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Flikken posted:Then imagine seeing the fighters there when you take off. Yea, I know people get salty when WW2 productions act like America won the war on its own, but in a way, it kinda did, if you want to say its industrial might was the main force that won the war. The soviets got nearly to that point but you couldn't match the US, mostly due to their factories could operate without worrying about being bombed like nearly everyone else. Getting stuff to Europe was the issue, but even then by '44 it wasn't really that hard due to the advancements in sonar and the convoy system being perfected. Yea, a Tiger was worth 10 Shermans, but there were going to be like 30 shermans for every Tiger so whos going to win that battle? Ditto with the luftwaffe aircraft, nearly impossible for the Germans to replace their losses as fast as the allies could shoot them down. The Destroy the Luftwaffe mission was insanely effective before DDay, so a lot of late war bombings were unopposed beyond ground based AA. Slaves in factories in old mines and caves wasn't going to be as effective as a proper factory. I was curious why Spain was the destination for the escaped airmen, because while Spain was neutral, but Franco didn't like the allies very much.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, I know people get salty when WW2 productions act like America won the war on its own, but in a way, it kinda did, if you want to say its industrial might was the main force that won the war. The soviets got nearly to that point but you couldn't match the US, mostly due to their factories could operate without worrying about being bombed like nearly everyone else. Getting stuff to Europe was the issue, but even then by '44 it wasn't really that hard due to the advancements in sonar and the convoy system being perfected. because Spain had Consulates and if they made it to them they could get to Gibraltar.
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Stegosnaurlax posted:because Spain had Consulates and if they made it to them they could get to Gibraltar. Oh yea that makes sense. FlamingLiberal posted:The CGI at the end of the episode where it follows the bombs down into Berlin looked extremely poor It looked like they used War Thunder to do the cgi in that scene. War thunder with like a 4000 series card, but WT still.
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Difference is I can usually tell what's going on when I play War Thunder. It's been seven episodes, I think we'll just have to accept that the CGI in this show is generally rear end and is going to age it worse than anything else.
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twistedmentat posted:Oh yea that makes sense. They could also aim for Portugal because it was neutral and still was friendly with the allies (and nazis), but that was probably a poo poo load harder
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, I know people get salty when WW2 productions act like America won the war on its own, but in a way, it kinda did, if you want to say its industrial might was the main force that won the war. The soviets got nearly to that point but you couldn't match the US, mostly due to their factories could operate without worrying about being bombed like nearly everyone else. Getting stuff to Europe was the issue, but even then by '44 it wasn't really that hard due to the advancements in sonar and the convoy system being perfected. No, in no way it "kinda did." By the time the bulk of the lend lease started reaching the soviet union, the Siberian divisions were already pushing back around moscow and the 6th army had already been encircled in stalingrad. The soviet factories east of the urals were just as unreachable for the germans as the American factories. This isn't to diminish lend lease. The soviets were only able to move as fast as they did because of it. But the soviets were beating the germans regardless. By 1942 the soviets were outproducing germany 5 to 1 in tanks in spgs. And the problem for the luftwaffe wasn't planes. It was pilots and fuels. Less than 1/4 of the me-262 delivered to the luftwaffe ever saw combat because of lack of pilots and fuel.
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joepinetree posted:No, in no way it "kinda did." And they prefered their wind up, thimble full of grease, backward spinning, ugly, start in the cold vehicles and planes anyway
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Episode was a bit of a letdown after the previous two seemed to be the show hitting its stride, but I did like that the Americans didn't get shoehorned into the "Great Escape" and were caught as completely off-guard by it as the Germans were. Count me in as one of those disappointed that the earlier storyline about the guys landing in Belgium and being smuggled out gets resolved with them just cheerily biking in to say goodbye to everybody. Rosie's still the most interesting guy in the show and I'm glad (and sad!) that he decided to stick around after getting his 25 flights done.
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Stegosnaurlax posted:And they prefered their wind up, thimble full of grease, backward spinning, ugly, start in the cold vehicles and planes anyway Yeah, aside from one exception that I remember. The Soviets did like the Willys jeeps.
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What is the lightbulb system? It's totally gone over my head.
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VagueRant posted:What is the lightbulb system? It's totally gone over my head. You still need an electrical current to make a radio work.
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The Soviets loved certain US planes as well
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Arc Hammer posted:You still need an electrical current to make a radio work.
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VagueRant posted:Oh I meant the light that switches on at the UK base and what it actually means, not the prison camp wiring. Mission time, get ready
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VagueRant posted:Oh I meant the light that switches on at the UK base and what it actually means, not the prison camp wiring. I think the red light means there is a briefing about the next mission.
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Are all of those stars on the front end for all of the retreating Russian planes that he shot down?
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Stegosnaurlax posted:37mm is a hard drug to quit The P-63 was really useful in Russian service. It had great performance under 10,000 feet, was a good ground attack plane, and could compete with the best fighters the Germans had. The US needed high-altitude bomber escorts and lots of them, adding a third type that couldn't do that was an unnecessary logistical complication. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpx2pcdmVIA
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a dingus posted:Are all of those stars on the front end for all of the retreating Russian planes that he shot down? "Comrade, turn around, the fight is that way" "Comrade, I am returning from my mission" "Return to the front immediately, comrade. Retreating is treason against mother Russia."
