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Boatswain
May 29, 2012
Yesterday I played Casino Mage and discovered discounted Jive Insect and Criminal Lineup and OTK'd my opponent from nearly full health after clearing their board:

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mcbexx
Jul 4, 2004

British dentistry is
not on trial here!



My highlight today: A sludge lock who for some reason also ran Sargeras. I reno'd his board and he started to spam "Thank you" before slamming said Sargeras onto his 1-slot board. Whoops, no portal. Shame concede.

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


Strawberry Panda posted:

It's funny how I'll see some cards a ton and never really look at them. Then one day I'll finally zoom in and see what's happening in the art and it'll be completely different then what my mind put together.

I still can't see anything other than a weird chicken when looking at Sylvanas

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

mcbexx posted:

My highlight today: A sludge lock who for some reason also ran Sargeras. I reno'd his board and he started to spam "Thank you" before slamming said Sargeras onto his 1-slot board. Whoops, no portal. Shame concede.

A bunch of sludge warlocks started running Sargeras and Symphony of Sins as a way to improve the unfavorable Warrior matchup

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
This 10 year anniversary event is pretty :effort:

You’d think they’d at least give out a few packs

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


Strawberry Panda posted:

It's funny how I'll see some cards a ton and never really look at them. Then one day I'll finally zoom in and see what's happening in the art and it'll be completely different then what my mind put together.

for years I parsed zilliax as kinda looking like some sort of floating gunship thing vaguely shaped like a hammerhead shark's, uh, head, with armaments hanging down below it. but he's actually just a humanoid robot with a sideways and weirdly tubular upper body and a teeny-weeny lil' head on top

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

RatHat posted:

This 10 year anniversary event is pretty :effort:

You’d think they’d at least give out a few packs

These are pretty loving sad rewards and you won't even be able to dust them. Yay!

Jolly Jumbuck
Mar 14, 2006

Cats like optical fibers.

Desert Bus posted:

I am so loving tired of Time Warp Mages. they need to nerf that or Rommath or the 4 spell cost that gives you copies?

https://hsreplay.net/replay/YX98dny5GbJfqv3ZftNnE2

With the Harth Stonebrew card, they implemented a nice restrictive "mechanic" where an effect is limited to once a game. Something like that would be great for a few cards like that. Or something to prevent recursion of broken effects.

For example, Ice Block could be "if your hero takes fatal damage and wasn't immune on your last turn...". Or Time Warp could say "If it was your opponent's turn last turn, you take an extra turn". Stuff like that to keep the spirits of the cards but prevent abuse.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

These bots love playing Stranglethorn Tiger on turn 6

fanny packrat
Mar 24, 2018
Spell DH is very fun right now. Play Jotun, go face. Hope mages and rogues don't generate a thousand objections.

### jotun spell
# Class: Demon Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Wolf
#
# 2x (0) Dispose of Evidence
# 2x (1) Burning Heart
# 2x (1) Illidari Studies
# 2x (1) Taste of Chaos
# 2x (1) Unleash Fel
# 2x (2) Chaos Strike
# 2x (2) Mark of Scorn
# 1x (2) Quick Pick
# 1x (3) Silvermoon Arcanist
# 2x (3) Weight of the World
# 2x (4) Fan the Hammer
# 2x (4) Fel'dorei Warband
# 1x (4) Going Down Swinging
# 1x (4) Ignis, the Eternal Flame
# 1x (4) Souleater's Scythe
# 2x (5) Deal with a Devil
# 1x (5) Jotun, the Eternal
# 2x (5) Momentum
#
AAECAZWrBAaVkgWdpAX3wwXG+QXYgQbungYMtp8EpeIEhpIFiZIFi5IFkJIFsvUF4fgFxfkFpIEGipAG6Z4GAAA=
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

bravesword
Apr 13, 2012

Silent Protagonist
Looking at the new event quests got me thinking about the history of Hearthstone, so I decided to rank the Hearthstone years.

8) Gryphon (2021)

The absolute nadir, the only one that was bad enough to make me step away from the game for an extended period. Barrens was all right, but starting with Stormwind the design ethos of “I’ve got a cool thing I want to do and my opponent’s job is to sit there and politely applaud while I do it” completely took over the game. A format totally about ignoring your opponent and playing solitaire. Alterac Valley remains the only set I completely skipped until the format rotated and I got back into the game. Looking through these three sets is like a who’s who of cards I can’t believe they thought it was okay to print. If it gets this bad again, I’m done.

Also, it wouldn’t have mattered if the gameplay was better, but I found the Warcraft nostalgia theming exceptionally boring, and the mercenaries were way too generic to carry a whole year of cards.

7) Raven (2018)

It’s interesting how different the two worst years were from each other — Gryphon was a high-power format with a lot of flash, while Raven was extremely low-power with on-rails deckbuilding and meat-and-potatoes gameplay. It just goes to show that power level doesn’t completely determine if a format is good or bad.

