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The only way consoles hold back game development is maybe with graphics and graphics are loving dumb now. Hey how about instead of a photorealistic field you make a fun game instead? This stupid obsession with "ooh nooo we need all the bestest graphics to enjoy an games and those big meanies consoles are ruining it" is what's actually holding back games. Games that try and sell because "woah look at that grafix" are bad and a symptom of bad game world ecosystem (the world). Just make fun games without jerking off over the pixels jfc. Some loving Star Citizen brain poison to require visual perfection and realistic fidelity over a fun game, gently caress that right off.
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I haven't thought about star citizen in a long time and I just did a lol because holy gently caress that thing has been in development for 14 years and still doesn't even have an alpha build, just a bunch of 'modules' of parts of the game you can play AFAICT.
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Read that as As Far As I Care To Know at first and thought, yeah, thats about as much star citizen knowledge as anyone needs
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Star Citizens quest for fidelity has made them a game that looks as bad as Starfield but at much greater expense.
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Vampire Panties posted:Honestly, unless you want to play FPS games, even an 8 year old laptop can do some decent gaming. I've been working off a Surface Pro 4 for a few months now, and I have to play Dark Souls in 720p but its been fine? yeah this is also true you only need a "current gen" gaming pc if you wanna keep up with trends and play the big newly released games that your friends are talking about if you just wanna play good games there's an ocean out there. and then there are low spec games releasing even now, like the millions of goons who have apparently fallen in love with balatro
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Feb 27, 2024 03:02
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Khanstant posted:Easy, they tried putting it on console and it came out console quality. Plus people's hardware was so crappy the game had to run at a tiny resolution since they couldn't fit it all on one screen. The 4 most popular GPUs on steam bring the kind of performance you could in 2016. The PS5 is like twice that fast.
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Feb 27, 2024 03:21
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i don't think anything holds consoles or PC games back uh ever how about that
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Feb 27, 2024 03:25
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The worst thing about devs designing games for consoles first isn't the graphical limitations, it's the godawful UI that has me clicking on giant square buttons and long lists of tabs that each take up 10% of the screen. Compare Morrowind's UI to Oblivion's. gently caress that poo poo, I will never forgive the consoles for this.
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Feb 27, 2024 03:30
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I like the console trend of having to hold x for a full second to select something instead of just pressing x. Rely says a lot about console players!!
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Feb 27, 2024 03:38
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Internet Old One posted:The 4 most popular GPUs on steam bring the kind of performance you could in 2016. The PS5 is like twice that fast. Off the shelf hardware includes those PC GPUs. The worst part is even if you spring for a real computer the team of eggheads you need to run it will only let you play chess.
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Feb 27, 2024 04:40
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Khanstant posted:Star Citizens quest for fidelity has made them a game about that...
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*just sitting at home, teeth clenched thinking about console players
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MSPain posted:about that... In a few more few years he will release Star Citizen, signed R Mutt. The question and tension over what is or isn't a game will be the real star.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:*just sitting at home, teeth clenched thinking about console players Sitting at my desk. Alone. In the dark.
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Khanstant posted:Get a better chair. If going from chair to couch is a noticeable upgrade then you've got a bad chair and of you're going to sit in it all day whether you want to or not, might as well make it a place you'd always be happy to sit. Bonus if you can make work pay for it. It sounds like you need a better couch. I have an Aeron at home, completely dialed in how I want it, and it is by far the most comfortable office chair I have ever sat in, but it’s not nearly as comfortable as a nice couch.
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I don't think I've ever sat on the couches we have now, they look much nicer than the old ones though.
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Khanstant posted:I don't think I've ever sat on the couches we have now, they look much nicer than the old ones though. Goons say the strangest things *laugh track*
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Feb 27, 2024 07:39
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They say PC expensive but you need a couch to play on a console
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syntaxfunction posted:The only way consoles hold back game development is maybe with graphics and graphics are loving dumb now. Hey how about instead of a photorealistic field you make a fun game instead? This stupid obsession with "ooh nooo we need all the bestest graphics to enjoy an games and those big meanies consoles are ruining it" is what's actually holding back games. Consoles held back gaming for a period from like 2002 - 2008, at best.
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Vic posted:They say PC expensive but you need a couch to play on a console Couch needs a house to go in my friend
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Feb 27, 2024 08:45
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I mostly play games on a Game Gear in a dumpster full of rotten shrimp husks and biscuits. frankly I don't see why people feel the need to play games in another way.
