler over them, so I guess I'd be curious how people would organize this list: I'd rather have Hurts. I think. Hurts Murray Love Dak Tua Lawrence Goff Purdy
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Kalli posted:There's 6 guys I feel you can just ignore anyone who says if they'd take Kyler over them, so I guess I'd be curious how people would organize this list: Dak Lawrence(I have never seen a more unlucky QB than Lawrence last year lol) Goff Hurts Love(I need to see him maintain that production for more than like half a year but uh if he does he's above Dak) Murray Purdy
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At what point do you draft a non-QB? Do you take Justin Jefferson or Brock Purdy? e: But re: the QBs… Love Dak Hurts Murray Lawrence Tua Purdy Goff fsif fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Feb 26, 2024 |
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Kalli posted:There's 6 guys I feel you can just ignore anyone who says if they'd take Kyler over them, so I guess I'd be curious how people would organize this list: Between the names you listed and the 6 you said you'd exclude, I can't figure out who's the last one: Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Herbie, Stroud. Anyway this is how I'd personally sort that group: Hurts, Dak, Goff, Love, Lawrence, Purdy, Tua, Kyler. I do think Love isn't anywhere close to his ceiling though, especially now that in 2024 he'll actually have receivers who have NFL snaps.
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fsif posted:At what point do you draft a non-QB? Do you take Justin Jefferson or Brock Purdy? Jefferson over Purdy all day lol
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Kalli posted:There's 6 guys I feel you can just ignore anyone who says if they'd take Kyler over them, so I guess I'd be curious how people would organize this list: Goff - Just by virtue of getting two playoff wins for the Lions. Making a Super Bowl doesn't hurt either. Dak - Great if you want to win the regular season. Meh in the playoffs, but still better than most of the rest of this list. Hurts - Probably has the most upside and can win playoff games, but who knows how he'll fare with the chaos in Philly. Purdy - Can win when he needs to, has 1.5 solid seasons under his belt including several playoff games. Not flashy but he does what he needs to. Tua - When he's on, he's amazing. It's just having him be consistently great that's the issue, and it's a big one. Murray - He's good enough to will the Cardinals to win games, which is impressive on its own, and he does well despite the amount of poo poo he has to deal with. Love - Only this low because he has one season under his belt, and half of that was getting adjusted to the offense and his teammates. He'll likely be much higher next year having actual experience. Trevor - He looks off a lot, and though he does have a big playoff comeback, it was against the Chargers, so it's arguable whether that really counts. He might still pull it together, but I don't have the faith of him doing well that I do the rest of this group. I'd honestly knock him down to the top of the next tier.
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A surprising amount of fullback erasure in this hypothetical re--draft
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Forrest on Fire posted:If they do that, I'm buying a knockoff Bears sweatshirt and going full meathead posting. I'm looking forward to you stepping up your posting game.
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Feb 26, 2024 20:32
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Murray did not look that bad when he came in last year, people make it sound like he looked like Zach Wilson. He did not repeat his 2020 season, but he did not have much to work with and he is probably still a slightly above average starting QB.
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Kalli posted:There's 6 guys I feel you can just ignore anyone who says if they'd take Kyler over them, so I guess I'd be curious how people would organize this list: Dak is still probably the obvious top choice even without the playoff success Then I'd probably go: Tua, can be great but lacks consistency Lawrence, same reason Goff, he'll never be a top guy and doesn't have a second dimension with his legs at all, but he can ball Hurts, seems like he has a lower ceiling at this point but still has potential Murray, he does have the second dimension and can play but I don't think he's gonna elevate a team that much Incomplete grades Purdy - it's really hard to tell how good he is outside the system he's in Love - Not crowning the guy after half a season of good play. Keep it up next year bud
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Febreeze posted:Purdy - it's really hard to tell how good he is outside the system he's in Hes really good the level in which he executes the system is better than all but 5 qbs in the league
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On this topic the Ringer released their 2024 QB Commitment index.quote:Lied About His Height on Hinge, and the First Date Was a Disaster quote:Toxic Long-Distance Relationship
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Really appreciating just how jumbled that list is from you six, outside of Dak and Purdy at opposite ends of the spectrum. Hurts: 1, 4, 3, 1, 3, 5 Murray: 2, 6, 4, 8, 5, 6 Love: 3, 5, 1, 4, 7, X Dak: 4, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1 Tua: 5, X, 6, 7, 5, 2 Lawrence: 6, 2, 5, 5, 8, 3 Goff: 7, 3, 8, 3, 1, 4 Purdy: 8, 7, 7, 6, 4, X
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Kalli posted:Really appreciating just how jumbled that list is from you six, outside of Dak and Purdy at opposite ends of the spectrum. I’m kind of surprised at those results. Goff at #1 is clear trolling!!! 1. Dak 2. Lawrence 3. Hurts 4. Murray 5. Love 6. Tua 7. Purdy 8. Goff
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I'd put Dak at the top of my list for players who should be in a toilet!!!!!!!!
