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That is a real quote. That and the "power of math" scene are just so... representative of the show as a whole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt6lclzhJsw Strange New Worlds, spun off from this very season, doesn't come across nearly as poorly. Squiggle fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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Feb 28, 2024 20:10
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The writing is terrible on STD and that's the worst thing about it, true. But even if the writing was a lot better, like people keep saying about SNW, NuTrek is just a lot less enjoyable for fans of TNG era stuff. I think what Mike Stolklasa said about it really hit the nail on the head, at least for me, it's just for a different generation. Nearly all the characters are written to be relatable to zoomers. On TNG, everyone was a professional, they knew their poo poo, were good at their jobs and were there to get poo poo done. On STD, everyone is a neurotic, quippy 20 something who is constantly overwhelmed, completely out of their element and on the verge of an anxiety attack all the time. They're just as likely to have a good cry in the hallway with their found family while discussing their trauma as they are to actually show up to duty that day.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:20
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someone itt described SNW as the muppet babies version of start trek and it does feel at times like the captain and number one have adopted some adorable multicultural children and are showing them the universe this is not a negative critique and it’s surprisingly good
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Feb 28, 2024 20:22
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counterfeitsaint posted:The writing is terrible on STD and that's the worst thing about it, true. But even if the writing was a lot better, like people keep saying about SNW, NuTrek is just a lot less enjoyable for fans of TNG era stuff. I think what Mike Stolklasa said about it really hit the nail on the head, at least for me, it's just for a different generation. Nearly all the characters are written to be relatable to zoomers. On TNG, everyone was a professional, they knew their poo poo, were good at their jobs and were there to get poo poo done. On STD, everyone is a neurotic, quippy 20 something who is constantly overwhelmed, completely out of their element and on the verge of an anxiety attack all the time. They're just as likely to have a good cry in the hallway with their found family while discussing their trauma as they are to actually show up to duty that day. And whenever someone is momentarily competent at their job there’s a big upswell of inspirational music and they do their smug confident face like yayyyy they’re adulting!!!!
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Feb 28, 2024 20:24
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Big rear end On Fire posted:IMO if you got through Disco and thought this is decent then Picard may offer a similar experience even though it is a much different show. The one thing I'll give Picard is while the story sucks it is fun to see most of the old characters.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:24
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The "everyone is drowning in their jobs and constantly stressed" really can't be overstated. It's exhausting.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:27
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Squiggle posted:The "everyone is drowning in their jobs and constantly stressed" really can't be overstated. It's exhausting. Meanwhile Strange New Worlds is a veritable conga line of people being really great at their already super fun and awesome jobs, knowing they are great at what they do, and complimenting everyone else on what a great job they're doing all the time and helping them through the occasional episodic poo poo that crops up. It really is a Goofus and Gallant situation when you realize that Disco and SNW came from basically the same DNA. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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Feb 28, 2024 20:30
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"Hey! Something is happening!" vs "gently caress SOMETHING IS HAPPENING"
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Feb 28, 2024 20:30
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Squiggle posted:"Hey! Something is happening!" vs "gently caress SOMETHING IS HAPPENING" It doesn’t help that the crew of Discovery is dealing with galaxy-ending catastrophes every week, but that is of course another major fault with the writing of the show
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Feb 28, 2024 20:32
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Squiggle posted:The "everyone is drowning in their jobs and constantly stressed" really can't be overstated. It's exhausting.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:38
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nine-gear crow posted:Meanwhile Strange New Worlds is a veritable conga line of people being really great at their already super fun and awesome jobs, knowing they are great at what they do, and complimenting everyone else on what a great job they're doing all the time and helping them through the occasional episodic poo poo that crops up. It really is a Goofus and Gallant situation when you realize that Disco and SNW came from basically the same DNA. So what you are saying is that Star Trek: Titan focusing on what Riker has been up to by the same people that made Picard, sans executive producers, would be greatest TNG-era live action show if it ever got made. Math checks out, sounds legit.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:40
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nine-gear crow posted:Meanwhile Strange New Worlds is a veritable conga line of people being really great at their already super fun and awesome jobs, knowing they are great at what they do, and complimenting everyone else on what a great job they're doing all the time and helping them through the occasional episodic poo poo that crops up. It really is a Goofus and Gallant situation when you realize that Disco and SNW came from basically the same DNA. Yea, anyone comparing DISCO and SNW have missed quite a lot about those two shows As much as they are visually similar, they're polar opposites
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Feb 28, 2024 20:40
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Der Kyhe posted:So what you are saying is that Star Trek: Titan focusing on what Riker has been up to by the same people that made Picard, sans executive producers, would be greatest TNG-era live action show if it ever got made. Again, I am super down for a Seven of Nine/Jack Crusher/Enterprise-G show... done by anyone but Terry Matalas.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:45
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nine-gear crow posted:Again, I am super down for a Seven of Nine/Jack Crusher/Enterprise-G show... done by anyone but Terry Matalas. Absolutely not
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Feb 28, 2024 20:50
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i would be perfectly happy if no st property ever acknowledged the existence of jack crusher ever again.