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mllaneza posted:The P-63 was really useful in Russian service. It had great performance under 10,000 feet, was a good ground attack plane, and could compete with the best fighters the Germans had. The US needed high-altitude bomber escorts and lots of them, adding a third type that couldn't do that was an unnecessary logistical complication. Everything i can find says they didn't get the p-63 until may of 1945, right as the war ended, and by the time they pivoted to the Japanese they only had a couple of dozen. With thousands sat in Alaska waiting to be delivered.
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They had plenty of P-39s though.
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"Take it or leave it" -Churchill
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A P-400 in the Pacific is dead on arrival because it's just a P-40 with a Zero behind it.
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Arc Hammer posted:A P-400 in the Pacific is dead on arrival because it's just a P-40 with a Zero behind it. Let's not go saying anything about the P-40 we can't take back.
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Stegosnaurlax posted:Let's not go saying anything about the P-40 we can't take back. Wish I could say I coined that one but no, pilots who flew the P400 in the pacific really, really hated it. I have nothing bad to say about the Warhawk though, that plane is gorgeous.
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George H.W. oval office posted:I don’t think that’s how you have sex Weirdest sex scene ever plus cat soup? this show is pissing me off.
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mcmagic posted:Weirdest sex scene ever plus cat soup? this show is pissing me off. Yeah, Pvt. Janovec knew how to properly lay some pipe.
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It's just strange they're going to half rear end a james bond story line, and also half assing a resistance storyline, and then half assing a prison storyline. It feels like it would have been better focusing on less people but more thoroughly?
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And yet there really aren't that many characters which makes it strange. Outside of Rosenthal, Buck, Egan, Crosby and Barry Keoghan's character I can't really name anyone. They're all so interchangeable you'd think it was part of the point that you don't know the replacement crews at all. Except that BoB did the same thing with Replacements and I can name almost all of them off the top of my head.
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Mental Hospitality posted:I haven't been terribly impressed by any of the CGI in this series. I don't hold that against the show though, I really like the show. But I'm sure this stuff involves insanely complex models and trying to incorporate the physics of it all, with particulate effects like smoke and fire, and it must be a real challenge. Still, every time there are planes in the air my brain keeps blasting me with "look at the cgi planes!". The part that fucks with me is that I question whether the physical cameramen and the digital compositors were using matching depth of field/focal length/lens measurements for the same shots that each were teamed up on, because sometimes I'll see a CGI B-17 that looks stretched along its X-axis away from the camera in a weird way, like maybe the physical shot was using a 55mm lens and the compositor rendered the plane into the scene with the equivalent of a 30mm lens and just hamfisted the plane into the scene as good as he could, if that makes sense.
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Arc Hammer posted:And yet there really aren't that many characters which makes it strange. Outside of Rosenthal, Buck, Egan, Crosby and Barry Keoghan's character I can't really name anyone. They're all so interchangeable you'd think it was part of the point that you don't know the replacement crews at all. Except that BoB did the same thing with Replacements and I can name almost all of them off the top of my head. I can name Buck and Bucky, and there is the mustache guy with the sick flying skills who looks like Bucky, and the guy who is in England. But I think BoB and Pacific had the same problems but for different reasons, those two shows had so many characters, and they were constantly covered in grime that at the end I could recognize only 4-5 of them.
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Stegosnaurlax posted:Everything i can find says they didn't get the p-63 until may of 1945, right as the war ended, and by the time they pivoted to the Japanese they only had a couple of dozen. With thousands sat in Alaska waiting to be delivered. I've checked as well, thanks for the prompt, and it's super messy. It looks like some P-39 squadrons may have gotten the P-63 relatively early, but there's not a lot of solid documentation. I suppose this is just a teachable moment that fan-made IL-2 dynamic campaign generators might not be reputable sources after all.
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mllaneza posted:I've checked as well, thanks for the prompt, and it's super messy. It looks like some P-39 squadrons may have gotten the P-63 relatively early, but there's not a lot of solid documentation. Yeah, Russians records are a disaster. So much of it is still stuck behind a steel door getting eaten by silverfish. We know for sure they were tested in Alaska by Russians in early 44, but they had issues the Russians wanted fixing, oil cooler problems and something to do with the tail section being reinforced. Which was all done in Alaska, but that was just the first batch of a few hundred. The Airforce Research Institure in Russia had them for months before they went anywhere, probably testing and training instructors. Some air defence squadrons had them towards late 44, i think near moscow. I believe they were trying to replace p-39 pilots with them, but who knows how many squadrons got a full set. They for sure were pumping them out to outfit the Russians in the east, for the push into Japan and the russians were keeping them on that side of the country. It'd probably be eaiser to track down the kill scores of pilots flying them, then the squadron delivery records By the time the Russians had enough to put up a big pumpkin throwing party, the Germans were in full retreat and they had the MiGs, Yaks and La-7 killing everything that wasn't a German ace, and they were easier to replace and repair. Stegosnaurlax fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Mar 4, 2024 |
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Eau de MacGowan posted:the pacific had the huge advantage of rami malek being one of the main characters Malek hadn't really hit it big yet. Mr. Robot was still a ways off. His biggest claim to fame before then had been playing the Pharaoh in the Night at the Museum movies.
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Eau de MacGowan posted:the pacific had the huge advantage of rami malek being one of the main characters You mean along with actual Jon Bernthal?
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