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Data Graham posted:Never heard of him before this, no. Honestly same but from what I've seen he's hardcore this silly 20/7. Katie Killjoy is voiced by him because one of his own skits is him in drag playing a deranged new anchor.
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Data Graham posted:Never heard of him before this, no. Him and the lady who play with Stella. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcEKOwRHg9U
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Mar 1, 2024 12:05
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Lmao holy poo poo
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Now this suits my ADHD-rear end attention span.
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Data Graham posted:Lmao holy poo poo yeah, you can definetly see where alot of blitz humor. helluva boss writing comes from. i mean alot of people love to say its viv and thats clearly partly true. but yeah, lol he isnt PC but holy gently caress is it genuinly funny. as a disabled person, i love the "commically disabled son". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGSo4RJiTus cross over. "dog dicks are fast". Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Mar 1, 2024 |
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Mar 1, 2024 13:46
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I always knew Blitz was really a Muppet. New headcanon from the comments; that's what demons look look from the human perspective.
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The Last Call posted:Hell copies Earth and how humans live. It might be a lovely copy at times, but they appear to desire some sort of stability and growth rather than being a savage kill a thon wild anything goes existance. We see in the first episode there's an official mail service. Not surprising really, in the 10,000 years that the show's version of hell has been around, there must have been a lot of humans bringing human ideas to mold every part of hell. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Mar 1, 2024 |
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Also suddenly makes so much sense that Blitz was able to pass himself off as 'Brendan Ragers'.
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It's safe to say that Helluva Boss "voice" is strongly attributed to Brandon. Once you see his old stuff, everythinking makes so much more sense.
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Also a lot of Blitzo is basically Brandon playing himself He wasn’t part of the writing staff on Hazbin as I understand it and the difference in style is clearly visible (though Viv is no stranger to crass humor herself) Larryb fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Mar 1, 2024 |
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Yeah, Helluva Boss is kinda his baby in a lot of regards. It's why the series tone and pace are different.
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The difference in writing between the two shows was one of the first things I wanted to post about, yeah. Hazbin is real sharp and all, but it's not so absolutely wild and disorienting as HB, not so determined to keep you off-balance.
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Data Graham posted:The difference in writing between the two shows was one of the first things I wanted to post about, yeah. Hazbin is real sharp and all, but it's not so absolutely wild and disorienting as HB, not so determined to keep you off-balance. hazbin is also a "proper" tv show too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2qMLLck6JY
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For what it's worth around the recent conversation, I found out where the Velvette is the same age as Vox and Valentino stuff comes from, it's the now abandoned/removed Instagram Accounts that were set up for Vox/Velvette/Valentino during the period between the pilot and the Prime Show. This means it is probably no longer canon, especially because it uses her pilot design (one of the few actually super heavily changed designs). Here's the relevant archived images anyway.  Notably it still includes the "Two awful men in a relationship and their daughter" feeling/callout. Although as another detail, Valentino being abusive to Vox (physically) appears to have been dropped from the full show too, or at least for now it has. It might show up when Angel gets further out of Valentino's control and Valentino freaks out harder over it.
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Velvette's pilot design is so incongruous with her concept as the TikTok Fashion Overlord that I can only imagine that the design came before anyone had an idea of what her character was.
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Funky Valentine posted:Velvette's pilot design is so incongruous with her concept as the TikTok Fashion Overlord that I can only imagine that the design came before anyone had an idea of what her character was. From what I've seen her initial design and personality was something along the lines of a hyperactive gothic lolita who dabbled in potion making. I think they thought her behavior was a little too close to Niffty so they cut back on the childish demeanor and leaned harder into a professional business woman whose bread and butter is in social media. The love potion project from her and Val is probably a reference to her earlier design.
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There is so much stuff out there that people made up themselves it can be hard to get legit information. Even information from Viv has changed over the years. The only real information you can truly go by is what has been confirmed since the making of season one and what has occurred during it. Everything else is dubious at best. It can be annoying as people will try to fan cannon their desires into being, info on the wiki itself can be wrong. It has been wrong. And some will keep trying to put in what they want to be true. That makes speculation the name of the game. The current popular belief is that Vox and Val are more FWB, Vel based on how her reactions might be similar to fangirls who enjoys seeing two guys making out. Her OG design was definitely a modern Japanese gothic Lolita that loves social media. In episode two the dress is the one she chooses when she’s changing designs on that one woman. It’s a nice call back.
