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Air Skwirl posted:If you live in America they own most grocery stores, and might literally own all of them soon. Kroger owns 5.6% of grocery market share in the U.S. If they get their merger approved, they will own about 11.3%. They are the largest national chain by far, but there are a large amount of local and regional grocery stores in the U.S. In some specific areas, Kroger and Albertson's might represent most of the grocery stores in an area, but they aren't anywhere close to owning almost every grocery store.
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Kroger sounds suspiciously German. I expect nativist anti-German riots to break out any day now.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:14
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saintonan posted:There are many strong regional chains that are not Kroger's or Albertsons. Acme (albertsons brand) is maybe 4th on my list of chioces around here. 3rd if im feeling lazy about going to the Wegmans.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:59
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Hopefully the merger is blocked because albertsons sucks in general
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Phlegmish posted:Kroger sounds suspiciously German. I expect nativist anti-German riots to break out any day now. German name, but many generation American. The original Kroger was involved in inventing the concept of self-checkout in the late 1800's. Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:Acme (albertsons brand) is maybe 4th on my list of chioces around here. 3rd if im feeling lazy about going to the Wegmans. Wegman's is a little pricey, but their bakery/exclusive items/deli owns bones. I'm sad I don't have one near me anymore. Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:Hopefully the merger is blocked because albertsons sucks in general The merger would effectively end Albertson's and have it taken over by Kroger, so you should be cheering on the merger!
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Feb 27, 2024 16:00
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Phlegmish posted:Kroger sounds suspiciously German. I expect nativist anti-German riots to break out any day now. We got those out of our system in the 1850s
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Feb 27, 2024 16:24
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1860s at least, surely
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Feb 27, 2024 16:32
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Don't forget liberty dogs 
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Feb 27, 2024 16:37
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The other big player is called Wegmans? Truly, the United States has been taken over by the Germans, and they don't even care. Wake up, sheeple. I have already started assembling Know Nothings in the streets of Philadelphia and we are preparing to march on Germantown.
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Feb 27, 2024 16:44
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Phlegmish posted:The other big player is called Wegmans? Truly, the United States has been taken over by the Germans, and they don't even care. Wake up, sheeple. I have already started assembling Know Nothings in the streets of Philadelphia and we are preparing to march on Germantown. Wegmans isn't very big, but they have recently been expanding into high-profile North East markets (as opposed to their original market of Rochester, NY). Map, thanks to Wikipedia: 
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Feb 27, 2024 16:47
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After beating Walmart to the curb at home, German supermarket chains have been expanding in the USA. Lidl, Aldi, Trader Joe's (the other Aldi). They are being hailed as liberators from the dictate of incumbent chains.
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Feb 27, 2024 16:50
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anyway the grocery store wars are nothing compared to the food mart wars code:
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Feb 27, 2024 16:54
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Phlegmish posted:The other big player is called Wegmans? Truly, the United States has been taken over by the Germans, and they don't even care. Wake up, sheeple. I have already started assembling Know Nothings in the streets of Philadelphia and we are preparing to march on Germantown. Wal-Mart, Target, and Costco are technically the largest "grocery stores" in America, but they aren't counted as "grocery stores" legally.
