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Paracaidas posted:There's a massive gap between "people I agree with on everything" and the poo poo that APP advocates for. I think we all have a threshold for what's tolerable disagreement Sure, of course, but I'm never going to accomplish anything if there are ever only single digits percentages of the population I can work with. Progress is always going to be mean working with people who are literal monsters unless you yourself are so monstrous that most of the population is better than you. I don't need to actually find someone tolerable to work with them towards shared goals. The danger of working with most conservative groups in particular is that they are often straight up lying about their goals and you risk getting played quite badly by giving them the benefit of the doubt, so the extent of beneficial collaboration often looks like "I wrote this bill and you claim to want this sort of thing so why don't you vote for it?" If you have to give them additional stuff you don't want to get them on board, then the original premise (that you were both working towards the same good goal, that there was ANYTHING you agreed on) was clearly false. It's an entirely different situation. Working together with a group of bigots to write and pass actual antitrust legislation is necessary Working together with a group of bigots to write anti-trans legislation that pretends to be about sticking it to big tech is something else entirely.
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A federal judge has reversed the previous order allowing Alexander Smirnov to remain free while awaiting trial and is now requiring him to be detained until criminal proceedings finish after his attorneys were suspected of petitioning for his release to help him flee the country (allegedly to Russia). https://twitter.com/AP/status/1762174865744822342 quote:Ex-FBI informant charged with lying about Bidens to remain jailed while he awaits trial, judge rules
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FMguru posted:They don't just want a horserace, they want a Trump victory. Crazy Donny's Three Ring Circus Of Chaos was a money-geyser for news ratings and viewership and subscriptions and engagement metrics and advertising revenue (most political and news websites have seen traffic drops of 30-50% between the Trump and Biden eras), and they want that back. Everyone living in existential dread and constantly doom-reloading news sites and twitter was really good for business! Imagine the ratings CNN will get when they are livestreaming the nuclear warhead incoming track to the US east coast! That'll make a big splash for that quarter!
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Cimber posted:Imagine the ratings CNN will get when they are livestreaming the nuclear warhead incoming track to the US east coast! That'll make a big splash for that quarter! But then shareholders will demand growth, so in Q3, there has to be two or three warheads inbound.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:A federal judge has reversed the previous order allowing Alexander Smirnov to remain free while awaiting trial and is now requiring him to be detained until criminal proceedings finish after his attorneys were suspected of petitioning for his release to help him flee the country (allegedly to Russia). do lawyers have a professional obligation to help their clients leave a jurisdiction if that is an option?
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Cimber posted:Imagine the ratings CNN will get when they are livestreaming the nuclear warhead incoming track to the US east coast! That'll make a big splash for that quarter! we already know what their coverage will look like https://www.theguardian.com/media/video/2015/jan/06/cnn-end-of-the-world-doomsday-video
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:do lawyers have a professional obligation to help their clients leave a jurisdiction if that is an option? No. That is called aiding a fugitive in absconding from justice and is generally pretty frowned upon since it is a crime.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:No. That is called aiding a fugitive in absconding from justice and is generally pretty frowned upon since it is a crime. Generally requires the lawyer to flee themselves, as seen in the case of Goodman, Saul.
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Attorney-Client privilege doesn't cover helping the client commit additional crimes, which is why many of Trump's good lawyers tend to quit after a little bit.
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Morrow posted:Attorney-Client privilege doesn't cover helping the client commit additional crimes, which is why many of Trump's good lawyers tend to quit after a little bit. I thought it was half that and half the client refusing to even try to act like a defendant
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The FTC makes it official: It is suing to stop the Albertson's and Kroger merger. The FTC argues that the merger will have an anti-competitive impact and could potentially raise prices, may result in lower quality products for consumers, and may lead to less investment in the Albertson's stores. Kroger has disputed the argument that the merger would result in anti-competitive or anti-consumer practices. In response to the suit, Kroger has also promised that it will invest $500 million into lowering prices immediately after the merger concludes and invest $1.3 billion into improving Albertson's stores to prove to the court that it is taking the FTC's claims seriously and actively working to address them if the merger is approved. The merger would be the largest grocery merger in U.S. history and the Albertson's stores are unionized. Kroger has promised to honor any existing collective bargaining agreements, but the FTC says that the lack of competition in some areas will make it harder to leverage those collective bargaining agreements and weaken the ability of the workers to increase their wages as quickly. Several local Albertson's employee unions endorsed the merger, but the parent organizations of the United Food and Commercial Workers union (which represents all the workers at Albertson's stores) voted to oppose the merger. https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1762180355522478099 quote:FTC sues to block Kroger-Albertsons merger, saying it could push grocery prices higher Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Feb 26, 2024 |
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It's honestly great to see the FTC caring about more than just consumer prices and not relying on companies pinky promising to lower prices.