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The Last Call posted:There is so much stuff out there that people made up themselves it can be hard to get legit information. Even information from Viv has changed over the years. The only real information you can truly go by is what has been confirmed since the making of season one and what has occurred during it. Everything else is dubious at best. It can be annoying as people will try to fan cannon their desires into being, info on the wiki itself can be wrong. It has been wrong. And some will keep trying to put in what they want to be true. Lots of little hints to her original design honestly. What I'm more interested in is if the toxicity shown in Val and Vox's instagram relationship is going to carry over and be noticed. The reason i'm iffy on that is Valentino is wildly abusive towards him and Vox literally just keeps taking it. That's not the sort of personality he has in series and i'm not sure how that would carry over. I'm talking face smashed in barely able to get through the day sort of stuff when Vox seems a lot more in control of Val here and can talk circles around him without even trying.
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Flopsy posted:Lots of little hints to her original design honestly. What I'm more interested in is if the toxicity shown in Val and Vox's instagram relationship is going to carry over and be noticed. The reason i'm iffy on that is Valentino is wildly abusive towards him and Vox literally just keeps taking it. That's not the sort of personality he has in series and i'm not sure how that would carry over. I'm talking face smashed in barely able to get through the day sort of stuff when Vox seems a lot more in control of Val here and can talk circles around him without even trying. In show Vox comes off as tolerating Val more as a means to an end. If Val tries anything Vox looks like he's ready to put Val in his place, Val definitely reconizes Vox is usually the voice of reason between the three outside of matters like Alastor. If a fallout happened between the three I can see Vel siding with Vox as long as they keep whatever power structure Val brings to the table, if anything they might be keeping Val around as a potential sacrificial lamb should the need arise. Need to placate someone who wants them? Give them Val. With the next season having them the baddies, if things get bad enough I could see the Vee's reduced to a single one, if not one holding most of the power. In this case I'd bet on Velvet.
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Flopsy posted:Lots of little hints to her original design honestly. What I'm more interested in is if the toxicity shown in Val and Vox's instagram relationship is going to carry over and be noticed. The reason i'm iffy on that is Valentino is wildly abusive towards him and Vox literally just keeps taking it. That's not the sort of personality he has in series and i'm not sure how that would carry over. I'm talking face smashed in barely able to get through the day sort of stuff when Vox seems a lot more in control of Val here and can talk circles around him without even trying. They could no-prize this if they wanted to with Vox being generally good at managing Valentino and Valentino generally understanding that Vox is good for his finances and power, but Valentino still having some really bad days and really severe outbursts that Vox can't get a lid on and finds himself subject to when he tries. This would also fit with that slight Valentino aimed at Vox about Alastor almost beating him. The implication being Vox needed someone to step in and save his rear end last time.
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I got the opposite vibe, Val seems able to talk Vox down easily from his Alastor related tantrums, and for all of Vox's vaunted media manipulation Val is effortlessly better at personal manipulation.
