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This is an easy denial, right? Or do they make exceptions for large judgements like this?
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Does he think this is a business deal where if he negotiates and holds out long enough the court will get desperate and lower their offer?
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Feb 28, 2024 19:04
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Guess the sneakers didn't sell as well as he'd hoped.
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Feb 28, 2024 19:06
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Anyone have a link to the filing? Curious if it’s signed by Habba.
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Feb 28, 2024 19:13
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haveblue posted:Does he think this is a business deal where if he negotiates and holds out long enough the court will get desperate and lower their offer? Truly the mind of Trump works in mysterious ways Fork of Unknown Origins posted:This is an easy denial, right? Or do they make exceptions for large judgements like this? Don't know why they would entertain this, they already have a monitor for his finances
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Feb 28, 2024 19:22
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Lmao he 10,000% does not have the money and they are gonna seize his poo poo. Also he offered, but didn't post said bond, so he might not even have the 100 mill and is hoping to just delay with this some how.
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Feb 28, 2024 19:32
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Tesseraction posted:Guess the sneakers didn't sell as well as he'd hoped. Pants Donkey fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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Feb 28, 2024 19:46
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haveblue posted:Does he think this is a business deal where if he negotiates and holds out long enough the court will get desperate and lower their offer? Art of the Deal, Baby! Offer them 100 Mil, and they'll have to settle for that. Then don't pay that, but offer them 80 mil out of the 100 mil. Then you don't even have to appeal to lower the fine, since they technically accepted tbe lower ammount to stop the judgment being inacted. One weird trick, Judges hate it when litigants do this to civil judgments!
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Feb 28, 2024 19:47
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Pants Donkey posted:It’s Trump, so him getting his rear end saved by a grift shoe sale at the last minute, only to decide he’s rather keep the money and try to bullshit his way out of the fine is entirely within his MO. That toilet picture from the documents case recreated but with boxes full of grifted sneaker money instead of classified docs.
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Feb 28, 2024 19:47
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https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1762906260322562233
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Feb 28, 2024 19:58
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"But Your Honor, my client is suffering consequences for his actions!"
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Feb 28, 2024 20:00
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haveblue posted:Does he think this is a business deal where if he negotiates and holds out long enough the court will get desperate and lower their offer?  : "Listen, I can't do $450 million, but how does a cool $100 million sound? What do you say to that?" : "$450 million.": "Let me explain this to you, I can tell you're not very smart and didn't read my book, all time best-seller Art of the Deal, more popular than the Bible, you know? What we're doing right now is called "negotiating" and wait why did you make that gesture why is the man with the club coming over here yOU CAN'T DO THIS TO YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT!"
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Feb 28, 2024 20:01
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I'm actually impressed that Trump didn't just turn around and tell the court that, actually, THEY owe HIM money!
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Feb 28, 2024 20:01
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Randalor posted::trump:: "Listen, I can't do $450 million, but how does a cool $100 million sound? What do you say to that?" Yeah, I do feel like only the presence of the bailiff was stopping him from pulling the "say gently caress You and leave" bit
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Feb 28, 2024 20:02
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Lol he's broke and he broke the GOP doing it
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Feb 28, 2024 20:05
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Xiahou Dun posted:"But Your Honor, my client is suffering consequences for his actions!" Among the 1700+ pages are a bunch of news articles about the so-called trucker strike and at least like half a dozen instances of this pic
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Feb 28, 2024 20:07
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Tayter Swift posted:Among the 1700+ pages are a bunch of news articles about the so-called trucker strike and at least like half a dozen instances of this pic Well I know that'd have me shaking in my robes if I were a judge. A whole... 10 or 3 people. Can you imagine what kind of effect that would have on the economy of New York City? That's almost 3 people per borough!
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Feb 28, 2024 20:09
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Uglycat posted:Lol he's broke and he broke the GOP doing it I wish I was broke enough to have tens of millions of dollars cash on hand and several major commercial real estate properties.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:12
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Xiahou Dun posted:Well I know that'd have me shaking in my robes if I were a judge. A whole... 10 or 3 people. Can you imagine what kind of effect that would have on the economy of New York City? That's almost 3 people per borough! I can imagine the economic effects but maybe more on the 3 people refusing to accept their loads and not on the city of New York.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:14
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Well, 100 Million bond might be enough for the appeals court to accept. Its not like he can pick up his real estate and move it out of state, Trump Towers isn't going anywhere. The irreparable harm of selling real estate that he might not be able to get back once the appeals are over might be a convincing argument to the appeals court.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:19
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Cimber posted:Well, 100 Million bond might be enough for the appeals court to accept. Its not like he can pick up his real estate and move it out of state, Trump Towers isn't going anywhere. The irreparable harm of selling real estate that he might not be able to get back once the appeals are over might be a convincing argument to the appeals court. Why?