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Devils Affricate posted:The worst thing about devs designing games for consoles first isn't the graphical limitations, it's the godawful UI that has me clicking on giant square buttons and long lists of tabs that each take up 10% of the screen. Compare Morrowind's UI to Oblivion's. gently caress that poo poo, I will never forgive the consoles for this. Morrowind on XBox had a better UI than PC (I would know I play(ed) both extensively) (And they’re almost identical anyway). Terrible modern UIs like Skyrim have nothing to do with console/PC and everything to do with the same godawful iPhone derived aesthetics that have taken over literally every piece of tech UI, not just videogames.
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at least old iphone ui had drop shadows around buttons and poo poo so they clearly stood out from each other and the background. tech ui nowadays has overcorrected from the ugly iphone skeuomorphism poo poo and is now obsessed with the sleek looking "flat ui" (like ms's windows phone / windows 8 design language or goog's material UI) where things just become less usable for 0 benefit in the interest of fashion
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:at least old iphone ui had drop shadows around buttons and poo poo so they clearly stood out from each other and the background. It’s not just fashion, stuff like the Xbone and post-blades 360 UIs were purposely designed to make it difficult and confusing to just turn on the system and play the game you you turned it on for, in order to maximize the amount of on-screen ads and opportunities for online purchases you saw.
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galagazombie posted:Morrowind on XBox had a better UI than PC (I would know I play(ed) both extensively) (And they’re almost identical anyway). What the gently caress is this madness Morrowind UI on PC was the best UI from any RPG ever. It was basically Windows. You could drag and drop, you could resize, you could move windows around. It was perfection. You could view your entire inventory in one window if you wanted to. Are you thinking of Oblivion? Oblivion had a garbage UI for PC because it was meant to be played on a console with a lovely resolution you could see from across the room. My fuckin inventory took up the entire screen and could only show all of five items at one time. credburn fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Feb 27, 2024 |
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People who like and people who dislike Morrowind UI are both correct. Baldur's Gate 3 is a good example and case study on differences between a gamepad and kbm UI and how doing both requires a separate one for each control method. Most games today just map the gamepad UI to kbm so you're doing button combos instead of pushing a dedicated button which keyboards are notorious for having plenty of.
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The Morrowind UI was great and the Xbox version of it was better because the interface was tabbed, removing the need to manage the windows and inventory only required a button press to perform actions instead of needing to drag poo poo around. It's kind of shocking how well it works, I say that as someone who strongly prefers keyboard & mouse for input.
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Fuckin hell, is the monthly debate almost done?
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No, because I havent' talked about how many hours I sunk into Morrowind for the original Xbox yet never finished it meaning the only Elder Scrolls game I actually finished was Oblivion which is embarrassing.
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Woke up this morning kicking my blanket off in pure rage that people buy and enjoy consoles
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Woke up this morning kicking my blanket off in pure rage that people buy and enjoy consoles Wait til you find out that people do/don't like Dark Souls on those consoles!
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Seething in rage that people buy miniature versions of consoles to play thirty year old games when they could play them all for free on a PC
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Vampire Panties posted:Seething in rage that people buy miniature versions of consoles to play thirty year old games when they could play them all for free on a PC snes mini is cool looking though
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:you don't have to keep up unless you're a broke brained "pc master race" graphics-card-review youtuber who can't enjoy pressing butan with less than 200fps or if there's a non-raytraced shadow on screen I don't disagree, but there are practical concerns - a console goes under my TV and also serves a a blu-ray player and for watching streaming. A PC would either go on our living room desk (which we use for things including soldering and making art), or in the bedroom, basically locking it out of use when someone wants to sleep, and I do enjoy the occasional 2am game of Elden Ring as a treat. That said, I've considered a PC for music production, so I'd use it for gaming if I had it as it taxes my slightly aging laptop a bit. I think the distinction of being at the computer or at the TV is enough for some people. I'm not implying either is correct, just that the cultures are slightly different. It's typically fairly easy to sell a console when console cycles change too, but maybe that's true of PCs in ways I'm ignorant of. I would say the closer they get (fewer couch multiplayer games, less emphasis on swappable physical releases), the less appeal consoles have going forward and Demons Souls was probably the only factor in me wanting a PS5, which was ultimately a 40th birthday gift.
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Streaming got so good you get single digit milisecond latency no matter where you place the PC box in your house FYI. Just connect the tv to your home network.
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Vic posted:Streaming got so good you get single digit milisecond latency no matter where you place the PC box in your house FYI. Just connect the tv to your home network. Also true! This is years away, but next time I look a console upgrade, it probably wouldn't be a console at all, unless there was a killer exclusive. My friends, if they play games at all (or the same games as me) are scattered across all different platforms too.
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Consoles are great for dad's and the unemployed
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with PC games. PC Gamers, on the other hand...
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PC games are, like, clicking on spreadsheets about Ancient Rome and new wave sci-fi adventure games made by doughy goatee guys who are now pedophiles and/or fascists. Console games are anime, propagana or sometimes anime propaganda.
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