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Adder Moray posted:They could no-prize this if they wanted to with Vox being generally good at managing Valentino and Valentino generally understanding that Vox is good for his finances and power, but Valentino still having some really bad days and really severe outbursts that Vox can't get a lid on and finds himself subject to when he tries. This would also fit with that slight Valentino aimed at Vox about Alastor almost beating him. The implication being Vox needed someone to step in and save his rear end last time. I'm of the opinion that for all that Velvette is the backbone of the Vees and most visibly stable, and Vox their frontman and tech manager, Valentino is the most "raw power" of the three. He brings actual demonic strength to the table the others just don't have in terms of like, combat magic powers. It explains why Valentino is overconfident enough to think he can beat Charlie in a fight if he generally doesn't feel threatened in violent altercations even with other overlords. He's certainly one of if not the tallest characters in the show outside Miss Zizzi and Sera specifically. His ability to physically threaten Angel Dust is real, even if his capability for abuse is rooted in his soul contract. He also probably has the lion's share of employees and soul contracts between the three. Given he's got the widest employment pool. Velvette needs good looking models, capable fashion designers and successful social media influencers. Vox needs people skilled in tech development, camerawork and general tv show production work. Valentino can hire anyone, because anyone can do sex work or be desperate enough for cheap/bit part porn or street working, and if they can't they can still do drug trafficking, selling of goods, manual labour. Basically Vox and Velvette might theoretically be a lot more secure without Valentino loving up the way he does, but I think they'd be more directly vulnerable without the 10+ foot tall violent Moth Demon to menace and moth smoke drug anyone who tried to stab them directly.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I'm of the opinion that for all that Velvette is the backbone of the Vees and most visibly stable, and Vox their frontman and tech manager, Valentino is the most "raw power" of the three. He brings actual demonic strength to the table the others just don't have in terms of like, combat magic powers. It explains why Valentino is overconfident enough to think he can beat Charlie in a fight if he generally doesn't feel threatened in violent altercations even with other overlords. I suspect Val wanted to have a go at Charlie initially for the same reasons Angel had no idea who Alastor was. He's not that interested in politics and relies on Vox keeping him on the up and up. He probably genuinely didn't consider Charlie could wipe the floor with him until Vox hammered it into his head later that was a very VERY bad idea. Quite frankly while I do think he's packing the most raw power he's also unequivocally the dumbest of the three. Throw in his violent temper and the guy is prone to making terrible decisions on the reg. He's dumb muscle essentially and without someone guiding the leash he's just as likely to try and throw hands with Lucifer himself with predictable results.
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My vibe is in short, Val can manipulate individuals, Vox can manipulate the masses, and Vel acts as the group's face to other Overlords because she's in between, and has her ego most in check. (Relatively)
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I feel like we just haven't seen the extent of Vox's powers yet. I have a feeling he's way more powerful than we've seen ability wise, it's just he's only really been compared to Alastorso far. He probably has some kind of powerful electricity powers or something. On top of the literal mind control
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Flopsy posted:I suspect Val wanted to have a go at Charlie initially for the same reasons Angel had no idea who Alastor was. He's not that interested in politics and relies on Vox keeping him on the up and up. He probably genuinely didn't consider Charlie could wipe the floor with him until Vox hammered it into his head later that was a very VERY bad idea. Quite frankly while I do think he's packing the most raw power he's also unequivocally the dumbest of the three. Throw in his violent temper and the guy is prone to making terrible decisions on the reg. He's dumb muscle essentially and without someone guiding the leash he's just as likely to try and throw hands with Lucifer himself with predictable results. someone took that moth's eyebrow, so Val has bit off more than he can chew before
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Vampire Panties posted:someone took that moth's eyebrow, so Val has bit off more than he can chew before Val's other antenna can be seen in a vase on the dresser in the background, so I imagine Vox ripped it out in a fit of rage
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Macaluso posted:I feel like we just haven't seen the extent of Vox's powers yet. I have a feeling he's way more powerful than we've seen ability wise, it's just he's only really been compared to Alastorso far. He probably has some kind of powerful electricity powers or something. On top of the literal mind control Well when he's angry he shorts out the entire Pentagram City power grid at least. I still think Valentino is the direct combat muscle of the three, but Vox can still be powerful too.
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All the other bosses manage their own poo poo and stay in their lanes. But the Vs are effectively the bosses of the "culture" of hell. Technology, media, fashion, social media - that's a huge amount of influence over every demon in hell. Only thing missing is music, which is a bit ironic given the nature of the show.
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https://i.imgur.com/Jbqq5FJ.mp4 the millie plush was finished. probably ships next week.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:All the other bosses manage their own poo poo and stay in their lanes. But the Vs are effectively the bosses of the "culture" of hell. I think music was/is Lilith's thing, so even while she's absent, nobody probably wants to risk trying to encroach on her turf. Could also be that its generally seen as something linked to the Morningstars so trying to take control of that seems risky to most, even if Lucifer is a depressed dad, Charlie is Charlie and Lilith is missing.
