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surgeons are usually co owners of their practice. what would walking off the job do besides delay surgeries I’m not trying to be smart I just don’t understand
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Mar 1, 2024 17:29
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euphronius posted:surgeons are usually co owners of their practice. what would walking off the job do besides delay surgeries Most surgeons (and most physicians) are individuals in large consolidated providers now https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34961617/ quote:Results: From 2012 to 2020, practicing general surgeons increased from 20,044 to 20,637 (+3%). Unique general surgery practices declined from 8178 to 6489 (-21%). The percentage of surgeons in practices of 1 or 2 declined from 19% to 12%, while surgeons in groups of 500 or more grew from 20% to 31%.
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Mar 1, 2024 17:31
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Just have the doctor pay for treatment of anyone that can't afford it. How many people could that be? 1 or 2 a year?
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Mar 1, 2024 17:32
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Mr Hootington posted:Now the ISM readings are painting a more dire ppicture. All of manufacturing is in contraction except inflation according to their report Nothing like a steady stream of misses to start the month off. Cuts soon imo
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Mar 1, 2024 17:33
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having any material possessions at all that you haven't given to people with less than you? Yep, that's a landlordin'
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Mar 1, 2024 17:33
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Most surgeons (and most physicians) are individuals in large consolidated providers now without reading the article your quoted but doesn’t mean much to me
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Mar 1, 2024 17:34
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euphronius posted:without reading the article your quoted but doesn’t mean much to me The scenario you mentioned, "surgeons owning their own practices", ain't a thing anymore. They're all corporate employees now.
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Mar 1, 2024 17:35
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you quote doesn’t support that conclusion and I can’t read the article so 
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Mar 1, 2024 17:36
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If the number of surgeons in practices of 1-2 practitioners is down to 12% while the number of surgeons in practices of 500+ is up to 31%, what's your takeaway there
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Mar 1, 2024 17:38
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that you don’t know what your talking about
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Mar 1, 2024 17:38
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"I've formed a practice with 500 other surgeons, we're all co-owners and definitely not employees of a conglomerate" - America's Smartest Lawyer
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Mar 1, 2024 17:40
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The number one cost driver for healthcare in the United States is hospital / provider consolidation, which lets providers like KP or UPMC charge whatever they want, because gently caress you, where else are you going? The days of a physician being a self-employed professional who shows up, does his thing, and has his office staff send a bill are long over, these people are corporate employees like anyone else and their compensation is not directly reflected in what the healthcare conglomerate bills for his services. He's powerless to affect any of that. I think part of the problem here is that my argument is "surgeons don't deserve your sympathy or emotional labor for their bad feels" and your argument is "why can't surgeons do something about the system they're a part of" and I just figured out where the mismatch is You think posting on Twitter is doing something about a problem Go outside please
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Mar 1, 2024 17:46
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What kind of surgery does he do
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Mar 1, 2024 17:47
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:
When did I say that? The mismatch is that most surgeons are not individual practitioners who determine the conditions under which they practice. They are corporate employees of KP, UPMC, or other large consolidated providers and have no more say over their working conditions than an accountant at KPMG does.
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Mar 1, 2024 17:48
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thread needs surgery to remove stick from rear end
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Mar 1, 2024 17:48
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🤔 https://twitter.com/LiveSquawk/status/1763606682251178237?t=JTXi6aPw6NsQQyjWbiAwsw&s=19 https://twitter.com/Newsquawk/status/1763606686932021720?t=ZHNtPmp3DIMaagBEQUMhKg&s=19 1 month left
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Mar 1, 2024 17:49
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tbh the surgeon co-ownership / partnership thing is becoming a bit of a red herring anyway because even surgeons in traditional small practices who would be making bank are getting besieged in that model by the hospital networks and integrated healthcare systems that have snapped up control of all their referring physicians and ORs. they're still extremely well compensated at the moment but the writing's on the wall at this point. they're either going to accept buy-outs or be cast out onto the tundra.
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Mar 1, 2024 17:49
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1763582031517175864?t=sNzzU7nhh9xN5T3CVmeIqA&s=19 Ghoulsbee
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Mar 1, 2024 17:55
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This thread needs surgery to remove all the cancerous posts about some nobody on Twitter.
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Mar 1, 2024 17:55
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selec posted:thread needs surgery to remove stick from rear end "One in a million shot, Doc!"