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Feb 28, 2024 20:55
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"Starfleet command reopens investigation on Jack Crusher after series of misclassified witness testimonies and evidence concerning high treason are uncovered. Admiral (ret) Picard has not been reached for statement." and then he is maybe mentioned at some points in the future but never shown on screen again. We don't need nepobabies whose main lesson to learn is that for some individuals "daddy can make any mistake disappear". We get that from media enough without any scifi setting or writer involvement.
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Feb 28, 2024 21:00
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i would be perfectly happy if no st property ever acknowledged the existence of jack crusher ever again. my goal is to never watch picard and my hope to never see this character anywhere else yes
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Feb 28, 2024 21:04
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Discovery: Torture porn, terrible Klingons, everyone trauma all the time, intense feelings all the time, ham fisted inclusive messaging, sharing feelings all the time, stupid and nonsensical plots, very little in the way of a positive view of future society, insecure captain that pivots to something worse, 'let's fly *SMILE*, stupid ship design, wasted views of the far future. Edit: Squiggle posted:That is a real quote. Big Ass On Fire fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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Feb 28, 2024 21:07
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JediTalentAgent posted:I would argue the hurdles might be just being ALLOWED to hunt for dinosaur bones. this is actually what is posited in UK Le Guin's novel The Dispossessed, which is about a character from a communist moon of a capitalist planet - he flees the moon because while it's technically free, there's gatekeeping that goes on of the nature you've described that holds him back, and he's on the cusp of discovering what becomes the greatest invention in the Le Guin universe - the ansible, a device which allows communication to travel faster-than-light for instantaneous communication across space. He flees to the capitalist planet because he seeks the freedom to create this device, but ofc capitalist forces intervene in his work even more than before, in attempts to gain ownership over it, he gets pulled to and from in political maneuverings. Eventually he watches a protest full of people sympathetic to him and his cause get mowed horrifically down by what is basically an apache helicopter and realizes he's made a horrible, horrible mistake and flees back to his home moon, where he's no longer really welcome. But even in those circumstances, a reviled parish, he feels like its better than living under capitalism bc that was a true horror show. I like to think of it as a lesson in, once we get there it won't be perfect, but its way loving better than what we got. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Mar 2, 2024 |
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Feb 28, 2024 21:17
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All this talk about loving Klingon affection from early NuTrek reminded me of that episode of Picard with the cold open that starts with an extreme closeup of an eyeball, which is then slowly ripped out in graphic detail. Later we learn that was the borg kid Seven helped raise on Voyager. The procedure killed him. RIPSquiggle posted:That is a real quote. This is not an isolated incident. I went looking for a good youtube clip of the classic "YUM YUM" scene from STD. There's not a good one, but instead I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnlxugk3Qb0
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Feb 28, 2024 21:51
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counterfeitsaint posted:All this talk about loving Klingon affection from early NuTrek reminded me of that episode of Picard with the cold open that starts with an extreme closeup of an eyeball, which is then slowly ripped out in graphic detail. Later we learn that was the borg kid Seven helped raise on Voyager. The procedure killed him. RIP The actor is a Trumpist MAGA idiot so they wanted to make sure that character never, ever comes back. And was recast for that scene.
