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Blue Footed Booby posted:It's a quote from Men in Black. well K was wrong. also the consequences of the 2nd movie and us being in a giant locker universe has interesting implications.
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Zwabu posted:https://www.al.com/news/2024/02/alabama-republican-urges-fertility-clinics-to-reopen-uab-says-its-not-so-simple.html I have yet to hear a single mention of a family putting the blame on these clinics, has that been reported anywhere?
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Shooting Blanks posted:I have yet to hear a single mention of a family putting the blame on these clinics, has that been reported anywhere? I believe the defendant in the wrongful death suit that led to the Alabama Supreme Court ruling was the IVF clinic or practice, not the person who destroyed the embryos. Edit: https://alabamareflector.com/briefs/second-wrongful-death-of-a-minor-suit-filed-over-frozen-embryo-destruction-after-ivf-ruling/ quote:A new lawsuit seeking damages for the destruction of frozen embryos was filed against a Mobile fertility clinic on Thursday. Zwabu fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Mar 2, 2024 |
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Looks like the article has a typo but the meaning is clear.
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# ? Mar 2, 2024 04:30 |
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I'm sure that couple are not trying to exploit this for personal gain.
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# ? Mar 2, 2024 04:50 |
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Shooting Blanks posted:I have yet to hear a single mention of a family putting the blame on these clinics, has that been reported anywhere? i think the fear - and the reason why clinics are shutting down - is not that someone has, but that someone could. IVF is not always successful; implantation can fail. and IVF isn't cheap! what is stopping someone from trying to get some or all of that money back by lodging a wrongful death lawsuit after a failed implantation?
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As a practical matter no high salary professional is going to tolerate any risk of incarceration at all. Pinky swears don't cut it. Neither would a law because why build a business if the political culture might destroy it next election cycle? Nobody wants to live in Alabama anyway. Move to blue territory and you can build a business without any fear.
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lobster shirt posted:i think the fear - and the reason why clinics are shutting down - is not that someone has, but that someone could. IVF is not always successful; implantation can fail. and IVF isn't cheap! what is stopping someone from trying to get some or all of that money back by lodging a wrongful death lawsuit after a failed implantation? Read the quote I posted just above your post. The article states that it is the IVF clinic that is in fact being sued for wrongful death damages. (In this case for the accidental destruction of embryos by one of the clinic patients.) So it is already happening.
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Shooting Blanks posted:I have yet to hear a single mention of a family putting the blame on these clinics, has that been reported anywhere? I believe the poster was referring to the Alabama GOP placing the blame on the IVF clinics for shutting down, rather than their legislation and court rulings that prompted them to do so
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:As a practical matter no high salary professional is going to tolerate any risk of incarceration at all. Pinky swears don't cut it. Neither would a law because why build a business if the political culture might destroy it next election cycle? Nobody wants to live in Alabama anyway. Move to blue territory and you can build a business without any fear. This. Doctors aren't loving stupid and they don't make knee jerk reactions, right now they are weighing their options as to whether or not they want to uproot their lives because this poo poo isn't going to end anytime soon in their home state and if it's not IVF it's going to be something else. I truly deeply respect doctors that are trying to fight this out in these red states but I totally understand the ones that are just cutting bait and running because they never signed up for this poo poo.
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cr0y posted:Doctors aren't loving stupid and they don't make knee jerk reactions I appreciate your argument here but you may not be familiar with the financial practices of doctors.
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What blows my mind is that you're going to have tons of people directly negatively impacted by this poo poo, such that they may never get to have kids. The window of opportunity for IVF to work can be vanishingly small for numerous reasons, which means there's already been a huge disruption for couples already in the middle of the process. And these victims, despite being directly, overtly, and in some cases irreparably hosed over by this poo poo, are still largely going to go to the polls in Nov and actively support the politicians that promised to do this to them and in fact did.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:What blows my mind is that you're going to have tons of people directly negatively impacted by this poo poo, such that they may never get to have kids. The window of opportunity for IVF to work can be vanishingly small for numerous reasons, which means there's already been a huge disruption for couples already in the middle of the process. And these victims, despite being directly, overtly, and in some cases irreparably hosed over by this poo poo, are still largely going to go to the polls in Nov and actively support the politicians that promised to do this to them and in fact did.
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Cimber posted:I'm sure that couple are not trying to exploit this for personal gain. Without knowing more detail it’s not really fair to assume they have some crappy motive. These may be people who’ve been told they can’t get any more eggs to make more embryos, who’ve suddenly been told that 3/x of their remaining chances to have children are suddenly gone due to negligence.
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Shooting Blanks posted:I have yet to hear a single mention of a family putting the blame on these clinics, has that been reported anywhere? No, but the Republicans desperately need someone besides themselves to blame. Rather than "Republicans accidentally made IVF illegal", they prefer a narrative more along the lines of "fertility clinics got suckered by fake news and unnecessarily shut down their IVF services even though we told them IVF wasn't actually banned".
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In a somewhat confusing development, Biden announces, while reading from notecards, that the United States is exploring the option of opening up a marine corridor to provide assistance to Ukraine in response to Israel's massacre of over 100 civilians:The Independent posted:Biden twice mixes up Gaza with Ukraine in aid announcement New NYTimes/Siena poll also just dropped: NYTimes posted:Voters Doubt Biden’s Leadership and Favor Trump, Times/Siena Poll Finds
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“The New York Times/Siena College poll of 980 registered voters nationwide was conducted on cellular and landline telephones, using live interviewers, from Feb. 25 to 28, 2024.“ Kinda surprised the sample size was so small for a national survey. Feels like the cross tabs start to have really high error bars at that point.