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Feb 27, 2024 16:57
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I see Sheetz has chosen the "let's put one token on every part of the board" strategy, let's see how it works out for them
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Feb 27, 2024 16:58
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WinCo or bust
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Platystemon posted:
steinrokkan posted:I see Sheetz has chosen the "let's put one token on every part of the board" strategy, let's see how it works out for them
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Feb 27, 2024 17:29
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Everywhere I’ve lived has some local chain that is considered far nicer to shop at and often work for than Walmart, Target, or the other “big” stores like Kroger’s. Like HEB and United/Market Street in Texas or Publix In Florida
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Feb 27, 2024 19:11
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It used to be that a grocery store taking up 13% of the marketshare of just one city would provoke the government into bringing the hammer of god of antitrust down on them, it's good that the FTC is starting to push back on mergers, and they should look into breaking up some companies. Also it sucks that Albertsons ended up the top name of the Safeway/Jewel-Osco/Acme Markets/Tom Thumb/United Supermarkets/Vons/Shaws katamari ball. There was an Albertsons around here once, they sucked and left decades ago and got replaced by a Neighborhood Walmart (Walmart's weird non-big-box grocery branch). Kroger kinda gives me a bad vibe, although they have a better selection for cheeses and international foods. They're also diversified into big-box stores, which can be confusing. Wikipedia lists a good amount of recent controversies about them as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroger#Controversies https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/fred-meyer-qfc-illegally-barred-blm-pins-at-work-judge-rules/ Phlegmish posted:Kroger sounds suspiciously German. I expect nativist anti-German riots to break out any day now. There's an actually German grocery store in the US that has been aggressively expanding lately if you wanna get your hackles up about that. I'm sure they have an overly long and threatening sounding name for their expansion plan. Right now they're in the process of buying the dying Winn-Dixie chain. https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2024/01/30/with-winn-dixie-sale-to-aldi-expected-to-close-stores-could-change-in-2024/71678318007/ An actually Dutch company, Ahold Delhaize, has successfully conquered a major chunk of US Grocery stores with Stop&Shop, Food Lion, and Hannaford. Nissin Cup Nudist posted:WinCo or bust Winco sounds pretty cool on the politics and labor side of things, but the nearest store is too far away to be convenient. soviet elsa posted:Everywhere I’ve lived has some local chain that is considered far nicer to shop at and often work for than Walmart, Target, or the other “big” stores like Kroger’s. Like HEB and United/Market Street in Texas or Publix In Florida Market Street is neat, but they're a subsidiary of the Safeway katamari.
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Feb 27, 2024 19:37
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That's kind of funny, both Aldi and Delhaize are big in Belgium as well. In fact, I always sort of assumed Delhaize was Belgian to begin with. e: it is! They started out in Wallonia in 1867, but quickly moved their center of operations to Brussels. e2: but Ahold was Dutch, so I guess it's now a proper multinational Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Feb 27, 2024 |
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Feb 27, 2024 19:42
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Ahold also used to own Tops, the other Western New York-based grocery chain (from Buffalo), though looks like they don't any more.
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Feb 27, 2024 19:55
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SlothfulCobra posted:Market Street is neat, but they're a subsidiary of the Safeway katamari. Is there a handy way of finding out what chains in my area are part of the same conglomerate?
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Feb 27, 2024 20:03
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aldi just left denmark last year, said they couldnt turn a profit
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Feb 27, 2024 21:12
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Kroger closed every single one of their grocery stores in North Carolina a few years ago, because the competition was too tough here lmao Well they bought Harris Teeter and decided to just stick with that because rebranding the Teeters to Kroger's would cost them.
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Feb 27, 2024 21:14
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socialsecurity posted:Well they bought Harris Teeter and decided to just stick with that because rebranding the Teeters to Kroger's would cost them.
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Feb 27, 2024 21:24
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:They are different kinds of stores though - Harris Teeter is a pricier, "well off suburb" type of grocery store, while Kroger was more bargain bin. At least in the Raleigh area. They closed incredibly busy stores that do not have a Harris Teeter nearby, so they literally decided to throw money out of the window. THEN they spite held onto the property because a competitor (Publix, I think) wanted to buy the spot to open up a store. Yeah the bargain bin market is owned by Food Lion out here, Kroger exists in a more middle space that just did not have a good market out here. Also there's a HT like every mile in Raleigh, I was actually working for HT corporate when the merger happened and was part of the push to cover each area as much as possible.
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Feb 27, 2024 21:29
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SlothfulCobra posted:An actually Dutch company, Ahold Delhaize, has successfully conquered a major chunk of US Grocery stores with Stop&Shop, Food Lion, and Hannaford.
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Feb 27, 2024 21:35
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The merger would effectively end Albertson's and have it taken over by Kroger, so you should be cheering on the merger!  This is why it was great for Mcdonnel-Douglas haters when they merged with Boeing. Antigravitas posted:After beating Walmart to the curb at home, German supermarket chains have been expanding in the USA. Lidl, Aldi, Trader Joe's (the other Aldi). They are being hailed as liberators from the dictate of incumbent chains. Trader Joe’s is currently making a play to liberate America from the National Labor Relations Board.