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Majorian posted:You are looking at this from a very "top-down" perspective. In reality, the peasants and workers who marched for bread and land in the streets of Paris, St. Petersburg, or Shanghai were more concerned with getting their basic needs for survival met, than with increasing their group's political power. The workers (not peasants) who marched for bread and land believed that increasing their group's political power (or, more accurately, reducing the overwhelmingly dominant political power of the elite classes) was the only way to make sure that all of their needs and desires - basic or not - could be met. This is really important to note, because France and Russia had had plenty of famines, economic problems, and peasant revolts before. The core factors that caused the dissatisfaction to erupt into full-scale revolution, rather than just another series of bread riots, were the obsolescence of the feudal system itself and the agitation of intellectuals inspired by Enlightenment values. That was what had changed to make revolution possible where it hadn't been before, politicizing the poorest classes and making them believe that it was even possible to have something better than the existing system. For example, what sparked the very beginning of the French Revolutionary period wasn't "regressive taxes" or "unpopular wars that disproportionately affected the poor". it was "the king calling in the Estates General because of the nobility's refusal to cooperate, and the commoner estate demanding equal political power as the price for their cooperation with the king's requests". When the nobility reacted sharply and the king was unwilling to concede to the commoners, the bourgeois of Paris rioted and stormed the Bastille. Meanwhile, rumors spread throughout the countryside that the nobles were deliberately causing famines to punish the common folk, leading to rural peasant revolts against feudal privileges and the aristocracy. That said, the poor and starving workers of Paris certainly played an important role later in the Revolutionary period, as their support became critically important in the inter-factional feuding of the successful revolutionaries. As the various revolutionary factions failed to effectively address material conditions and the French people continued to suffer famine, the urban working class gravitated to the more radical factions, providing a strong militant pressure that led them to become the backbone of Robespierre's faction and a strong influence on the Reign of Terror. Why weren't the peasants marching for bread? By definition, peasants were farmers, and thus the primary source of food for the entire country. Even when famine hit, they could usually at least scrape by to some extent by reverting to simple subsistence farming and evading taxes. On the other hand, the urban workers who relied entirely on the peasants' surpluses, would be left to starve if the peasants didn't have any surpluses to sell to them. There might be some friction between peasant farmers and aristocratic landlords, who'd typically insist on getting their portion of the harvest regardless of crop failures, but the urbanites were by far the worst hit. As for China, the 1911 revolution was openly, blatantly nationalist, led by groups like the Revive China Society who sought to put an end to what later Chinese nationalists called the "Century of Humiliation" at the hands of Western powers. Particularly influential was the Western intervention in the Boxer Rebellion just a decade earlier, which was also an openly anti-foreigner rebellion which sought to drive Western influence out of China and put an end to the concessions and privileges that were seen by many to be a prelude to outright colonization. The Boxers' slogan was "Support the Qing government and exterminate the foreigners", and the Qing capitulation to the resulting foreign invasion as well as the failure of various reform attempts caused the Qing government to be seen as incapable of resisting Western incursions and demands. While any natural disasters at the time no doubt contributed somewhat to the unrest, every account I've ever seen flags both the 1900 rebellion and the 1911 revolution as fundamentally anti-imperialist and only briefly - if at all - mentions things like flooding. However, when governance didn't quickly stabilize afterward, the worsening material conditions during the chaos of the warlord era played a significant role in the eventual Chinese Civil War, as Mao's ability to recognize peasant dissatisfaction and appeal to them was a significant factor in his rise. Kanos posted:I don't think acknowledging that economic framing is an integral part of fascist movements because it's effective for certain purposes is the same thing as believing said framing. The thing about this is that the American fascists aren't really doing any economic framing. Listen to the fascists speak and you'll barely hear any mention at all of economics; most of them are out there ranting and raving about destroying the wokes. Even Trump, who used to at least pay some lip service to trade policies for American workers, is out there saying he's going to make the US a Christian nationalist state now. About the only people really trying to frame the fascists as motivated by economic concerns are centrist reporters who are desperate to find a framing for them that isn't just "they're white supremacists". The MAGAs themselves are talking exclusively about social and cultural poo poo. Occasionally they'll say that the economy is bad under Biden, but they're not making it a core issue, they're just adding it to their list of "Biden Bad" talking points.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:A federal judge has reversed the previous order allowing Alexander Smirnov to remain free while awaiting trial and is now requiring him to be detained until criminal proceedings finish after his attorneys were suspected of petitioning for his release to help him flee the country (allegedly to Russia). Has Israel responded to the detention of their citizen?
