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mdemone: Mar 14, 2001

also Waldron's book

# ? Feb 22, 2024 20:49

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# ? May 23, 2024 11:21

Human.Frank: Jun 2, 2022

mdemone posted:

yeah none of that is surprising or breaking news

He says some of the info is in his books and some of it isn't. Maybe you should listen to the interview instead of making so many posts against it since you're so familiar with the books.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 06:35

FlappyWord: Feb 24, 2024

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4355835/giuffre-v-maxwell/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

Jane Doe 107 has just dropped.

# ? Feb 24, 2024 16:37

Grapplejack: Nov 27, 2007

FlappyWord posted:

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4355835/giuffre-v-maxwell/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

Jane Doe 107 has just dropped.

They ruled in favor of both does, looks like, so they'll remain anonymized.

# ? Feb 24, 2024 19:00

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/OPCW/status/1760727877354414316?t=MQ6nxTNubW7oHEGBUoVtng&s=19

# ? Feb 25, 2024 01:39

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/OPCW/status/1760727877354414316?t=MQ6nxTNubW7oHEGBUoVtng&s=19

hasn�t OPCW always said that?

# ? Feb 25, 2024 03:13

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

Oglethorpe posted:

are there any games with JFK Reloaded style physics or was that consolidated to a single game

The Sniper Elite series is great, and shows slow-mo animations of the bullet hitting your target.

The protagonist of Sniper Elite v2 is an American trying to Operation Paperclip a German scientist, so you spend half the game fighting the Red Army. The other games are all about killing fascists.

# ? Feb 25, 2024 03:51

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

5 is pretty great, they finally made the enemy ai smart enough to be a threat

# ? Feb 25, 2024 03:56

uber_stoat: Jan 21, 2001; Pillbug

you can shoot Hitler in his one ball.

# ? Feb 25, 2024 04:35

Another Bill: Sep 27, 2018; Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

FYI Jeff Epstein is the topic on Coast to Coast AM tonight, specifically why more people haven't been charged

# ? Feb 25, 2024 07:12

Spergin Morlock: Aug 8, 2009

Another Bill posted:

FYI Jeff Epstein is the topic on Coast to Coast AM tonight, specifically why more people haven't been charged

it's more important that they continue to be blackmailed and controlled

# ? Feb 25, 2024 07:50

Dokapon Findom: Dec 5, 2022; They hated Futanari because His posts were shit.

The purpose of Epstein is what he did

# ? Feb 25, 2024 16:11

post hole digger: Mar 21, 2011

Dokapon Findom posted:

The purpose of Epstein is what he did

we get so caught up in blackmail and controlling the powerful, we've forgotten its supposed to be about the molesting.

# ? Feb 25, 2024 17:56

Oglethorpe: Aug 8, 2005

Chamale posted:

The Sniper Elite series is great, and shows slow-mo animations of the bullet hitting your target.

The protagonist of Sniper Elite v2 is an American trying to Operation Paperclip a German scientist, so you spend half the game fighting the Red Army. The other games are all about killing fascists.

i played some of that series but not enough bullet ricochet lines

# ? Feb 25, 2024 18:02

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

my bony fealty posted:

John Hinckley has a whole page for pics of his fatass cat

Aww

# ? Feb 25, 2024 20:23

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

Another Bill posted:

FYI Jeff Epstein is the topic on Coast to Coast AM tonight, specifically why more people haven't been charged

Speaking of Coast to Coast, this story absolutely rules:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geUx6P1rbNc

# ? Feb 26, 2024 01:21

Marenghi: Oct 16, 2008; Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

my bony fealty posted:

John Hinckley has a whole page for pics of his fatass cat

No one who hates Reagan and love cats could be bad.

# ? Feb 26, 2024 08:59

my bony fealty: Oct 1, 2008

Netflix Octopus guys are on TrueAnon, uh oh!

# ? Feb 26, 2024 17:46

Rooney McNibnug: Sep 2, 2008; "Life always hopes. When a definite object cannot be outlined, the indomitable spirit of hope still impels the living mass to move toward something--something that shall somehow be better."

my bony fealty posted:

Netflix Octopus guys are on TrueAnon, uh oh!

why "uh oh"?

# ? Feb 26, 2024 18:45

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/us/instagram-child-influencers.html

saw this super hosed up article posted in another thread.

# ? Feb 26, 2024 21:08

my bony fealty: Oct 1, 2008

Real hurthling! posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/us/instagram-child-influencers.html

saw this super hosed up article posted in another thread.