Raven was dominated by Genn and Baku, which were two of the worst mistakes ever printed. They combined an extreme deck building restriction with a consistent payoff that was nonetheless extremely boring with little strategic variety, and since everything else going on was so weak, they overwhelmed every other deck. Very few fond memories of this format; I rank it ahead of Gryphon only because you usually at least got to play your cards rather than watch your opponent have fun.

6) Kraken (2016)

Honestly, I think Gryphon and Raven were the only truly bad Hearthstone years. Everything else is okay at worst.

Kraken was the first Standard year and it was clear they were still working out the best way to manage it, as class balance was extremely wonky this year. Mostly I remember it for two decks — Aggro Shaman during Karazhan and Jade Druid during Gadgetzan — being allowed to run rampant for months on end. This was back when Blizzard still wanted the cards to have a feeling of permanence and were reluctant to do nerfs, but it meant you got to face the overtuned decks every other game while they were agonizing over what to do.

5) Wolf (2023)

…But maybe I’m a big ol’ hypocrite, because my big criticism of this past year is that they’ve been too aggressive with nerfs, too willing to immediately kill cards based on player sentiment rather than letting the meta settle. Some of these murders I was happy to see (they could price Dew Process at ten mana and I’d buy them a drink) but others felt premature or unnecessarily punitive. The actual sets were mostly fine this year (although some specific class directions were head-scratchers), but they could never resist the urge to tinker.

4) Mammoth (2017)

“Classic Hearthstone” at its peak, in my mind. Good class diversity and a lot of fun individual decks and cards. I could push it higher, but the emergence of the deeply unfun Cube Warlock deck right at the end of the year soured a lot of my memories of the format.

3) Hydra (2022)

Probably my single favorite Standard format of all time was Castle Nathria. I played so much of that format, and it was such a blast — neither too fast nor too slow; the board was important but not so much so that you were doomed if you fell behind; enough lethality that long games didn’t turn into value grinds but not so much that the entire rest of the game felt pointless. I’d put it at number one if March of the Lich King didn’t suck so much, but alas.

2) Phoenix (2020)

Demon Hunter was laughably overpowered right out of the gate, but after they got it under control the rest of the year was really solid. Scholomance and Darkmoon Faire were both great sets, and there was good deck diversity all around. This was the first year I could remember Blizzard nerfing something and thinking it seemed unnecessary, because even the most powerful cards and decks didn’t bother me that much.

1) Dragon (2019)

Nobody seems to talk about Dragon as a great Hearthstone year, but it’s an easy #1 for me. Three great sets, very strong balance beginning to end, every class got something cool to do. It even had fun theming and good PVE content. I think the most annoying deck was, like, Quest Priest? Just a very fun format to play over and over.

I guess my controversial Hearthstone opinion is that, Gryphon aside, the second half of Hearthstone’s lifespan was way better than its first. Also, if you want a good year, cold-blooded and scaly; if you want a bad one, feathers.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Agreed with Dragon and Phoenix being a standout couple of years. Rise of Shadows, Scholomance, and Darkmoon are three of my very favorite sets. Galakrond was imo just OK even though it produced one of my favorite decks (dragon hunter)

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
I hope Pirate Warrior is becoming the Wild climbing deck of choice because dropping Reno the turn after they play Rokara makes me so happy

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Julio Cruz posted:

I hope Pirate Warrior is becoming the Wild climbing deck of choice because dropping Reno the turn after they play Rokara makes me so happy

It seems to be becoming more popular but the Wild meta has already dealt with one wave of it.

The first time you get an infection you learn how to stave it off. The second time it's far less dangerous.

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP
I got the 'Watch a friend win a game or bounty' quest. CMBrick#1242 if anyone wants to help me with it.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
love when I play Zephrys leaving me with 3 mana and it gives me Hex to deal with Aman’Thul SI:7 Agent to kill a 4/2

fanny packrat
Mar 24, 2018

Strawberry Panda posted:

I got the 'Watch a friend win a game or bounty' quest. CMBrick#1242 if anyone wants to help me with it.

Which server? Just tried to add on NA. I have a few minutes to win a game and help you out.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

fanny packrat posted:

Which server? Just tried to add on NA. I have a few minutes to win a game and help you out.

I got the quest, they're on NA and a good add if you like to watch Standard games you don't understand. Maybe better if you do? And are usually down for rando fun games. Solid Goon offsite.

Boatswain
May 29, 2012


Best username yet (also works on Grindr I would think).

bravesword
Apr 13, 2012

Silent Protagonist
Is it just me or is Flash Sale, like, incredibly good?

It’s basically pre-nerf Herald of Nature with no deckbuilding requirements, in a class that can easily flood the board.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

bravesword posted:

Is it just me or is Flash Sale, like, incredibly good?

It’s basically pre-nerf Herald of Nature with no deckbuilding requirements, in a class that can easily flood the board.

Two big differences:

The first is the mana cost. 4 mana vs 3 mana is a pretty big deal, especially for aggressive cards that want to leverage a wide board.