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mawarannahr posted:Has Israel responded to the detention of their citizen? Doesn't look like it. He hasn't lived in Israel for a while according to the NYT and is a resident of Los Angeles. I don't see any comment or statement from Israel about him in any of the articles or a casual google search.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The FTC makes it official: It is suing to stop the Albertson's and Kroger merger. I know nobody gives a poo poo about my anecdotal derail, but Kroger delivery owns bones. They don't even have stores in FL and it beats the pants off of nearby Publix / Whole Foods / Trader Joes etc. Anything not to upset the apple cart is fine by this man.
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Scags McDouglas posted:I know nobody gives a poo poo about my anecdotal derail, but Kroger delivery owns bones. They don't even have stores in FL and it beats the pants off of nearby Publix / Whole Foods / Trader Joes etc. I don't think the merger would impact that one way or another, but also most grocery stores have been doing delivery since Covid.
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And even if the store doesn't have a branded in-house delivery services, gig apps are more than happy to have someone go shop for you
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I don't think the merger would impact that one way or another, but also most grocery stores have been doing delivery since Covid. Sorry I meant that prices could go up, so I'm glad it's not happening. Kroger's got me by the balls now that I don't have to grocery shop anymore.
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GlyphGryph posted:It's honestly great to see the FTC caring about more than just consumer prices and not relying on companies pinky promising to lower prices. They've been putting in a ton of work in a whole range of areas (given the limitations they're working under). They recently carried out an undercover phone operation to enforce the "funeral rule", which basically requires funeral homes to be honest with prices. The industry in this area is, historically, run quite a bit like used car dealerships. They hit 39 with warning letters in just the first sweep.
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NY Dems are going for a gerrymander and rejecting the bipartisan redistricting commission maps. It's not clear how far they plan to go in their gerrymander. Any map will likely be challenged and going too far could cause it to be rejected by the court under the state's competitive district constitutional amendment. https://twitter.com/politico/status/1762176021380338169 quote:ALBANY, New York — Democratic state lawmakers in New York are expected to reject a House map proposed by a bipartisan commission and back district lines they are drawing themselves, three people familiar with the discussions said Monday.
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Main Paineframe posted:The workers (not peasants) who marched for bread and land believed that increasing their group's political power (or, more accurately, reducing the overwhelmingly dominant political power of the elite classes) was the only way to make sure that all of their needs and desires - basic or not - could be met. This is really important to note, because France and Russia had had plenty of famines, economic problems, and peasant revolts before. The core factors that caused the dissatisfaction to erupt into full-scale revolution, rather than just another series of bread riots, were the obsolescence of the feudal system itself and the agitation of intellectuals inspired by Enlightenment values. That was what had changed to make revolution possible where it hadn't been before, politicizing the poorest classes and making them believe that it was even possible to have something better than the existing system. All true, but you seem to be missing the point of my posts on this topic, ie: rebutting the sweeping and unsubstantiated claim that most people throughout history have not factored their material conditions into their political behavior. Do you agree with that argument, or do you agree with my argument there are several historical examples to the contrary?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:NY Dems are going for a gerrymander and rejecting the bipartisan redistricting commission maps. Good! More dem legislatures need to lock in their seats and keep their state governments not conservative. To not do so, while republicans do the same is to commit your side to (honorably) losing.