How do I read this without giving NYT money

# ? Feb 26, 2024 21:34

One More Fat Nerd: Apr 13, 2007; Mama’s Lil’ Louie; Nap Ghost

This answer is also my answer to the original tweet.

https://x.com/clapifyoulikeme/status/1762189397477269729?s=20

# ? Feb 26, 2024 21:42

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

my bony fealty posted:

How do I read this without giving NYT money

paste link into archive.is

# ? Feb 26, 2024 22:04

my bony fealty: Oct 1, 2008

Real hurthling! posted:

paste link into archive.is

cool thanks. sure is depressing that there's now a whole industry for moms to pimp their 9 year old daughters out on Instagram. who even needs Epstein anymore?

# ? Feb 26, 2024 22:12

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/counterfetts/status/1762875436667666938

quote:

december 25, 2023: the last time kate middleton was seen in public during the royal family�s annual christmas walk to church in sandringham

december 28, 2023: kate middleton is reportedly admitted to hospital

january 17, 2024: kensington palace announces that kate middleton has undergone a �planned abdominal surgery� and that she will remain in hospital for �10 to 14 days before returning home to continue her recovery� - although the official statement says that the surgery was planned, it also goes on to say that she has had to �postpone her upcoming engagements� which is odd because if the surgery was planned, why would she have engagements scheduled during the recovery period? the statement also says that she will not be undertaking public duties until after easter, which is march 31, which is just over 10 weeks after the surgery took place

also on january 17, 2024: buckingham palace announces that king charles as sought treatment for an enlarged prostate and he will be going to the hospital a week later for a �corrective procedure� - now it is WILD that these were announced on the same day, merely hours apart. it�s also noteworthy that while kate�s surgery was announced after the fact, charles� procedure was announced a week in advance.

january 18, 2024: one day after kate�s surgery was announced, prince william is seen visiting her in hospital

january 18: people magazine states that �william has shifted his schedule to support his wife� and �is expected to postpone engagements to be by kate�s side and support their family.� they have three children: george (10), charlotte (8), and louis (5)

january 21: sarah ferguson, the duchess of york and ex-wife of prince andrew (yes that one) is diagnosed with skin cancer after being treated for breast cancer in june 2023

january 26: king charles undergoes his procedure for an enlarged prostate in the same facility where kate middleton is recovering. people magazine states that �king charles also paid a visit to the princess of wales in the same hospital ahead of his own surgery�

january 27: camilla, charles� wife, visits him in hospital three times within 24 hours

january 29: kensington palace announces that kate has �returned home to windsor to continue her recovery from surgery� and that she is �making good progress�. there are no photos of her leaving the hospital.

january 29: king charles is discharged from the clinic and is photographed leaving with his wife

february 5: buckingham palace announces that king charles has been diagnosed with cancer and has �commenced a schedule of regular treatments� but says that he will still be undertaking �state business and official paperwork�; interesting to note is that this statements concludes with saying that charles chose to share his diagnosis �to prevent speculation�, which almost seems like a shot at the wales� secrecy surrounding kate�s health and the increasing rumours

february 7: william undertakes his first official engagement since kate�s release from hospital

february 7: prince harry flies from california to the uk to see his father after his cancer diagnosis announcement

february 8: prince harry leaves the uk after 24 hours to fly home to california after a 45 minute visit with his father

february 10: buckingham palace releases a statement thanking the public for their support following the king�s cancer diagnosis

february 18: prince william attends the bafta awards

february 21: kate�s sister, pippa, is seen in st bart�s with her husband and children, however the photos are not dated.

february 23: BP releases a video of the king reading get-well cards that were sent to him. it has now been 60 days since kate middleton was seen in public or photographed.

february 25: thomas kingston, husband of lady gabriella windsor (daughter of prince michael of kent, a first cousin of queen elizabeth) is found dead at age 45. police have said there are no suspicious circumstances surrounding his sudden death. kingston ran in the same circles as the royals and was even rumoured to have dated pippa middleton in 2011, around the time of william and kate�s wedding.

february 27: prince william pulls out of attending the funeral of the late king constantine of greece, his godfather, due to a �personal matter.� william was scheduled on the order of service to do a reading

the �royal source� who broke the news also said that kate middleton �continues to be doing well�, despite her not being seen or photographed in 64 days at this point. now at this point the general public has caught on to the fact that kate�s absence continues to be glaringly obvious. with her and king charles out of commission, and william largely MIA, royal duties have fallen to other members of the royal family

this is a problem bc a lot of those members are older. camilla (76), princess anne (73), prince edward (59) and duchess sophie (59) are undertaking the bulk of duties atm. since the queen�s death and harry and meghan�s retreat, the family has lost a lot of its brand�s star power

the wales� (will/kate) are also famously �work-shy�, while princess anne (charles�s sister) consistently undertakes the most yearly engagements despite being significantly older than the wales� (457 in 2023)