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Mar 1, 2024 17:57
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euphronius posted:gop governors are usually better for state employees . at least that has been the trend They were for PSP but not for DEP or anyone else.
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Mar 1, 2024 18:00
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selec posted:thread needs surgery to remove stick from rear end I am a tree surgeon and can do this for a good price but I'm gonna warn you any stump grinding is going to cost ya.
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Mar 1, 2024 18:00
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I don't see a problem with someone working within a lovely system being publicly mad about having to work within the lovely system, even if it doesn't fix anything. I think it's good that people are aware that some orthopedic surgeons also think it sucks rear end
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Mar 1, 2024 18:26
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triple sulk posted:https://www.scribd.com/document/709742948/Musk-vs-OpenAI god he's so loving dumb
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Mar 1, 2024 18:36
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Thuryl posted:insurers would have to pay out more claims if doctors did that so their contracts with doctors heavily restrict them from doing it, you might be able to do it once or twice but if you make a habit of it no insurer is going to pay out claims for you any more Ah, yes, haven't had a hellworld reminder in a bit. loving hell.
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Mar 1, 2024 18:47
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Gold and nasdaq have hit intraday all time highs
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Mar 1, 2024 18:54
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euphronius posted:surgeons are usually co owners of their practice. Getting less and less common over time as senior physicians sell out their practices to private equity.
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Mar 1, 2024 18:57
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Vox Nihili posted:Getting less and less common over time as senior physicians sell out their practices to private equity. all the private veterinaries here are also selling out to giant private equity conglomerates the past few years en masse and of course service et al gets vastly worse too
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Mar 1, 2024 18:59
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My friend had to put off a hysterectomy for like 4 years because of funding and surgeons deciding to not do the surgery because of risk and also raising the price. The mass they pulled out eventually was larger than a persons fist. I actually tried to get in on the GameStop thing a little bit in the hopes of being able to get her the surgery 
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Mar 1, 2024 19:00
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If we lived in a functioning society we would have a free, safe "AmericaOS" with all of the NSA backdoors built right in.
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Mar 1, 2024 19:21
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Nanomashoes posted:If we lived in a functioning society we would have a free, safe "AmericaOS" with all of the NSA backdoors built right in. it’s called windows, OP
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Mar 1, 2024 19:22
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Mr Hootington posted:Gold and nasdaq have hit intraday all time highs Working hard, thank you!
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Mar 1, 2024 19:35
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Vox Nihili posted:loving hate it here 
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Mar 1, 2024 19:43
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sorry but he has insurance and made a rational market decision about the costs and benefits of that surgery, ACA working as intended and please stop helping republicans
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Mar 1, 2024 19:55
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I had assumed doctors would not so willingly put themselves in situations where their ethical obligations to their patients was compromised by their employment agreements but I guess my opinion of medical ethics is too high I apologize to fentanyl cloud
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Mar 1, 2024 19:57
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euphronius posted:I had assumed doctors would not so willingly put themselves in situations where their ethical obligations to their patients was compromised by their employment agreements but I guess my opinion of medical ethics is too high [url]https://www.beckersasc.com/asc-news/upmc-surgeon-to-pay-8-5m-for-allegedly-performing-multiple-complex-surgeries-at-once.html/url] quote:The lawsuit alleges that Dr. Luketich was allowed to schedule and perform multiple complex surgeries at once, forcing him to move between operating rooms, and even hospitals, while procedures were ongoing.
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Mar 1, 2024 20:01
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:I think part of the problem here is that my argument is "surgeons don't deserve your sympathy or emotional labor for their bad feels" lol hope you don't need surgery ever
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Mar 1, 2024 20:02
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:[url]https://www.beckersasc.com/asc-news/upmc-surgeon-to-pay-8-5m-for-allegedly-performing-multiple-complex-surgeries-at-once.html/url] This poor surgeon, a victim of the healthcare administrator he worked for, powerless to stop himself or the machine he was a gear in 
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Mar 1, 2024 20:04
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i think it's good for workers stuck in a lovely system to have solidarity with one another, even if they make different amounts o fmoney but i'm just sick and twisted like that
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Mar 1, 2024 20:04
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:This poor surgeon, a victim of the healthcare administrator he worked for, powerless to stop himself or the machine he was a gear in lol
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