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Kalli posted:Really appreciating just how jumbled that list is from you six, outside of Dak and Purdy at opposite ends of the spectrum. It should be noted I'm an enormous Dak hater. I don't think it's based on anything other than gently caress the Cowboys but I just see him and think Dallas which, gross. Love is based on me believing GB just figured it out and will always have a QB of elite caliber. Kyler I've watched as a fan for years and I just really like him as a person.
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Yeah, I just appreciate seeing all your thoughts, because I originally tried to write out a NFL draft order in lines of: 1-5, 6-10, 11-15 and past putting Dak at 7 I spent a few minutes going ????? trying to order 8-10 before giving up and trashing it for that post.
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I like Murray more than Hurts but the age is a consideration. I also think it’s plausible that Murray could be as good as Dak (albeit different stylistically) if he gets some better support… …like perhaps a certain blue chip WR prospect…
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Hot Diggity! posted:Jordan Love Hell yeah brother.
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A lot of work needed on that OL. Woof. https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1762278904906064225?t=KmDjunG1-KWOCTthrTmOGA&s=19
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wandler20 posted:A lot of work needed on that OL. Woof. is he bad? the FA OL list is dire. if he's not bad he'll be signed the minute FA begins
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Laken has been terrible with the Jets. He was already one of the guy needing to be replaced. Also Payton is a shithead. https://twitter.com/kurtbenkert/status/1762297915198890129?s=46
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This can't possibly be true. Surely the bar for "conduct detrimental to the team" has to be higher than "got mad during a game."
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it’s a good thing Sean Payton has no history of being a piece of poo poo otherwise I might believe that
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Shaq ruled but was never the same after his Achilles injury. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1762453851515363476?t=z7VF_fvQSAETDwnctkQmYg&s=19
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ghosthorse posted:it’s a good thing Sean Payton has no history of being a piece of poo poo otherwise I might believe that Hey no doubt Sean Payton is a shithead, but that tweet is—I guess—counting on no one actually watching the video it's quoting? There's nothing there that even remotely suggests Wilson's contract would have been in danger for snapping back at Payton.
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fsif posted:Hey no doubt Sean Payton is a shithead, but that tweet is—I guess—counting on no one actually watching the video it's quoting? There's nothing there that even remotely suggests Wilson's contract would have been in danger for snapping back at Payton. Yeah I watched the video, it basically is a recap of the staring contest between him in the broncos over the injury guarantee. Nothing about the contract as a whole Wonder if he quoted the wrong tweet?
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Feb 27, 2024 15:18
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Also, there's nothing in the tweet to indicate that the information actually came from Wilson or anyone else. It could just be this dude speculating.
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Could just be talking about "conduct detrimental to the team" clauses being an intentionally vague way for teams to exert power. There is no distinction between Aaron Hernandez killing sprees, Antonio Brown doing Antonio Brown things, and a QB getting into public fight with his HC.
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It's just obviously made up and absurd on its face. Contracts in the NFL don't get voided because a player argues with a coach.Diva Cupcake posted:Could just be talking about "conduct detrimental to the team" clauses being an intentionally vague way for teams to exert power. There is no distinction between Aaron Hernandez killing sprees, Antonio Brown doing Antonio Brown things, and a QB getting into public fight with his HC. I would argue there is absolutely IS a distinction between those things!
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fsif posted:It's just obviously made up and absurd on its face. Contracts in the NFL don't get voided because a player argues with a coach.
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