- charles (425 engagements in 2023)
- william (172)
- kate (128)

kate�s disappearances poses a major PR problem for an institution that has a long history of ill treatment of its female members who marry into the family

# ? Feb 29, 2024 15:24

Scarabrae: Oct 7, 2002

holy poo poo who gives a gently caress other than making fun of england for still having a monarchy

# ? Feb 29, 2024 18:11

Tricky D: Apr 1, 2005; I love um!

"who's kate?"

"kate's dead babe, kate's dead"

*drives off on motorcycle*

# ? Feb 29, 2024 18:25

Knitting Beetles: Feb 4, 2006; Fallen Rib

yeah but there's potentially a lot to make fun of here, even the hiding itself will get funny

# ? Feb 29, 2024 18:25

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

pretty obvious king charles killed her for her organs, hence the hospital stays lining up

# ? Feb 29, 2024 18:32

Tricky D: Apr 1, 2005; I love um!

Real hurthling! posted:

pretty obvious king charles killed her for her organs, hence the hospital stays lining up

He needed a liver and she was a closer march than his two "sons"

ruh roh

# ? Feb 29, 2024 18:37

Loucks: May 21, 2007; It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

my bony fealty posted:

cool thanks. sure is depressing that there's now a whole industry for moms to pimp their 9 year old daughters out on Instagram. who even needs Epstein anymore?

The same actors who funded and ran him. Do you imagine the abuse was the point? Or is this some meta joke I�m completely missing?

Also :lol:

at �this box represents a real photo of a kid in a swimsuit.� loving weirdos.

# ? Feb 29, 2024 18:45

Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

Loucks posted:

The same actors who funded and ran him. Do you imagine the abuse was the point? Or is this some meta joke I�m completely missing?

Also at �this box represents a real photo of a kid in a swimsuit.� loving weirdos.

the poster meant "who even needs Epstein" as in "perverts no longer need a procurer to find them children to groom as these parents are willingly posting their children to the internet for perverts to fawn over"

# ? Feb 29, 2024 19:38

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

maybe Putin played an incredible prank and they all ate from the same box of polonium chocolates

# ? Feb 29, 2024 21:50

Loucks: May 21, 2007; It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

the poster meant "who even needs Epstein" as in "perverts no longer need a procurer to find them children to groom as these parents are willingly posting their children to the internet for perverts to fawn over"

Look bud reading posts is already a huge ask. If I�m expected to understand them before replying this just isn�t gonna work.

But yeah, not wrong. Why are there so many hosed up people out there? 😒

# ? Feb 29, 2024 22:28

Mola Yam: Jun 18, 2004; Kali Ma Shakti de!

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/counterfetts/status/1762875436667666938

quote:

the family has lost a lot of its brand�s star power

# ? Feb 29, 2024 22:28

Mola Yam: Jun 18, 2004; Kali Ma Shakti de!

"royal watchers" who treat this poo poo like it's very Serious and Important have always been very funny

# ? Feb 29, 2024 22:30

pentyne: Nov 7, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/counterfetts/status/1762875436667666938

more importantly, how is this megan's fault?

# ? Feb 29, 2024 22:36

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

Loucks posted:

But yeah, not wrong. Why are there so many hosed up people out there? 😒

where else would hosed up people be, if not the internet?

# ? Feb 29, 2024 23:24

Ziggy Smalls: May 24, 2008; If pain's what you
want in a man,
Pain I can do

her BBL was botched and she has sepsis

# ? Mar 1, 2024 01:40

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# ? May 23, 2024 11:21

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

We walled some folx
C.I.A. Violently Cut Off 9/11 Suspect When He Tried to Talk About Attacks

www.nytimes.com - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 posted:

GUANT�NAMO BAY, Cuba � In his first month in U.S. custody, the man accused of planning the 9/11 attacks confessed to the crime during questioning and wanted to keep talking about it, according to the psychologist who interrogated him.

But the CIA wanted him to discuss al-Qaida�s future plans, not the attacks that had horrified America a year and a half earlier, said Dr. James Mitchell, the psychologist. So when the prisoner, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, mentioned 9/11, they would slam him, naked, into a wall.

It was March 2003. That month, interrogators would waterboard Mohammed 183 times at a secret overseas CIA prison in the mistaken belief, Mitchell said, that a nuclear attack in the United States was imminent. But Mohammed still was not saying what his captors wanted to hear.