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Feb 28, 2024 20:20
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Please don't detonate your career to protest for trump I would be so owned
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Feb 28, 2024 20:22
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Xiahou Dun posted:Why? Because the appeals court might decide that the 100 million bond is enough for him to have 'skin in the game' and not cause him harm that can't be reversed once this is all done and played out.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:22
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Cimber posted:Because the appeals court might decide that the 100 million bond is enough for him to have 'skin in the game' and not cause him harm that can't be reversed once this is all done and played out. That sounds dumb as hell. Do you have a reason besides "idk, people do stupid poo poo"? I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but this doesn't sound like a good reason to not enforce a judgement.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:24
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I don't know why they would accept $100M when Trump has been very vocal that he is very rich, bigly rich, the most richester person. I wouldn't be surprised, but especially given how lovely he is they have no reason not to demand the full amount.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:24
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I mean overall I wouldn’t mind “doesn’t do irreversible harm to the defendant” being an appeal/bond consideration but it sure isn’t one right now. Edit: wouldn’t mind it being the rule for everyone I mean
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Feb 28, 2024 20:27
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I've had this in my back pocket for a little while now. I think now's finally a good time to post it. 
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Feb 28, 2024 20:29
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That was fast https://twitter.com/molcranenewman/status/1762917559714591091?t=ajMrJxn0K4OiZjGMey8wxw&s=19 This should be a quick denial I would think?
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Feb 28, 2024 20:30
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Zamujasa posted:I don't know why they would accept $100M when Trump has been very vocal that he is very rich, bigly rich, the most richester person. Has any court ever accepted a bond for less than the full amount of the judgement before?
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Feb 28, 2024 20:30
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I wish I was broke enough to have tens of millions of dollars cash on hand and several major commercial real estate properties. Cant help you there. Can I interest you in 91 state and federal counts instead?
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Feb 28, 2024 20:34
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cr0y posted:That was fast lol
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Feb 28, 2024 20:38
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Xiahou Dun posted:That sounds dumb as hell. Do you have a reason besides "idk, people do stupid poo poo"? He's not asking them to not enforce the judgement, he's asking for them to accept a bond that is less than the full judgement, but still substantial, while the appeal is ongoing. Which sounds fair-ish to me given that he doesn't have total control over his finances, so it's not like he can just toss a $20 on the judge's desk and then get busy on moving the rest of his money to the Caymans or something.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:53
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Jethro posted:He's not asking them to not enforce the judgement, he's asking for them to accept a bond that is less than the full judgement, but still substantial, while the appeal is ongoing. Which sounds fair-ish to me given that he doesn't have total control over his finances, so it's not like he can just toss a $20 on the judge's desk and then get busy on moving the rest of his money to the Caymans or something. Keep in mind one of the reasons this ruling even exists is the consistent and blatant lack of remorse or even acknowledgement of ANY wrongdoing on Trumps part. While there is a certain amount of logic to him paying less our brains want to accept, we also have to understand that given the opportunity Trump will attempt to pay as little as possible and tie this up for as long as he possibly can.
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Just for the record there's probably not a federal entity left that doesn't have a separately enclosed mailroom and procedures for these sorts of things- even if there are some inconsistent gaps in applying the associated policies.
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Discendo Vox posted:Just for the record there's probably not a federal agency left that doesn't have a separately enclosed mailroom and procedures for these sorts of things- even if there are some inconsistent gaps in applying the associated policies. I'd be wanting hazard pay if I have to open Engoron's mail every day
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Feb 28, 2024 21:42
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Very funny to try to negotiate with the courts over your bond amount. He should get exactly the same treatment any of us would, which is to say "Go talk to a bondsman." and when nobody will agree to give him this money, well, maybe don't do an entire lifetime of fraud and ripping people off and even more fraud.
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Feb 28, 2024 21:43
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He should just ask Jared for a quick loan since he's got all that Dubai money now.
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Feb 28, 2024 21:49
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Cimber posted:Well, 100 Million bond might be enough for the appeals court to accept. Its not like he can pick up his real estate and move it out of state, Trump Towers isn't going anywhere. The irreparable harm of selling real estate that he might not be able to get back once the appeals are over might be a convincing argument to the appeals court.
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unknown posted:He should just ask Jared for a quick loan since he's got all that Dubai money now. I know you're jesting but it's actually drat near impossible by any means to come up with half a billion in cash, legally or illegally, in 30 days. There is no route by which he could get the money, that won't be scrutinized and subject to regulation, and he can't sell a building in less than 30 days, it's just not possible.
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