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Next season I expect the Vee's to use their media empire to do news attacks against Charlie, the hotel etc. in a bid to turn Hell against them. But didn't they save hell from the exterminators I hear you ask? Yes, but since when does truth matter? Especially in Hell. And what can be more devestating than using certain truths along with some exaggerations or lies to attack your enemy? Immediately after Charlie visits the angels, it gets announced the exterminations are happening half a year earlier. One of the people at the hotel is an angel! The angel was an exterminator meaning she killed untold amounts of them! She's dating Charlie! Was this an inside job?! Is Charlie working with Heaven? Is it all a trick. Totally can see the Vee's going down this road and turning the public against them. Think Fox News, but in Hell. With all the drones they got recording everything they can show various things and more to make them look even worse. Vox will likely know Alastor and Charlie made a deal due to the green glow shining from her room thanks to the huge rear end window. He'll probably be terrified of what it might be. Vee will dominate social media doing the attacks. Val might use his physical forces to cause disturbances or protest near the hotel twenty four seven. Didya know Vox has changed how he looked?  Old school TV style! The Last Call fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Mar 3, 2024 |
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I get the feeling that all three of them think they're the backbone of the Vees, and the other two are entertaining and occasionally useful sidekicks. But they really are three legs of a tripod, and the collapse of one means disaster for all of them.
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The Last Call posted:Next season I expect the Vee's to use their media empire to do news attacks against Charlie, the hotel etc. in a bid to turn Hell against them. Or Charlie gets blamed for a bunch of demons trying to do the whole heroic sacrifice thing but not actually understanding what it meant for Sir Pentious to do that. Like a suicide booth in Futurama except one of the options is doing this to some random demon.
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Remember that currently, no one in Hell knows anything about Pentious ascending, and it remains to be seen if Heaven lets them find out. Maybe it's the first thing in season 2, but still. What tack the Vees take is an open question, though I wouldn't be surprised if it was focused more on undermining Alastor than anything. Remember, he's the one Vox actually has the hateboner for, and one of Hell's most feared Overlords who just showed back up, the specific threat to their power. Undermining Charlie isn't hard when they can just give the credit for fighting back to the hotel staff and residents and being bailed out by daddy. (And to be fair they wouldn't be entirely wrong) But she's a goof no one takes seriously anyway. Alastor though is both the one who legitimately ate poo poo during the invasion and had his credibility most hurt- after all, the Hotel is supposed to be under his protection, and it got all but levelled. (And also bailed out by Hell's best dad, lol)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Remember that currently, no one in Hell knows anything about Pentious ascending, and it remains to be seen if Heaven lets them find out. Maybe it's the first thing in season 2, but still. There's also footage of Adam cutting him down and him running away while being poo poo talked. That's on video and that literally throws blood in shark infested waters. Also no telling if Alastor is anywhere near recovered. He got that wound less than 24 hours ago and his microphone--which was a part of his body--was destroyed. Chances are he's in a pretty bad way but trying to hide it.
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Pyrotoad posted:Or Charlie gets blamed for a bunch of demons trying to do the whole heroic sacrifice thing but not actually understanding what it meant for Sir Pentious to do that. Like a suicide booth in Futurama except one of the options is doing this to some random demon. Charlie can be blamed for anything they feel like, but clearly, if a soul is redeemed it gets in, no matter what. Pentious was taking part in an armed rebellion against heaven at the moment of his death, and that still wasn't enough to stop him from being redeemed by the (apparently) automatic system that yeets worthy souls to Paradise.
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Flopsy posted:There's also footage of Adam cutting him down and him running away while being poo poo talked. That's on video and that literally throws blood in shark infested waters. Also no telling if Alastor is anywhere near recovered. He got that wound less than 24 hours ago and his microphone--which was a part of his body--was destroyed. Chances are he's in a pretty bad way but trying to hide it. That's my thought. If he's alright already that weakens the impact of him getting hurt. If he nearly died it should take time to recover. Know how Frodo in LOTR was always bothered where he got stabbed by the ring wraths sword after he healed? Make it like that. Here's a question or two we're also not really asking. Would most of hell give a poo poo if redemption was possible? Would they even want it? And would the powers that exist do everything they can to sabotage for fear of it upsetting the natural order.
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The Last Call posted:That's my thought. Honestly I'm most interested in how they're going to address that. Husk being as observant as he is, is probably going to be the first to notice and the most wigged out by it. If your sadistic boss feels backed into a corner all the time now chances are he's going to take it out on somebody. Also I'm sure the lower level sinners would be very interested in escaping their station, the overlords however not so much. Flopsy fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Mar 4, 2024 |
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