�We walled him,� Mitchell said Monday, explaining that he and his colleagues had rammed their prisoner backward into a wall to punish him because they feared he was talking about 9/11 to distract them from another looming crime.

The idea that Mohammed was punished for talking about that topic in his first month of U.S. detention is new to the proceedings. Mitchell has been testifying in pretrial hearings in the death penalty cases at Guant�namo Bay since 2020 and never mentioned it before.

But it aligns with a prosecution argument that the CIA was not seeking confessions for a future trial when it brutally interrogated captives who were held incommunicado in the secret prisons, known as black sites, from 2002 until they were transferred to Guant�namo in 2006.

As Mitchell and the prosecutors tell it, the agency was seeking �actionable intelligence� that could be used for a military or agency mission � not a prosecution.

The government considers the distinction between interrogating to gather intelligence rather than to build a case to be important.

In 2007, Mohammed again bragged about his role in the attacks when he was brought before FBI agents at Guant�namo Bay, according to prosecutors. They want to use that confession � to �clean teams� that did not use or threaten violence � as key trial evidence.

It will be up to the military judge to decide whether the 2007 confession was voluntary. But the judge also must decide whether earlier statements obtained from Mohammed through torture informed the FBI interrogations, which could make the confession inadmissible.

Mitchell testified that Mohammed had been questioned up to three times a day almost daily for three years in the CIA prison network before his transfer to Guant�namo. The questions arrived in classified cables from CIA headquarters. But some questions originally came from FBI agents and analysts who were building an eventual case for prosecution, according to government documents and pretrial testimony.

Mitchell�s testimony also put a spotlight on the use of �walling� in the black sites.

If done right, he has said, it should not cause any permanent damage. The �enhanced interrogation technique� was designed for an Air Force program that trained American pilots to resist enemy interrogations. Then, a trainee faced a mock interrogator, who slammed his shoulder blades, not his head, into a wall made of plywood and burlap, to �disorient� him.

But CIA prisoners experienced it differently.

They have said their heads were slammed against concrete walls. Their lawyers blame walling for brain injuries that have been detected in some detainees.

Those being walled were seen as the enemy � terrorism suspects who were held naked, hooded and systematically deprived of sleep. They were being �conditioned,� in Mitchell�s wording, to give up al-Qaida secrets about sleeper cells, future plots and how to find Osama bin Laden.

In 2020, Mitchell testified that three interrogators took turns walling Mohammed so that they would not become tired and make a mistake. Mitchell wrote in his 2016 memoirs that he and his team used walling in combination with sleep deprivation as part of �a gradual conditioning process� after, in Mitchell�s assessment, waterboarding failed to elicit the desired response from Mohammed.

One of his interrogator partners, Dr. John Bruce Jessen, put a rolled-up towel that was held together with duct tape around the naked prisoner�s neck and pulled him forward. Mohammed refused to �help us stop operations inside the United States,� he wrote, so Jessen �bounces him off the walling wall several times.�

In 2022, Jessen testified in a different case that a towel was needed because the prisoner was at most wearing a diaper. There was no way to grab hold of him.

Mitchell has described the rolled-up towel as both �a safety collar� and a tool to condition prisoners. After the brutality ended, he said, an interrogator could bring just a towel to a debriefing session to remind a prisoner of �the hard times,� code in the black sites for brutal interrogations.

In time, Mitchell said, the prisoners were so cooperative that a towel was no longer needed.

In other accounts of the CIA�s reward and punishment system, interrogators sometimes gave a naked prisoner who cooperated a towel to cover his genitals during questioning.

Mitchell said that the walling and waterboarding ended a month into Mohammed�s detention but that he continued answering questions for his next 1,250 days in the black sites, where prisoners only had contact with CIA staff.

Prisoners deemed less cooperative got a �maintenance visit� from Mitchell or Jessen, who reminded them that displeasing Washington could result in more �enhanced interrogations,� although that never happened, he said. Instead, �amenities,� including mattresses, clothing and Qurans, could be given or taken away.

In time, Mitchell said, Mohammed�s conditioning to be afraid if he did not respond to questions diminished, and he answered questions to keep amenities or get new ones.

Despite Mitchell�s testimony about institutional disinterest, somebody in the black sites captured what Mohammed had said about the 9/11 attacks. This week, Mohammed�s defense lawyers showed the judge CIA cables from March 2003 with information about the plot that was attributed to Mohammed and that had been circulated in the intelligence community, including to the FBI.

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