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smackfu posted:“The New York Times/Siena College poll of 980 registered voters nationwide was conducted on cellular and landline telephones, using live interviewers, from Feb. 25 to 28, 2024.“ How large is the average nationwide political survey? For some reason I thought they were almost all 1,000-1,500 people, which puts this just below the low end of that range.
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Yeah it’s probably just the ones that want to get state level numbers that are bigger. Like the one they did in November. “The New York Times/Siena College polls of 3,662 registered voters in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were conducted in English and Spanish on cellular and landline telephones from Oct. 22 to Nov. 3, 2023.”
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conducted on cellular and landline telephones I'm not trying to defend Biden's honor here, but I really can't take any poll regardless of sample size like that seriously. There is a big rear end skew in the demographic of "people who will not only pick up but earnestly answer unknown numbers"
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Why the gently caress are we discussing polls when we know they’re meaningless? We still aren’t to the point where polls have ever been predictive, not even getting into the quality of polls and how representative they are with modern election results. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Because B B Kramers into the thread to post "here's why Biden is doomed" with no context, he does this weekly and we have to take him in good faith because reasons
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To be fair, NY Times just blasted out that poll as a news alert, which is why I read it because I’m a sucker.
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smackfu posted:“The New York Times/Siena College poll of 980 registered voters nationwide was conducted on cellular and landline telephones, using live interviewers, from Feb. 25 to 28, 2024.“ No, we're simply seeing the largest racial party realignment in history as black and hispanic americans are deserting the Democratic party in droves, and the only place it ever appears are in polling xtabs I'm gonna take the under on a quarter of black voters voting Republican/Trump e: also 1k is fine for a survey size sample but it's pretty clear they aren't polling minority voters accurately. Or they are and this is hell. zoux fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Mar 2, 2024 |
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The contrast of our support for what Israel is doing with an election year and (barring old-itis) having to elect Trump or Biden feels pretty hellish... but can't compare with what it must be like in Gaza.
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BRJurgis posted:The contrast of our support for what Israel is doing with an election year and (barring old-itis) having to elect Trump or Biden feels pretty hellish... but can't compare with what it must be like in Gaza. I also like to respond to people who are complaining about something troubling going on in their world with a reminder that someone else has it worse. Lost their job? I gotta remind them people are homeless right now. Worried about discrimination? I like to bring up Burma and Rakhine to give some perspective. For some reason people just seem to stop talking to me after I do it though.
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Kagrenak posted:I also like to respond to people who are complaining about something troubling going on in their world with a reminder that someone else has it worse. Lost their job? I gotta remind them people are homeless right now. Worried about discrimination? I like to bring up Burma and Rakhine to give some perspective. It was less glib and more commiserating, as leftism has not in fact removed me from the consequences of elections and world events (though I think my eyes may have just rolled off our material plane). And from here (or wherever my eyes have journeyed) hell seems pretty well represented these days. Perhaps "things could be worse" is the greatest trick the devil ever played, but worse for who?
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zoux posted:No, we're simply seeing the largest racial party realignment in history as black and hispanic americans are deserting the Democratic party in droves, and the only place it ever appears are in polling xtabs Where did you find that image? Is it part of a larger article?
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Obviously black voters now identify with Trump as someone who got hosed by the courts, just as he predicted
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From the "Too drat late, not like it would have made a difference anyways" files: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1763727207954821374
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small butter posted:Where did you find that image? Is it part of a larger article? Nah just a tweet thread https://twitter.com/admcrlsn/status/1763898010230980615
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# ? Mar 2, 2024 19:47 |
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There's also the part where the poll shows Trump tied with Biden among women voters, a group he lost by 15 points in 2020. But hey, maybe women just suddenly love Trump now, post-Dobbs and post-being found liable for sexual assault.
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DaveWoo posted:There's also the part where the poll shows Trump tied with Biden among women voters, a group he lost by 15 points in 2020. Don't you understand? Its because after the Dobbs ruling woman have universally come to accept and understand that God has appointed their husbands as their rightful rulers and they will vote the way their husbands tell them.
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the only people who care about polls sooner than three months out from the election are:
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Great piece in the Washington Post today describing how, before getting into antivaxx, RFK Jr. parasitized and basically Musk'd an environmental group. How RFK Jr. hiring a bird smuggler threw his environmental group into turmoil quote:Kennedy’s detractors often divide his career into two phases: a laudable period as a workhorse of the environmental movement and a swerve into the conspiracist worldview that defines his independent bid for the White House.
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Kith posted:the only people who care about polls sooner than three months out from the election are: Telling people it's mentally unhealthy to care about polls when Donald Trump runs a perfectly good chance of winning a second term isn't responsible. There is no healthy option in this political climate. Trump represents a tangible danger for people
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Fart Amplifier posted:Telling people it's mentally unhealthy to care about polls when Donald Trump runs a perfectly good chance of winning a second term isn't responsible. Sure, but if the polls don't actually give you information on this one way or the other then reading them has no upside to balance out the mental health cost You may as well ask ChatGPT who'll win the election and get upset when it says Trump
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Daily show recently ran a piece on RFK too, saying a bunch of the same things.
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Fart Amplifier posted:Telling people it's mentally unhealthy to care about polls when Donald Trump runs a perfectly good chance of winning a second term isn't responsible. what does reading a poll do to change this e: what does reading a poll primarily answered by people with landlines do to change this
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I spent several days this week annoyed and frustrated by my inability to remember the name of the lead singer from No Doubt, and refusing to look it up until my brain decided to remember it, and about two days later it decided to allow access to the variable "Gwen Stefani" again. I'm 37. Anyway, that's my only contribution to the "Biden commits malapropisms" discourse.
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