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Feb 28, 2024 21:57
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Der Kyhe posted:The actor is a Trumpist MAGA idiot so they wanted to make sure that character never, ever comes back. And was recast for that scene. I think the last sentence serves the same purpose as ripping out his character's eyeball and killing him, didn't really need to do that
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Feb 28, 2024 22:05
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davidspackage posted:I think the last sentence serves the same purpose as ripping out his character's eyeball and killing him, didn't really need to do that Well, yes. But the way I see it, it also serves as a warning to all those Gina Caranos who wish to remain with the IPR and maybe get a call sometime in the future. If Paramount somehow manages to not go belly up in the near future.
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Feb 28, 2024 22:09
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MAGA Voters PWNED by Barclay ball torture scene in latest episode of Star Trek Legacy!
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Feb 28, 2024 22:10
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counterfeitsaint posted:This is not an isolated incident. I went looking for a good youtube clip of the classic "YUM YUM" scene from STD. There's not a good one, but instead I found this: Wow this confused me at first because I thought this must be a bad SNL skit or something. I'm glad I stopped watching Disco!!!
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Feb 28, 2024 22:49
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Remember when Picard's brother and nephew died and he was sad that he was the last of his family line? Then a few years later Beverly gets knocked up but decides to hide the kid and give him her dead husband's name instead.
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Feb 28, 2024 22:56
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hosed-Up Little Dog posted:Wow this confused me at first because I thought this must be a bad SNL skit or something. I'm glad I stopped watching Disco!!! tbf it’s a webisode
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Feb 28, 2024 22:57
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Facebook Aunt posted:Remember when Picard's brother and nephew died and he was sad that he was the last of his family line? Then a few years later Beverly gets knocked up but decides to hide the kid and give him her dead husband's name instead. why would bev give a poo poo about the picard family line? it's an obsolete concept, anyway. if picard was so upset about not having any kids then he could have adopted one at any time.
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Feb 28, 2024 23:03
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Endless Trash posted:tbf it’s a webisode Ah that's a bit different yeah. Still sucks
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Feb 28, 2024 23:05
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Endless Trash posted:tbf it’s a webisode There's an argument to be made that that entire Short Treks episode is just a joke and it's not meant to be taken canonically. At the very least, the after-credits scene simply can't be taken seriously, or fit into in-universe continuity literally anywhere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUdNrtxoAIs
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Feb 28, 2024 23:34
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In any case it’s kinda funny to make a compare-and-contrast video between that and TNG at the top of its game
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Feb 28, 2024 23:42
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"We're pregnant...with flavour" has entirely redeemed all of NuTrek
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Feb 28, 2024 23:42
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Endless Trash posted:In any case it’s kinda funny to make a compare-and-contrast video between that and TNG at the top of its game It's a barkley episode, that's not even top shelf let alone top of it's game in TNG.
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Feb 28, 2024 23:47
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I still can't believe they had Picard say Lt. Broccoli in TNG.
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Feb 28, 2024 23:50
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But that's his name??
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Feb 28, 2024 23:51
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If we consider promotional webisodes as examples of NuTrek, then logically we should judge other series by the advertisements that promoted them. https://youtu.be/u7C1_po15hw?si=y2hGLTDiLKQfz385
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Feb 29, 2024 00:05
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CainFortea posted:It's a barkley episode, that's not even top shelf let alone top of it's game in TNG. Hollow Pursuits is a fantastic episode how dare you
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Feb 29, 2024 00:05
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nine-gear crow posted:Again, I am super down for a Seven of Nine/Jack Crusher/Enterprise-G show... done by anyone but Terry Matalas. Nah gently caress that, the Enterprise-G's a big pile of poo poo!
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Paramount/WB merger looks to be off the table. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/02/warner-bros-discovery-paramount-no-longer-considering-merger/ Ars Technica posted:Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) and Paramount Global are no longer considering a merger that would have put the Max and Paramount+ streaming services under one corporate umbrella. Per a CNBC report today citing anonymous “people familiar with the matter," WBD and Paramount had been mulling a merger for “several months."
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