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Feb 27, 2024 21:36
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Phlegmish posted:That's kind of funny, both Aldi and Delhaize are big in Belgium as well. In fact, I always sort of assumed Delhaize was Belgian to begin with. I think to be proper multinational, you need to be in at least two countries, not one country and a weird buffer zone
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socialsecurity posted:Yeah the bargain bin market is owned by Food Lion out here, Kroger exists in a more middle space that just did not have a good market out here. Also there's a HT like every mile in Raleigh, I was actually working for HT corporate when the merger happened and was part of the push to cover each area as much as possible.
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Feb 27, 2024 21:44
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Platystemon posted:Trader Joe’s is currently making a play to liberate America from the National Labor Relations Board. I really hate this as they are a pretty good place shop at and then they pull poo poo like this.
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Carthag Tuek posted:aldi just left denmark last year, said they couldnt turn a profit BonHair posted:I think to be proper multinational, you need to be in at least two countries, not one country and a weird buffer zone
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Carthag Tuek posted:aldi just left denmark last year, said they couldnt turn a profit I was in Copenhagen last year and my only shop choices seemed to be either an Aldi Nord or the most expensive supermarket I had ever been in. I think it was called føtex? My sympathies for the people of Denmark.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I was in Copenhagen last year and my only shop choices seemed to be either an Aldi Nord or the most expensive supermarket I had ever been in. I think it was called føtex? My sympathies for the people of Denmark. The consistently cheap chain is a Norwegian one.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I was in Copenhagen last year and my only shop choices seemed to be either an Aldi Nord or the most expensive supermarket I had ever been in. I think it was called føtex? My sympathies for the people of Denmark. If you're in Zurich before the end of the year, go to Jelmoli's grocery store. If not, then next time in a major Swiss city go to the Globus grocery store. Especially their produce section is crazy, like $11/kg potatoes. Some of them are unusual varietals that you can't get anywhere else, but even a bog standard potato will be like $7/kg.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:This happened not long after I moved and no longer had easy access to an Aldi. I think I was single-handedly keeping them afloat buying the best muesli around, which was also somehow half the price of regular muesli. yeah i went to my local aldi a lot but then i got lazy and went to fakta & now theyre gone im sorry ;_;
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Saladman posted:If you're in Zurich before the end of the year, go to Jelmoli's grocery store. If not, then next time in a major Swiss city go to the Globus grocery store. Especially their produce section is crazy, like $11/kg potatoes. Some of them are unusual varietals that you can't get anywhere else, but even a bog standard potato will be like $7/kg. Globus isn’t a grocery store though, it’s a Bloomingdale’s level department store, and just like many European department stores it has a food section focused on luxury goods, imports, etc. Nobody in Switzerland does their big weekly shop at Globus. Migros and Coop are expensive enough for that.
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Feb 28, 2024 09:29
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Platystemon posted:
It's what yanks crave.
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Feb 28, 2024 09:33
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:Globus isn’t a grocery store though, it’s a Bloomingdale’s level department store, and just like many European department stores it has a food section focused on luxury goods, imports, etc. Nobody in Switzerland does their big weekly shop at Globus. Migros and Coop are expensive enough for that. Well, no one does because they’re crazy expensive - but they do sell all the same standard food you can get in a normal grocery store. You can buy rice and beans and burrito rolls and chicken and Brie there or whatever. I have seen a handful of people in there doing their normal shopping (old and obviously very rich people) but yeah 98% of people are just going there for some particular sauce or spice or unusual imported fruit.
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Feb 28, 2024 11:57
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:Globus isn’t a grocery store though, it’s a Bloomingdale’s level department store, and just like many European department stores it has a food section focused on luxury goods, imports, etc. Nobody in Switzerland does their big weekly shop at Globus. Migros and Coop are expensive enough for that. Wait Globus is too expensive for the Swiss!? I've been interchangeably buying groceries there with the other supermarket chains and it doesn't feel significantly more expensive, other than maybe not having as many large sales
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Carthag Tuek posted:aldi just left denmark last year, said they couldnt turn a profit Danish Aldi was not nearly cheap enough to justify how crap they were and their direct competitors in the "vaguely German discount brands" (Lidl) - though a bit more expensive - was consistently a LOT nicer.
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