The second is more unique to paladin, which is that because so many of their small efficient minions have divine shield, they actually prefer to take attack buffs rather than health buffs. It's a decent card but I certainly wouldn't consider it broken or anything. I think the best comparison card is Crusader Aura, which I think is still the stronger choice

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

imo the strongest card so far is the warrior 2 mana draw two taunts card

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrkQlWeVK2M

Can’t believe I’m saying this but the upcoming shaman set looks insanely strong and fun. Hagatha with the shudderblock battlecries has to enable some broken stuff.

Firebert fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Mar 2, 2024

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
I LOVE cards that buff your whole hand and deck and Wish upon a star yesss.

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

control shaman is back yessssssss

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.
Is this correct? It felt wrong…

Warlock has a 1/1, plays the ‘Gain +3/+3 until next turn’. I do 3 damage to it, so it’s 4/1. Next turn, it returns to 1/1 rather than die? I get both interpretations of the effect are possible, just that doesn’t seem to work the way it describes it.

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes

Shockeh posted:

Is this correct? It felt wrong…

Warlock has a 1/1, plays the ‘Gain +3/+3 until next turn’. I do 3 damage to it, so it’s 4/1. Next turn, it returns to 1/1 rather than die? I get both interpretations of the effect are possible, just that doesn’t seem to work the way it describes it.

it's a bit awkward but I find it easier to remember if I think of the effect ending as "setting the max health back to what it originally was" since max health and current health are two separate things that hearthstone tracks

bravesword
Apr 13, 2012

Silent Protagonist

Shockeh posted:

Is this correct? It felt wrong…

Warlock has a 1/1, plays the ‘Gain +3/+3 until next turn’. I do 3 damage to it, so it’s 4/1. Next turn, it returns to 1/1 rather than die? I get both interpretations of the effect are possible, just that doesn’t seem to work the way it describes it.

This is the kind of thing that confuses you if you’ve played other card games, because Magic does it one way and Hearthstone does it the other. Back in vanilla I remember being baffled that killing my opponent’s Stormwind Champion didn’t kill their damaged 2/1. (I also suspect this is the reason Hearthstone doesn’t do much in the way of temporary or conditional health buffs anymore.)

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
to be fair (tm), the reason mtg has it different is because mtg doesn't have persistent damage between turns as a base rule where hearthstone does. if you have a creature with, like, seven toughness in mtg and five damage marked (because it blocked that turn), you can then give it -3/-3 with a spell and it'll suddenly have more damage marked than it has toughness and it'll die.

kater
Nov 16, 2010

I mean giving something +3/+3 till next turn and then doing three damage to it also won’t kill it in magic. Unless you mean giving something +3/+3 and then doing three damage to it but faster, then it’s dead.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Ran into this tip earlier on Android, lol

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Wish the devs had unnerfed Denathrius for the last few weeks of his standard life. Card was taken from us too soon

bravesword
Apr 13, 2012

Silent Protagonist
He will almost certainly be unnerfed with the next patch, and we'll have a few days with him at least.

I predict the following reverts with the Whizbang's Workshop patch:

Sunken City:
Multi-Strike
Predation
Lady S'theno
Herald of Nature
Miracle Growth
Spitelash Siren
Lightray
The Garden's Grace
Shattershambler
From the Depths
Nellie, the Great Thresher
Pufferfist

Castle Nathria:
Sinful Brand (partial?)
Relic of Dimensions
Wildseeds (partial?)
Boon of the Ascended
Necrolord Draka
Scribbling Stenographer
Vile Library
Sire Denathrius

March of the Lich King:
Blightfang
Construct Quarter (partial?)
Shockspitter (partial?)
Halduron Brightwing
Hope of Quel'Thalas
Faithful Companions
Arcane Wyrm
Feast and Famine
The Purator
Thori'belore

There's some other stuff that they could conceivably revert, but that I don't feel as confident about, like Astalor and Sinstone Graveyard. Then there's stuff like The Jailer and Dew Process that are too spicy even for Wild, so they'll probably get left alone.

The big wild card, to me, is Prince Renathal. He's being played in Wild as-is, so there's no real reason to revert him, but I could see them do it anyway. The other major one is Thaddius, Monstrosity. I expect they'll do something with him before he rotates, but I have no idea what.

Chernabog
Apr 16, 2007



I hope they unnerf renathal.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
does Owlonius' double spell damage bonus stack? because if so that's going to be incredible with Colifero

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
It says double so it should

Szarrukin
Sep 29, 2021
I lost 10 games in a row today. It's amazing that after 7 years of playing my skill still has negative values.

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]
new expansion is just a power creeped version of Witchwood and Boomsday Project

bravesword
Apr 13, 2012

Silent Protagonist
Demon Hunter seems like it’s going to be real bad after rotation. The weapon is strong, and I think the Spellstone is actually quite good, but the rest of it seems like generic filler. How do you settle on Big Demons as the expansion archetype and only print an eight-mana Hellfire to go with it?

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Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


DH is definitely deadzo with these cards.

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