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Majorian posted:All true, but you seem to be missing the point of my posts on this topic, ie: rebutting the sweeping and unsubstantiated claim that most people throughout history have not factored their material conditions into their political behavior. Do you agree with that argument, or do you agree with my argument there are several historical examples to the contrary? Considering the rest of that post that you did not quote was disagreeing with your argument and laying out why, I would wager that they do not agree.
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Kchama posted:Considering the rest of that post that you did not quote was disagreeing with your argument and laying out why, I would wager that they do not agree. I read that post as saying that material conditions weren't the only factors at play in how non-wealthy elites behaved during these historical events (which I obviously agree with; I never claimed otherwise); if that's not what MP intended to say, and intended to argue that material conditions were not factors at all, then I misread that post.
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Marking all the Trump voters as poor people is a very important step to blaming "the libs" for Trump and everything the Republicans have done and ever will do. Doesn't matter how many times it's shown they aren't really the poor people and most poor/minority people vote Democrat.
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socialsecurity posted:Marking all the Trump voters as poor people is a very important step to blaming "the libs" for Trump and everything the Republicans have done and ever will do. Doesn't matter how many times it's shown they aren't really the poor people and most poor/minority people vote Democrat. It is wealthy and uneducated that really tipped to Trump.
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Sooo many north Texas realtors were at Jan 6.
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Car dealership owners love Trump despite making all of their money because of government regulations. poo poo rules.
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zoux posted:Sooo many north Texas realtors were at Jan 6. It must have been a new renaissance for the tiny minority of normal ones that stayed home and then ate the available market. I'm thinking Bubba Gump shrimp co after the storm.
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zoux posted:Sooo many north Texas realtors were at Jan 6. Realty is a racket so this checks out
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Biden announced that the U.S. has been secretly negotiating a ceasefire in Gaza and expects to announce a ceasefire agreement within a week. The deal includes the release of 40 of the remaining Israeli hostages and dozens of Palestinians convicted of terrorism in Israel. The initial ceasefire would last 6 weeks and include a negotiation for a permanent cessation of hostilities. https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1762249127469998113 quote:Biden Says He Expects Gaza Cease-Fire Within a Week https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/02/26/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Feb 27, 2024 |
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Ceasefire Joe has a pretty good ring to it.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Ceasefire Joe has a pretty good ring to it. Lets actually see if it happens before taking a victory lap
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poo poo let's actually see at least six weeks pass without Israel breaking the ceasefire before we take a victory lap. and y'know, ignore how the US blocked any UN call for a ceasefire before now
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Biden announced that the U.S. has been secretly negotiating a ceasefire in Gaza and expects to announce a ceasefire agreement within a week. i can't articulate why, but this being mentioned as an aside while grabbing ice cream with a b tier late night talk show host doesn't seem appropriate
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TGLT posted:and y'know, ignore how the US blocked any UN call for a ceasefire before now If they were negotiating a private ceasefire agreement, that would probably be the reason why. It's not necessarily a good reason, depending on what the private agreement actually is, but it does indicate that there was some coherent intention behind that.
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Rand Brittain posted:If they were negotiating a private ceasefire agreement, that would probably be the reason why. It's not because they were negotiating a private ceasefire. The stated reason was because the resolution did not call for the release of all hostages, but this alleged ceasefire deal doesn't result in all the hostages being released either.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Biden announced that the U.S. has been secretly negotiating a ceasefire in Gaza and expects to announce a ceasefire agreement within a week. Once again, Biden showing that things can be accomplished behind the scenes. So much for Biden's "hardline Zionist" stance that I had to argue against earlier ITT
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Kalit posted:Once again, Biden showing that things can be accomplished behind the scenes. So much for Biden's "hardline Zionist" stance that I had to argue against earlier ITT Nixon's Vietnam peace negotiations also showed what could be accomplished behind the scenes.
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